Xbox One Not Backwards Compatible

[wizzy555]

And in come Sony defense force...

I'm not sure how familiar everyone is with internal computing hardware, but I don't see how anyone could have really expected *either* of the new consoles to be backwards compatible. Hardware is a fickle, complicated mistress, and this is why PC is plagued with problems simply because of users having different GPUs, different processors, etc.

It's ridiculously complicated and expensive to get hardware to be compatible with older models and software.

Agreed. Its seems like people want their games to have some kind of immortality and I don't think that will ever be possible. The Wii was backwards compatible because it used the same parts as the gamecube except the gpu was over clocked. Backwards compatibility is easy when your stuff is almost the same shit. That said, I doubt I'll ever lose access to my games. I'll just keep my old consoles. Plus, there will always be re-releases and pc emulation

Assuming the next console will be x64 then backwards compatibility will be easier next time (for xbox and playstation).

 

[TKretts3]

This is why I like computers. The games you played on a computer 10 years ago, you can still play on computers today. The games you're playing on computers today, you'll be able to play 10 years, or 20 years from now.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Why do people care about BC? Look, only one console had it PS2. 360/PS3 had a half arsed version for a year or so and stopped and thats it.

 

[Adultism]

Whelp, that settles it. I will not be purchasing the Xboner upon its release, from what I'm hearing its going to be a horrid, money grubbing machine.

 

[Lightknight]

By different core architecture they could also be referencing in vague terms that the disk reader will no longer be HD-DVD format for obvious reasons. In which case, an emulator wouldn't matter where disks are concerned because they're the wrong format.

It's using a Blu Ray drive, but Blu Ray drives can read DVDs. It's down to the processors being different.

Can they read HD-DVD's? I seem to remember blu ray players being unable to read HD-DVDs or vice versa and the 360 bet heavily (and lost) on the HD-DVD format.

 

[duchaked]

I'm actually okay with this considering how little I ended up using it in the past

 

[PoolCleaningRobot]

And in come Sony defense force...

I'm not sure how familiar everyone is with internal computing hardware, but I don't see how anyone could have really expected *either* of the new consoles to be backwards compatible. Hardware is a fickle, complicated mistress, and this is why PC is plagued with problems simply because of users having different GPUs, different processors, etc.

It's ridiculously complicated and expensive to get hardware to be compatible with older models and software.

Agreed. Its seems like people want their games to have some kind of immortality and I don't think that will ever be possible. The Wii was backwards compatible because it used the same parts as the gamecube except the gpu was over clocked. Backwards compatibility is easy when your stuff is almost the same shit. That said, I doubt I'll ever lose access to my games. I'll just keep my old consoles. Plus, there will always be re-releases and pc emulation

Assuming the next console will be x64 then backwards compatibility will be easier next time (for xbox and playstation).

This is true too. They basically had to make this switch so it would be easier to make games now and make backwards compatibly a possibility in the future (they basically messed up this gen). But the playstation 5 and Xbone 2 are a long ways off so who knows what we'll have by then. I'm not yet willing ever to invest in a 100% backwards compatible future

 

[The Wooster]

By different core architecture they could also be referencing in vague terms that the disk reader will no longer be HD-DVD format for obvious reasons. In which case, an emulator wouldn't matter where disks are concerned because they're the wrong format.

It's using a Blu Ray drive, but Blu Ray drives can read DVDs. It's down to the processors being different.

Can they read HD-DVD's? I seem to remember blu ray players being unable to read HD-DVDs or vice versa and the 360 bet heavily (and lost) on the HD-DVD format.

Er. The 360 runs on regular, old-fashioned DVDs, mate. The HD-DVD stuff was purely a (short lived) add on.

 

[Elijah Newton]

Thank you for coining Xbone. May the name go down in history before the console goes down in flames.

 

[PoolCleaningRobot]

This is why I like computers. The games you played on a computer 10 years ago, you can still play on computers today. The games you're playing on computers today, you'll be able to play 10 years, or 20 years from now.

False. I got the Legacy Cain collection on Steam from a friend and the original games (that came out for the ps1) did not work on my Windows 7 machine. Apparently it was because I was using 64 bit instead of 32 bit

 

[Lightknight]

Er. The 360 runs on regular, old-fashioned DVDs, mate. The HD-DVD stuff was purely a (short lived) add on.

