XCom E3 Trailer Brings the Disappointment

Lolth17

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It looks quite cool to me, but I'm a fan of Bioshock and I've never played Xcom, so maybe I'm not the best judge.
 

GrandmaFunk

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What concerns me is the amount of people who haven't played X-Com here. Probably one of the finest (and hardest) TBS games ever made.
sadly, most people under 25 simply don't have the attention span required for TBS.
 

Vash108

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Anoctris said:
Vash108 said:
JourneyThroughHell said:
Vash108 said:
Then if it is clearly not an X-Com game they should have made a completely new IP.
The fact that the game has nothing to do with X-Com is unfortunate but it shouldn't stop people from enjoying the game for what it is.
Yes, this should've been a new IP. But, still, even if it's not, it quite clearly can be a good game.
I get what you are saying and it can be a good game but what I see is that X-Com has a legacy to it.

You go to purchase an X-Com game expecting X-Com and to bring it home and get something totally different can very well kill someones enjoyment right there.

On a mild comparison, look at the new C&C game, STILL an RTS but the major changes to that game resulted in very disappointed and unfulfilled fans.

But a counterpoint to that would be Fallout 3. It went from Isometric to FPS and it did quite well, and was an enjoyable game. Still didn't live up to the true Fallout feel but it was there for the most part. (IMO).

Another thing is we have already had our 2K 50's Sci-Fi/Steam Punk-ish shooter, 2 of them. Can we move away from the FPS and try something a bit more original or at least go back to something resembling the X-Com formula. Even if it is not turn based we could have done real time or something.
I'd say just move away from Bioshock. But then again, compared to the following X-Com has, Bioshock is what the fanboys/masses want. Anything cloned from that must be instant gold right?
Maybe we will find Alien Technology to upgrade our shotguns pistols and rocket launchers. Then possibly get an Alien glove that lets you move things with your mind or shoot Ice and Fire!

Wait a minute...
 

Steve Butts

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This is, in a word, stupid. If they had just presented this as an original IP, it would have been amazingly awesome. But when you say the game is X-COM, that immediately creates certain expectations. 2K may be planning on delivering the core features but none of that comes across in this trailer. Instead it just looks like an X-Files shooter.
 

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is it just me or DID THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE XCOM FRANCHISE AT ALL!?!? wtf!!??! where are the ufo's where are the aliens? you know even just a sectoid would be nice to see,but NO! why cant anyone make a decent game for this franchise now? the first one was AWESOME! terror from the deep was mroe of the same and a little buggy but we still loved it! then things turn for the worst as it turns into a real time flashy thing.now an FPS! just go back to what Xcom was and what is best at! they could even just fucking remake the original with prettier graphics and a few more options to the already established ones in enemy unknown and they would have a good seller! they wouldnt even have to spend much to even make the dam game! but instead we get black oil things...how about a snakeman or even a cyberdisk...my god FAIL!

EDIT:forgot about Apocalypse,it was decent...
 

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Links or gtfo?
Links to Print Media are rather hard to do given that they are Print Media and not online. That said, I found someone who's posted up the bulk of the text here [http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27311384].

I'll admit, when I first heard that XCom was being remade as an FPS, my initial reaction could be summed up nicely by the earlier video, but reading that preview really changed my mind. I think the main problem with the trailer is that none of the features that made me hopeful about this new game really come across well as video only. It may be an FPS, but I think in this case that might just stand for 'First Person Strategy'.

As for the fact they've ditched the old continuity, I don't see that as a particularly bad thing. Each of the old games was set somewhere new with very few ties to the previous games, and as the series went on it became harder and harder to believe that the single base and tiny squad of men with second rate equipment you start with is the entire organisation that has previously stopped so many alien invasions! At it's heart, XCom has always been a tiny little agency tasked with fighting off an alien invasion, no matter when or where it's set, and that seems to sum up this new game just as well as any of the old ones.
 

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I'll never understand why anyone gives two shits about trailers, except as evidence for why the entire marketing profession should be declared mentally incompetent.
 

zHellas

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I'm quite interested in this game, actually. Since I saw an article about it in a magazine(can't remember exactly what magazine).

I shall buy it!
 

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dee_dubs said:
dfcrackhead said:
Links or gtfo?
Links to Print Media are rather hard to do given that they are Print Media and not online. That said, I found someone who's posted up the bulk of the text here [http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27311384].

I'll admit, when I first heard that XCom was being remade as an FPS, my initial reaction could be summed up nicely by the earlier video, but reading that preview really changed my mind. I think the main problem with the trailer is that none of the features that made me hopeful about this new game really come across well as video only. It may be an FPS, but I think in this case that might just stand for 'First Person Strategy'.

