Dimensional Vortex said:
Mr.Mattress said:
I hate other people's Fiction, but right now I am being forced to read "The Catcher in the Rye" by J.D. Slinger for English.
... And I don't like it so far... The guy in the book is such a jerk.
YES! Another person gets it!
This is the post that made me stop lurking and arsed me into posting something. Continue reading it and you'll get it that Holden is not a jerk, just out of touch from our concept of reality and it's norms. Books, movies, games, and all art really, is not only about liking the character, the setting, the period it was made in and stuff like that, it's about the message it's conveying, what that piece of art is trying to tell you by the characters, setting, period, motifs and style the author is using, all these things together try to pass on to you, the reader, a message, or an emotion, or jsut something. And that's all what most of the art's about. I'm not gonna get into l'art pour l'art right now. All in all Salinger is widely praised as a notable writer and for laying out some interesting ideas on the "scene" in his time, and in my opinion it is justified.
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
I'm reading Demons by Dostoyevsky, and I'm almost done with it, thank god. Not that I don't like it, the story is really interesting, but there's so much back story to everything that I've gotten lost a few times.
A lot of people have that problem with Dostojevkski and realism in general. The point of all these back stories is in immersion and conveying all possible sides to the story there are, so as to remain objective as much as possible. French realists did this much better (with Tolstojs ridiculously long sagas being an exception) than the Russians or Ukrainians, because Russian realism (and Ukrainian with Gogolj) didn't really buy in to the whole objective thing, but instead took the concept and used it to try and create surreal immersion and deliver a ton of ideas and messages without you even noticing it.
With my rant done all I have left to add is that I'm reading Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami and it's damn interesting.