Hmm, I stand corrected! Thanks for the response. Thanks for the article too.

 

[Charli]

Hehehe, Xbone. Yes, and let it be known throughout the land as such. I would get more angry but at this point I'm just at the 'haha I'm so glad I'm not a console user, part of the ordeal'.

Tis a damn shame, they had so many chances to hook me, and blew nearly every single opportunity.

 

[Lightknight]

Hehehe, Xbone. Yes, and let it be known throughout the land as such. I would get more angry but at this point I'm just at the 'haha I'm so glad I'm not a console user, part of the ordeal'.

Tis a damn shame, they had so many chances to hook me, and blew nearly every single opportunity.

Xbone is certainly better than calling it Xbox one. Am I the only person who has been calling the original Xbox "Xbox 1" to prevent any sort of confusion with what is frequently called the Xbox 360?

I'll add that you stand to benefit from consoles doing well even if you're a pc gamer.

 

[Madmanonfire]

Why do people care about BC? Look, only one console had it PS2. 360/PS3 had a half arsed version for a year or so and stopped and thats it.

I'm just gonna assume you forgot that Nintendo, the Wii, and the WiiU exist. If we're counting handhelds, then most of their handhelds as well.

 

[Frezzato]

I missed the presentation, so I'm wondering if they're going to re-release 360 games for Xbone via digital download.

So let me ask you guys:

If you bought digital content for 360 and transfer your Live account to a new Xbox One, do you think your 360 purchases should transfer to the new box? What about movies and other stuff? Sorry, I don't know if they covered that.

In addition, do you think you should be able to enjoy said digital content on your "old" 360 as well?

I guess I don't care about what Microsoft might have said, I want to know what you guys think is fair.

 

[Daaaah Whoosh]

The worst part about this, in my view, is the next year or so of game releases. Some will be for the last generation, some for the next, some for both. Assuming the multiplayer will only connect the same consoles, that means there will be split audiences, and some people will have to buy the same game twice. I think I'll stay out of that mess until the Xbone drops its price tag.

 

[Maxtro]

XBone is appropriate for this failure. Putting aside the jump in Sony's stock from the awful, awful conference... used game shenanigans and no ability to play my 34 xbox discs, to? Fuck that. I was right all along, this next gen is going to be the most incompetent. The wiiU now actually stands a chance... and it really, really shouldn't.

LOL. It's up to $22 now.

Kinda wish I bought more than 8 shares back when it was $15.

On topic: I wish the Xbone was BC, it would have increased my odds of buying it since I didn't have a 360.

 

[Mr. Q]

Shame on you, Xbone! You make bunny sad!

 

[Lightknight]

XBone is appropriate for this failure. Putting aside the jump in Sony's stock from the awful, awful conference... used game shenanigans and no ability to play my 34 xbox discs, to? Fuck that. I was right all along, this next gen is going to be the most incompetent. The wiiU now actually stands a chance... and it really, really shouldn't.

May I ask you how often you spend time playing old games? I've always kept my old systems and my old games in pretty good condition but I'll say I haven't pulled out an old console for some time now and am wondering if I've just been slowly building a video game shrine/museum for decades now. Maybe it's just me but I methodically play games the first time through and generally to as near 100% completion as I want to get.

Don't get me wrong, I almost cried the day FF Tactics (The Lion Wars, not that advanced crap) came out on the PSP. But I never considered cracking my old PS1 out an playing the original game even though I still have both. I'm always too preoccupied with newer games and the recent backlog of games I'm still catching up on. There's too much in the now and near future to spend too much time looking back.

Backwards compatibility is a nice feature. But it's never been that useful for me. If you and people like you genuinely have a different method of replaying games than I do, then ok. But I don't see many people who can afford the new systems and yet still spend their time playing old games with any regularity.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

At this point all I can really say is big deal. When it comes to backwards compatibility, people complain but it was never a universal feature in gaming. Its a "here and there" feature. Sometimes its there, sometimes its not, but its never really been a major factor when it comes to buying a console to me. Its always been one of those nitpicky gaming things. Just keep the old console and bust it out when you really want to enjoy some older games. It's not that complex or time consuming to switch some cables around.