You know what I hate? Misanthropes.
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I agree that girls shouldn't do such things, and to be fair it's a shit example, I just couldn't think of a better one.No_Remainders said:
I also know that girls do really stupid things out of desperation, and that men need to take responsibility as well.
What I wanted to get across was the contrast between knowing stupidity and unknowing stupidity and that some people don't discriminate between the two.
I think the real issue at hand is misogyny. I'm not arguing that "gamers" or this community in particular are misogynistic, but society as a whole. It knows no boundaries, no race, and no religion. Do yourself a favor and seek out James Tiptree's short story "The Screwfly Solution" or the Masters of Horror television adaptation. It's chilling in its ongoing relevance. These threads don't seem to be about "dumb little hormonal boys," but rather "bitches, whores, sluts, nymphomaniacs, prudes" and whatever derogatory female stereotype one can come up with. It's all "her" fault because she's crazy and because she's female.
Did you get a little offended at my use of "boys" to describe male teenagers? Imagine being referred to as a "girl" 24/7 until you were 40.
Did you get a little offended at my use of "boys" to describe male teenagers? Imagine being referred to as a "girl" 24/7 until you were 40.
Nice avatar, great album.OmniscientOstrich said:
Anyway, on topic. I dislike misanthropes or nihilists unless I never have to interact with them, because while usually annoying to an incredible degree they can make some damn fine music/books/movies.
And yeah, happiness would be super bitchin'. We're also a bunch of judgmental, intolerant little fucks, but I guess that's the internet for you.
But, you can't be so cheaply cheerful for humanity! You're missing out on a great opportunity to frown and mood at everything great until something joyful happens, turning your life around for the better, so you turn optimistic, and finally turn into a vampire philanthropist.
Maybe than you could sell your story, as a script, for a movie. And get rich. RIIIICH!
Maybe than you could sell your story, as a script, for a movie. And get rich. RIIIICH!
TV and the Hollywood world has taught these people that your childish feelings and senseless drama makes you more important and deeper than everyone else. And that crying for attention and pity makes you more of a more complex person, than does actually having values and character.
And I think you have the wrong idea about what "misanthropy" means. Misanthropy is when someone hates people in general, and only seems to see the worst in humanity. It has little to nothing to do with being Emo.
Being emo is about being self-centered, and having self-hatred and self-pity. it seems similar to misanthropy, in that it attempts, (and fails horribly) to be anti-conformist. When an emo is hurt by the world, they will push aside a starving African child pleading to a TV camera, so that they can tell the world how unjust and unfair the world is to them.
And I think you have the wrong idea about what "misanthropy" means. Misanthropy is when someone hates people in general, and only seems to see the worst in humanity. It has little to nothing to do with being Emo.
Being emo is about being self-centered, and having self-hatred and self-pity. it seems similar to misanthropy, in that it attempts, (and fails horribly) to be anti-conformist. When an emo is hurt by the world, they will push aside a starving African child pleading to a TV camera, so that they can tell the world how unjust and unfair the world is to them.
You clearly does not know what misanthropy means. Being emo and being a misanthrope is NOT the same thing. A lot here believes they are misanthropes, but usually they're either emo or hipsters.
Personally I'm a somewhat misanthropic for some good reasons I wont go into with strangers. I don't cry that humanity is doomed, or how love is a lie. I simply don't like people very much. However this is improving with a change of environment.
Personally I'm a somewhat misanthropic for some good reasons I wont go into with strangers. I don't cry that humanity is doomed, or how love is a lie. I simply don't like people very much. However this is improving with a change of environment.
90% of the time im a happy,kind,accepting,nice person
but when i get bored(the kind of bored you get when all your friends are busy) for a longer period of time i get angry because i dont like being bored and then after the anger if im still bored i get misanthropic and cynical
but when i get bored(the kind of bored you get when all your friends are busy) for a longer period of time i get angry because i dont like being bored and then after the anger if im still bored i get misanthropic and cynical
Funny, when I get bored, I read whiny emo threads on the escapist and post supid comments myself.Captain_Fantastic said:
Oh wait...
