Zero Punctuation: Army of Two

jezz8me

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Awesome episode. Your never patchy. But actually release it on Wednesday next time. I usually am up to like 3 and it is still not up.
 

mshcherbatskaya

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Just to clarify: I have no problem with Yahtzee, I find him funny and smart and enjoyable and if I were really offended, believe me, you would have heard about it by now. Take a look at my post history if you have any doubts on that.

I am just noting, for the record, that the routine, perjorative use by people in general, regardless if it is "just a joke" or not, of words like "fag," "gay," "-tard," and "****" is part of a larger cultural thing, to use the technical term, that tends to make life suck for people who happen to be gay, developmentally disabled, or female.

That said, Yahtzee, don't change a thing.

And that said--you, M45TeR_CH13F or whatever your gamertag is, are not Yahtzee, so maybe you want to put down the controller and grab a thesaurus and find something other than "gay" to spew ad nauseum into your headset. Either that or keep the secondary asshole you've got growing in the middle of your face shut, because if it's something you wouldn't to my gay ***** **** face, maybe you shouldn't say it at all.
 

mshcherbatskaya

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Also, anyone who loves Yahtzee would probably really enjoy Things My Girlfriend and I Have Argued About [http://www.mil-millington.com/].

"Nothing keeps a relationship on its toes so much as lively debate. Fortunate, then, that my girlfriend and I agree on absolutely nothing. At all.

Combine utter, polar disagreement on everything, ever, with the fact that I am a text-book Only Child, and she is a violent psychopath, and we're warming up. Then factor in my being English while she is German, which not only makes each one of us personally and absolutely responsible for the history, and the social and cultural mores of our respective countries, but also opens up a whole field of sub-arguments grounded in grammatical and semantic disputes and, well, just try saying anything and walking away."
 

WoOtIn87

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Gay game ^_^ and it makes us Americans look like we are the assholes of the world, which we pretty much are lmao
 

Conqueso

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Uszi said:
Second, I don't find it to be a hypocrisy at all, since the gay jokes were of the form, "These two gentlemen seem on first impression to be gay lovers," and NOT of the form, "These guys are stupid and therefore gay." It is politically correct to watch two guys make-out on a bench, then turn to your friend and say, "That is really gay." It is NOT politically correct to see someone dance a jig, and tell that person, "You're dance was gay."
This is a pretty weak argument, because if it were really a matter of neutrally observing, you wouldn't really call them jokes. If "these two gentlemen seem on first impression to be gay lovers" is supposed to be a punchline, that implies there's something inherently funny about being gay. Horribly offensive? Hardly. But it's a far cry from "politically correct," either.

That said, Yahtzee clearly isn't a homophobe, and these jokes are funny mainly because the game developers (I assume, not having played the game) were aiming to make the main characters as butch as possible, yet inadvertently wrote homoerotic subtext into it. 'Scool by me.

Furthermore, giggling over unintended gay subtext and objecting to deliberately shooting Arabs doesn't seem that hypocritical at all to me. They're on different levels altogether.
 
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Conqueso said:
Furthermore, giggling over unintended gay subtext and objecting to deliberately shooting Arabs doesn't seem that hypocritical at all to me. They're on different levels altogether.
In what way? Both imply a prejudice based on false views. The former defends it whilst the latter rejects it. That would seem to imply a hypocritical standpoint.

I hardly think Jerry Seinfield would enjoy being portrayed as a gun-toting terrorist in the same way that Sir Ian Mckellan would enjoy being described as a man who likes it rough from men with hairy bums. Although, knowing his sense of humour...

Yahtzee actually touches on the subject himself "We're quickly reminded that the Military is shit, whilst Mercenaries are unstoppable immortal bad asses."

"...Each had a wooden horse...gaily they played, each summer's day..."

Just a little step down from the soapbox if you're going to use the subject of a rant as the focus of a joke please. :)