Xbox One Not Backwards Compatible
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I think end of the day, this is a very usable console. If we get our hands on it, we'll use it no issue to get stuff done easily. I'm still watching though so final opinion isn't in yet.
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They said it won't require an always online connection.Fractral said:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-doesnt-require-internet-connection
The used game thing is still a little sketchy in the details, they said there will be mandatory installs and that installing a disc to another console will have a fee attached, but they said they have something planned for the used game market, though there are no details as of yet.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-may-have-mandatory-game-installs
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I'm rolling my eyes a bit at the people screaming bloody murder at no backwards compatibility, just keep your old consoles, it would be one thing if this was suddenly out of the blue but no backwards comparability isn't a new thing. Hell Xbox to 360 had a limited system of backwards compatibility and even then that was broken.
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I'm rolling my eyes a bit at the people screaming bloody murder at no backwards compatibility, just keep your old consoles, it would be one thing if this was suddenly out of the blue but no backwards comparability isn't a new thing. Hell Xbox to 360 had a limited system of backwards compatibility and even then that was broken.
More and more I expect I'll end up with just PC games and possibly a WiiU. We'll see what the PS4 pulls.. but I"m not impressed with what any system is offering right now. The captcha is 'geez louise'... I'm not quite there yet, though. It's still a possible purchase, but not until there are many (read: probably 4-5 minimum) games for the system that I couldn't get on another platform.
That seems reasonable. To be honest, I'm not really bothered about the used game thing because I'm used to it from my time PC gaming. I do hope they add an easy to use Digital Download system though, with a HDD big enough to actually store the games. The back compatibility is my main worry because I can't really afford to shell out for a new console if/when my current one breaks again.Rednog said:
By different core architecture they could also be referencing in vague terms that the disk reader will no longer be HD-DVD format for obvious reasons. In which case, an emulator wouldn't matter where disks are concerned because they're the wrong format.
I didn't count on there being a processor level difference. I'm not sure why there would be if the setup is non-proprietary like the ps4 has moved to. Perhaps the 360's processor was more proprietary than I thought? I really can't see it being all that different programming-wise unless they took a step in the wrong direction. Fortunately the 360 should be much more easy to emulate than the ps3 is and isn't too unreasonable an idea. Unless microsoft just wants to make people repurchase their store.
I didn't count on there being a processor level difference. I'm not sure why there would be if the setup is non-proprietary like the ps4 has moved to. Perhaps the 360's processor was more proprietary than I thought? I really can't see it being all that different programming-wise unless they took a step in the wrong direction. Fortunately the 360 should be much more easy to emulate than the ps3 is and isn't too unreasonable an idea. Unless microsoft just wants to make people repurchase their store.
It's using a Blu Ray drive, but Blu Ray drives can read DVDs. It's down to the processors being different.Lightknight said:
Then keep your 360...Trishbot said:
I don't see what all the complaining is about!? If you have 360 games you love then keep your 360 and plug it in when you want to play. It doesn't take long to switch a few cables around and bingo. Sorted.
Windows is just software, there would still need to be a xenon CPU (which is PowerPC architecture, not x86).tehroc said:
Microsoft: Hey you know those guys who buy all our stuff and make or break our console and are the reason we have money and jobs? Yeah, fuck those guys!
Really? You know, I wasn't really planning on buying either of the new consoles anyway, and definitely not immediately, but this makes it even less likely. I just bought the updated 360 not that long ago, why the hell would I buy another new one?
There are just so many bad decisions going into this new wave of consoles. I have no idea what they're thinking.
There are just so many bad decisions going into this new wave of consoles. I have no idea what they're thinking.
I think the real shocking thing here is that it isn't backwards compatible with VHS tapes. It looks like it should play them afterall.
And so far there doesn't seem to be any reason to buy one in the first place, so backwards compatability is a non-issue. Stick with the 360 which is just barely still a games console.
And so far there doesn't seem to be any reason to buy one in the first place, so backwards compatability is a non-issue. Stick with the 360 which is just barely still a games console.
With all of the lack of backwards compatibility, I'm glad that the WiiU has it at least. There's only so much space under a TV some people have for consoles and so many cords that can be plugged into a TV at one time. I think the lack of BC will hurt the ease of access consoles have.
I only hope the WiiU virtual console will get some gamecube games on there instead of re-releasing the games on Wii's virtual console. If the WiiU can play games from every generation prior to it, that should give it some respect it needs right now.
I only hope the WiiU virtual console will get some gamecube games on there instead of re-releasing the games on Wii's virtual console. If the WiiU can play games from every generation prior to it, that should give it some respect it needs right now.
Unpopular opinion incoming:
1. Backwards compatibility is not an issue for me. I owned many different generations of consoles and only PS2, PS3 (to an extent) and 360 were backwards compatible. So I am used to not being able to play previous libraries on the nex-gen systems.
2. I hardly ever buy used, so this isn't a big deal for me either. I prefer new items, plus I know how to clearance shop.
3. I never buy a system on launch, I wait for about 6-12 months and see what has changed and what has been fixed.
In closing I care only about the future of the system itself not the past titles I own and have played the shit out of already. And I tend to keep my old systems so if I wanted to play games on them I could.
If they could come up with a way of improving graphics on older games in backwards compatibility I'd be more inclined to rage about the lack of the feature. But it don't work that way.
1. Backwards compatibility is not an issue for me. I owned many different generations of consoles and only PS2, PS3 (to an extent) and 360 were backwards compatible. So I am used to not being able to play previous libraries on the nex-gen systems.
2. I hardly ever buy used, so this isn't a big deal for me either. I prefer new items, plus I know how to clearance shop.
3. I never buy a system on launch, I wait for about 6-12 months and see what has changed and what has been fixed.
In closing I care only about the future of the system itself not the past titles I own and have played the shit out of already. And I tend to keep my old systems so if I wanted to play games on them I could.
If they could come up with a way of improving graphics on older games in backwards compatibility I'd be more inclined to rage about the lack of the feature. But it don't work that way.
Agreed. Its seems like people want their games to have some kind of immortality and I don't think that will ever be possible. The Wii was backwards compatible because it used the same parts as the gamecube except the gpu was over clocked. Backwards compatibility is easy when your stuff is almost the same shit. That said, I doubt I'll ever lose access to my games. I'll just keep my old consoles. Plus, there will always be re-releases and pc emulationMidniqht said:
If you told me 2 years ago that the big screen controller console WiiU would have been the most promising console of the next generation I would never have believed you. But with Sony and Microsoft fucking up their consoles this badly what with no Backward combatibility, Apps everywhere, and very little actual games being pushed. I am more inclined to make the WiiU the only console I get of the next Generation.