As for the fact they've ditched the old continuity, I don't see that as a particularly bad thing. Each of the old games was set somewhere new with very few ties to the previous games, and as the series went on it became harder and harder to believe that the single base and tiny squad of men with second rate equipment you start with is the entire organisation that has previously stopped so many alien invasions! At it's heart, XCom has always been a tiny little agency tasked with fighting off an alien invasion, no matter when or where it's set, and that seems to sum up this new game just as well as any of the old ones.
Yeah, that always bothered me, the world is under attack! But sorry, earth's governments are going to subject XCOM a yearly review that if you don't cut muster we'll just reduce your funding. Or join the aliens, whichever we feel like.

You would think they'd give them their -full- support. In fact, in the second game XCOM only still exists because an eccentric billionaire realises the aliens might be back at some point and buys and maintains all XCOM's old equipment.
 

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dee_dubs said:
I'll admit, when I first heard that XCom was being remade as an FPS, my initial reaction could be summed up nicely by the earlier video, but reading that preview really changed my mind. I think the main problem with the trailer is that none of the features that made me hopeful about this new game really come across well as video only. It may be an FPS, but I think in this case that might just stand for 'First Person Strategy'.

As for the fact they've ditched the old continuity, I don't see that as a particularly bad thing. Each of the old games was set somewhere new with very few ties to the previous games, and as the series went on it became harder and harder to believe that the single base and tiny squad of men with second rate equipment you start with is the entire organisation that has previously stopped so many alien invasions! At it's heart, XCom has always been a tiny little agency tasked with fighting off an alien invasion, no matter when or where it's set, and that seems to sum up this new game just as well as any of the old ones.
I'm in agreement with this chap here. It doesn't have any number of aliens from the original games sure and because of that, this trailer is nailed to a cross and shamed and booed at.

For shame people, for shame! When they rebooted the recent Star Trek movie into a alternate timeline and a new look, I recall a lot of people saying how much they loved it. As usual they didn't think much of the trailers but were still impressed with the final product (granted I'm sure a lot of the hardcore trekkies loathed it but that's their business)

I for one like the look of the new, fresh look this series could be taking. Sure, I miss what could have become of XCOM Alliance as much as the next XCOM fan does. But would you rather just the same original game updated with "HD technology" and revised graphics alone because I can probably guarantee you, a lot more hate would come from that as opposed to what we have here.
 

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Way to miss the point, 2K Games.
Thanks for making another generic First Person Shooter. Thank you so much.
Now there are only about...oh...12 or so major FPS Franchises in circulation right now.
Why not add another one to the pile?

Really, it looks like 2K Games took Fallout 3, un-nuked it, then had blobs and bricks attack Norman Rockwell's neighborhood. Then they slapped the X-COM name on the front, all in an attempt to sucker the old school gamers into even looking at this B-List schlock.

I was literally checking off the usual cliche's on my checklist as the trailer played.

They had best improve the game by launch, because this is insulting.
Even the departed Duke Nukem Forever looked more interesting, I mean, at least that game was closer to its source material and premise than this.

If I needed any more proof that the gaming industry has forgotten what matters, it is this.
Depth has been replaced by generic regurgitated gameplay, Bloom Lighting, and Havoc Physics.
Strategy replaced with the same FPS trappings of today. I wonder how long it will take 2K to put in the chest high walls and conveniently placed turrets. Or perhaps some barrels of nitroglycerin.
Oh, and did I mention what they've shown is borderline anachronistic within X-COM's own timeline?

Worst of all, they are literally treating this license as nothing more than disposable bait to lure in fans of the original. Because I can tell you one thing for certain: What I saw in that trailer, was not X-COM.
 

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Looks like an un-funny Destroy All Humans from a human POV, with the combat from Bioshock.

And let me tell you, Bioshock's combat was not its strong point. I hated the combat in Bioshock. It felt cramped and irritating (maybe appropriate for the setting, but not fun)

Where's the bastard hard sci-fi we know and love?

Mr.Petey said:
I for one like the look of the new, fresh look this series could be taking. Sure, I miss what could have become of XCOM Alliance as much as the next XCOM fan does. But would you rather just the same original game updated with "HD technology" and revised graphics alone because I can probably guarantee you, a lot more hate would come from that as opposed to what we have here.
I think it would be better with some changes to the formula, but this new game looks terrible.

How about a squad based FPS, with a dungeon keeper-esque building section, if they're so insistent on it being an FPS? That sounds like a fun game.
 

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I liked what 2K Marin did in Bioshock 2. I think your game looks good, Marin, even if few others seem to.

If the trailers continue to interest me, this could very well be a purchase.
 

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For those who haven't played the originals and want some Context as to what people are getting pissed about, GuavaMoment has done an excellent Let's Play of them over at: http://lparchive.org.

OT: I agree with the sentiment that most are feeling here, if they had used an original title then they would still have attracted the same audience but not alienated (ironic?) the die-hard fans of the franchise.