He wont get anything, mainly because of how outlandish that number is... may as well go into a bank and ask for One Trillion Dollars!!! mua ha ha ha ha. Atleast that will have the same success rate
Xbox Owner Sues Microsoft for $500 Billion (Yes, Billion)
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His case is actually sorta air tight. I think the guy is a total douchebag and should really stop making an ass of himself, but it isn't like you can say he is in error.
Go for 1 million, not everything the company owns.
Go for 1 million, not everything the company owns.
It's an interesing attempt to bring light to monstrosity known as EULAs, but:
[Morbo]LAW DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY![/Morbo]
[Morbo]LAW DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY![/Morbo]
This is one case where I find myself in the rare occasion of looking forward to seeing a corporation step on someone. Hard.
This guy is being frivolous and mistreating the civil court system to I don't even know what ends, and I hope whatever judge ends up in charge of this gives him the due result he deserves.
This guy is being frivolous and mistreating the civil court system to I don't even know what ends, and I hope whatever judge ends up in charge of this gives him the due result he deserves.
I have to wonder how much of this crap occurs before someone in congress or the courts decides that it is due time that TOA's and EULA's become legally binding for everyone. Then it will be a shitstorm on all our heads.Doclector said:
I don't care what the resolution to this will be, it's already hilarious.
I actually respect him more for coming clear that he's being dastardly than if he just stuck to the 'doing it for the little man' excuse.
I actually respect him more for coming clear that he's being dastardly than if he just stuck to the 'doing it for the little man' excuse.
Asperger's Syndrome-
Get out of Trouble/Jail/Internet Shame for Free
Why does everyone who has it blame it instead of themselves...
I know have Asperger's Syndrome because Asperger's Syndrome....
Get out of Trouble/Jail/Internet Shame for Free
Why does everyone who has it blame it instead of themselves...
I know have Asperger's Syndrome because Asperger's Syndrome....
The court won't recognize printing out a few pages will cause undue stress on his printer. Printers are made to print hundreds and hundreds of papers. Got a shitty printer? Go to a supplies store and add the bill to the damages if you're so confident.
He also admitted that he made sure the documents would be picked up by your standard employee which would not recognize the significance and get the forms to the legal department in time, in which the court would probably rule that he purposefully ensured that Microsoft would not have a plausible amount of time to respond.
Third, he gave them 24 hours to respond to a victory dispute (again sending it to a chump, not their legal department), which, for a big company like Microsoft, just may not be enough time to filter through the documents. It's like mailing out a form to the other side of the country (a minimum of 5 days to reach destination in Canada), and saying "If you don't respond to this within 24 hours of me writing it, YOU LOSE!"
Getting turned down from a job due to aspergers is actually viable depending on the job. Take a call center, where you talk on the phone all day, or a sales representative, where you need people skills to make a sale. If you're turned down for that job, the company is allowed to say "Unfortunately, he had asperger's, it displays heavily anti-social behaviour that does not fit well with the mandate of this position, it would be a bad business descision." which is true, and the decision is no longer "He's a freak" or "He's different" other than"He won't be able to do his job to our level of satisfaction"
Sorry, dude's got nothing
EDIT: Seriously, when was the last time you saw a Lawyer in court say "Sorry your honor, I wanted to be considerate to our printers, so I didn't print anything out"
EDIT 2: The court will also take into consideration the number of times Stebban has pulled stunts like this, which is alot according to the article. The Judge will likely look at this and say "You tried this shit X number of times this year. I'm sick of it, stop trying to screw people on technicalities"
He also admitted that he made sure the documents would be picked up by your standard employee which would not recognize the significance and get the forms to the legal department in time, in which the court would probably rule that he purposefully ensured that Microsoft would not have a plausible amount of time to respond.
Third, he gave them 24 hours to respond to a victory dispute (again sending it to a chump, not their legal department), which, for a big company like Microsoft, just may not be enough time to filter through the documents. It's like mailing out a form to the other side of the country (a minimum of 5 days to reach destination in Canada), and saying "If you don't respond to this within 24 hours of me writing it, YOU LOSE!"
Getting turned down from a job due to aspergers is actually viable depending on the job. Take a call center, where you talk on the phone all day, or a sales representative, where you need people skills to make a sale. If you're turned down for that job, the company is allowed to say "Unfortunately, he had asperger's, it displays heavily anti-social behaviour that does not fit well with the mandate of this position, it would be a bad business descision." which is true, and the decision is no longer "He's a freak" or "He's different" other than"He won't be able to do his job to our level of satisfaction"
Sorry, dude's got nothing
EDIT: Seriously, when was the last time you saw a Lawyer in court say "Sorry your honor, I wanted to be considerate to our printers, so I didn't print anything out"
EDIT 2: The court will also take into consideration the number of times Stebban has pulled stunts like this, which is alot according to the article. The Judge will likely look at this and say "You tried this shit X number of times this year. I'm sick of it, stop trying to screw people on technicalities"
Hm, I doubt Mr. Stebbins will get much from his antics. But I do think he is making a good point and maybe something good will come of this silliness. We can only hope.
Sounds kinda stupid, even if he does have a point.
Any good point he makes is immediately canceled by the 500 billion dollar asking fee.
If he really wanted to make a point he could just ask for a small amount of money like $100 or even no money at all.
As it stands now, I'm just marking this guy off as another greedy dickhead using the legal system to get rich quick.
Oh and he has Aspergers, I assume he assumes he can use that as a get out of jail free card right?
Yeah no, IT DOESN'T FREAKING WORK THAT WAY! Having Aspergers is not a justification for being an Asshole. God, I hate it when stuff like this happens. It only makes things worse for people with the syndrome who don't act like total dicks.