Thanks. ^_^ I'm finding it rather ironic that the rather capriciously spawned cupcakes and rainbows thread seems to be doing much more to lift people's sprit's than this guy who's more or less telling people to 'cheer the fuck up' as if that would have any resounding impact. I think people here really need to decipher the difference between misnathropes and the misanthropic. I'm the latter, I'm wary of people I don't know and am prone to bouts of animosity and skepticism towards the greater percentage of the general populace, but that doesn't mean that I despise all of humanity and think them destitute of any altruistic intent. At any rate, I treat people as they come, they are individuals after all. On a side note, I don't get why you'd dislike nihilists, I mean Atheists are basically nihilists by default and many can be quite chirpy about being able to shape their own sense of purpose rather than relying on any inherent meaning to life. Okay, I've been rambling long enough, I'll leave you be.Ironic Pirate said:
I don't mind Nihilists/misanthropists necessarily, I hate the ones that spout on about it for now reason. Like, I was having a conversation about the best time to pet a cat (after they've been lying in the sun about they're all sleepy and warm) and someone else started going off about how we shouldn't be happy, and that there wasn't a point to it. It's like as soon as he saw happiness he was like "well fuck, I'm bad at being happy, so you shouldn't be, either", and it was annoying.OmniscientOstrich said:
Because nihilists are right. Life is pointless, it's a self perpetuating cycle that exists only to exist. And that's fine. Everyone needs to just find their own little niche, or hobby, or whatever the hell gives them dopamine and be nice to each other. If you're incapable of doing that, than rain on your on parade and leave the rest of us alone.
And now I'm rambling.
Ah yes, fair enough, although rather than nihilists/misanthropists I think those people are much more easily defined as arseholes.Ironic Pirate said:
Well, you have a lot of rhetorical questions there, so I'll let most of them be, but I may try to put out my point of view a bit if that's alright (and I assume it is because this is the internet after all). As for the question you actually did ask: misanthropy I would classify as bad because it would necessarily mean that you hate yourself, and doing that is absolutely silly. Humans are beautiful (maybe not to ourselves, and my next argument is slightly counter-intuitive/can't be made I suppose?) I think if looked at from aesthetics that are removed from our understanding of them (except we technically can't see something from outside of ourselves). I think the bottom line I'm trying to get down to is that if you sit and think about anything for too long, it starts to lose its meaning and starts to seem disgusting, I think. So when we sit and think about the human condition as humans, we start to see it as disgusting and unsettling and then start to hate it because we quite literally cannot escape it. Dying is only a cessation, it's not an escape because sensing nothing is not the same as sensing things and caring/thinking nothing about them.tomtom94 said:
So, I was watching a Day9 daily recently in which he did an hour of AMA (ask me anything) question and answer from his audience. The points that I distilled from his conversations with questioning fans/assorted audience was that you've got to just do things rather than analyzing them; if you want to be something, pursue it, and it really, really helps to have someone by your side who says, simply, "It's okay." "You made a mistake, it's okay; you destroyed your room because you were tired and angry, it's okay" was essentially the example he used. So, I understand the want to be in a relationship - to have someone with whom you feel "okay." We need that because we often don't get it from ourselves. After all, with so much time spent thinking about things we could have done differently, we start to become misanthropic and angry. Emotions happen; you cannot stop them. All you can hope for is someone there (later in life it is more likely to be the self) saying, "it's okay."
But until that point, give other people (and yourself for goodness sake) a break. If Rome wasn't built in a day and your body is akin to a temple, you can't expect to be fully furnished with beautiful stained glass windows or enough pews to keep all your emotions sitting in check from the moment you're born. After all, only by making mistakes and living life does our glass-covered outlook get broken, do we find cracks across our understandings of this thing called life, but only after we've been broken can we truly shine with any amount of brightness.
So, yeah, teenagers are learning that they still shine even after their hearts have been broken - give em a chance to mend.
Or, you know, something like that. That's what I'd put my 2 cents in as.
Oh, definitely. And sadly, they give everyone else a bad name.OmniscientOstrich said:
Man, assholes are just such... assholes.
...er... I guess I'm a bit of misanthrope because I don't care much for people, knowing what they are capable of. Sorry if that offends anybody...