But, that's obviously not the focal point of this thread, the focal point is that this guy is just a greedy dick trying to screw an insane amount of money out of a large company. He'll be crushed underfoot in an actual legal battle, if it ever comes to that.
Any good point he makes is immediately canceled by the 500 billion dollar asking fee.
If he really wanted to make a point he could just ask for a small amount of money like $100 or even no money at all.
As it stands now, I'm just marking this guy off as another greedy dickhead using the legal system to get rich quick.
Oh and he has Aspergers, I assume he assumes he can use that as a get out of jail free card right?
Yeah no, IT DOESN'T FREAKING WORK THAT WAY! Having Aspergers is not a justification for being an Asshole. God, I hate it when stuff like this happens. It only makes things worse for people with the syndrome who don't act like total dicks.
But, that's obviously not the focal point of this thread, the focal point is that this guy is just a greedy dick trying to screw an insane amount of money out of a large company. He'll be crushed underfoot in an actual legal battle, if it ever comes to that.
Or he's incredibly anti-social and tends to focus a great deal of interest into something. Sadly, that seems to be legal disputes here, but he's interpreting how to manipulate the court wrong.Fronzel said:
Read the bottom first.
Some time ago a programmer figured out that every piece of music that could potentially be written can be broken down into short segments. So he wrote a program that generated every bit of song that could ever be written and saved it, it was a large but manageable amount of data. We're talking just rythyms here. In order to enforce a copyright all you have to do is be able to show you did something first, you don't have to file.
So in essence, by the wording of current copyright law, this programmer owns every beat created after 2008 or so. He never seriously pursued a cent. Why would he go to such lengths? To beat failures out of the system. Without people doing things like this, exposing loopholes or just shortcomings in law, then said loopholes and shortcomings just get to be abused.
The whole damn point is that if some software company can just change the EULA on a whim then you are giving them money for nothing. Like the folks that bought PS3's to run linux on. Sony advocated that, it wasn't an EULA breach. People bought them for budget super-computing. Then one day sony says that's not OK anymore, even though we both agreed on a contract at the outset and you paid us, we're going to unilaterally change it and if you don't like it enjoy your 500 dollar paperweight.
So then why ask for something ridiculous and use an obviously retarded "contract" to do it? It's called reductio ad absurdum. What he's trying to do IS stupid. It's also legal. Thats the point. If you say its legal to change a contract in the way EULAs are changed, this is a logical ramification of that. This is stupid, so maybe by extension the current rules are stupid. The guy got at least 5 pages worth of forum posters to read about his case, unfortunately the entire point seems to have blasted right over almost everyone's head.
By the way:
By reading the above text you agree to cede the ownership of every game account you have ever owned, and the entire contents of your porn stash to MartialArc. Your continued use of this post is your express consent to abide by the terms of the contract. If you do not agree to this EULA, you must terminate the relationship by cutting off your left testicle and shave off your eye brows. Written notice must be provided in blood within 17 nanoseconds to my mailbox in Moldova. Please post evidence of shaved eyebrows to this forum thread.
So now I'm guessing most folks would probably ignore the first line and just read on, so I'm expecting loads of logins and porn in my inbox, or loads of eyebrowless face pics. Herp Derp.
Some time ago a programmer figured out that every piece of music that could potentially be written can be broken down into short segments. So he wrote a program that generated every bit of song that could ever be written and saved it, it was a large but manageable amount of data. We're talking just rythyms here. In order to enforce a copyright all you have to do is be able to show you did something first, you don't have to file.
So in essence, by the wording of current copyright law, this programmer owns every beat created after 2008 or so. He never seriously pursued a cent. Why would he go to such lengths? To beat failures out of the system. Without people doing things like this, exposing loopholes or just shortcomings in law, then said loopholes and shortcomings just get to be abused.
The whole damn point is that if some software company can just change the EULA on a whim then you are giving them money for nothing. Like the folks that bought PS3's to run linux on. Sony advocated that, it wasn't an EULA breach. People bought them for budget super-computing. Then one day sony says that's not OK anymore, even though we both agreed on a contract at the outset and you paid us, we're going to unilaterally change it and if you don't like it enjoy your 500 dollar paperweight.
So then why ask for something ridiculous and use an obviously retarded "contract" to do it? It's called reductio ad absurdum. What he's trying to do IS stupid. It's also legal. Thats the point. If you say its legal to change a contract in the way EULAs are changed, this is a logical ramification of that. This is stupid, so maybe by extension the current rules are stupid. The guy got at least 5 pages worth of forum posters to read about his case, unfortunately the entire point seems to have blasted right over almost everyone's head.
By the way:
By reading the above text you agree to cede the ownership of every game account you have ever owned, and the entire contents of your porn stash to MartialArc. Your continued use of this post is your express consent to abide by the terms of the contract. If you do not agree to this EULA, you must terminate the relationship by cutting off your left testicle and shave off your eye brows. Written notice must be provided in blood within 17 nanoseconds to my mailbox in Moldova. Please post evidence of shaved eyebrows to this forum thread.
So now I'm guessing most folks would probably ignore the first line and just read on, so I'm expecting loads of logins and porn in my inbox, or loads of eyebrowless face pics. Herp Derp.
There was a kid in my percussion group that had asperger's, he loved to use it as a get out of jail free card. He was always acting like a little shit, giving everyone attitude, then would ***** and moan when we didn't treat him like a prince.Celtic_Kerr said:
Based on my experience with a kid, I'm going to say he's just an asshole who thinks he is untouchable because of a handicap.
