Zero Punctuation: Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[icaritos]

Yahtzee should really stop reviewing games that everyone buys for the multiplayer.

Agreed. I have watched every one of his reviews on this site, and the ones I enjoyed the absolute least were the games that are either successful thanks to their multiplayer components (Halo, Gears of War, Call of Duty, Bad Company, etc.), or have a terrible one that would be amusing to rip to shreds.

The sad thing is Croshaw thinks that multiplayer is useless. My bad, let me use an exact quote rather than speculate: "Unfortunately I don't give a flying sh*t about multiplayer, and neither do a lot of people." (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/8-Halo-3)

That mentality really carries over to every single game he reviews. I hate to burst your bubble Croshaw, but millions of people care about multiplayer. Hence why the games built around it absolutely demolish the games that lack it in terms of sales and popularity. So by you not actually giving an accurate (or any) account of a games multiplayer, you're successfully excluding an enormous portion of the market.

I just don't get how a reviewer in this day and age could not touch on multiplayer in a game. You wouldn't go to a movie blindfolded and complain about the lack of visiuals, just like you shouldn't play a game without touching on the multiplayer and whining about the lack of complexity, depth, replayability, quality, or whatever redeeming quality that multiplayer typically serves as in this day and age.

Yes you are right because mass effect 1 and 2, Bioshock 1 and 2, Fallout 3, MGS 4 and god of war (ALL OF THEM) were all terribly "demolished" because they lacked a strong (or any) multiplayer. Seriously?

 

[ScottocS]

I honestly don't see where all this praise is coming from for BFBC2.

If Yahtzee actually reviewed BFBC2 for it's multiplayer I would be seeing a lot more butthurt fanboism than I am now.

The multiplayer is definitly the centre peace of any Battlefield game. I will even go as far as to say, yes, BFBC2 has a sick multiplayer that is a whole bundle of fun. The singleplayer, not so much.

But why all the praise? Is it the fanboism? The MULTIPLAYER is broken for a larger majority of people playing without a stable/playable connection. And yet EA/DICE go on promoting there half assed attempt of a launch.

Stats don't update reguarly or as they should, When some people get into a game it is full of lag, the server browser is an afterthought. I actually like this game, and yet I seem to be finding that the BETA Was more stable than it's full release.

When DICE/EA deliver on a stable/workable multiplayer only then would I ever defend or "praise" them as a Game Developer/Publisher. The constant "This is really actually the best game of all time" Absolute Bull Shite. It isn't. Its a another generic FPS that is no better than MW2.

Is the multiplayer still broken for you? For the first week it was absolutely SHOCKING, but I've been enjoying great, fast connections as of late. Most fun I've had in an online FPS for a VERY long time

One note about the 'high pings' - the in-game ping display is actually server-side latency that helps to absorb lag effects. The ping you see in the server browser is your connection speed.

Well yeah it is. I can get into UK servers, Russian servers and even New Zealand Servers, but rarely do I get into a 100% dinky dei Aussie Server. :S

Oh ok... so its not ping, it's latency.. fare enough.....
Im going to attempt another session tonight and see how it all goes. Im guessing from Dice's previous launch history, it may take some time to get sorted.

By no means did I say this is a bad game, I just like to enjoy a stable Multiplayer/Interface. See you on the battlefield people's! No matter where you are! xD

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

Well the Video entertained me, which is all it needs to do.

So job well done, now run along and start sifting through all the mail sent by your adoring fans with review suggestions.

Oh, and happy Birthday, whenever it is.
[sub][sub]Don't know why I said that, but I said it all the same.[/sub][/sub]

 

[Kermi]

he think its trying to be realistic, and reviews a very MP focused game.
...
...amusing in a cute, "this isn't the type of game you should review" way.

Yahtzee never forgives a game because the multiplayer allegedly makes up for a lacklustre single player experience. He doesn't like multiplayer, remember?

 

[GLo Jones]

fanboy snip

Hold on... you claimed that even more of your opinions were facts... you said "you're doing it wrong" about 500 times... you completely ignored every single one of my arguments and just said STFU IM RIGHT... you're actually becoming MORE of a fanboy! This is fascinating.

I hope you realize that there is no absolutely substance to your arguments.

Oh, and say whatever you like in response to this, but I'm done here. I have much better things to do than listen to people who cannot separate their opinions from fact whine about how their generic modern class-based multiplayer FPS is just soooooooooooooooo much better than all the other generic modern class-based multiplayer FPSes.

Good day.

I see what you did just there .. accusing me of being fanboy and instead of replying with any useful examples or even proper arguments you just keep ignoring simple facts and calling them "my opinion" (easy ticket .. huh) to avoid making any arguments aganist them cause you clearly haven't played the game for more than a couple of hours if not less .. if at all .. i already did mention several examples and you in return provided nothing at all.


Any person can clearly see what makes BC2 an excellent online game (tons of team work encouraging mechanics like spotting and rewards for every team-serving action, many varied vehicles to pilot, gameplay focuses on tactical objectives not mindless frag-fests, realistic ballistics behavior, destruction model that eliminates camping and makes fights more intense ... etc etc) which rarely any other online game offers.

But you just keep ignoring simple facts with your "opinion" ticket flashing whenever you feel you are in pinch (yeah .. like a simple fact that even a 5 years old can get .. you HP regens slowly in BC2 compared to any other game with regenerating HP.. that's why you need med-kits to survive longer)... you don't have much arguments to begin with .. not to mention i have already replied to every misinformed argument you tried to flash .. but you failed at saying anything meaningful in return other than "your opinion".

Wish you had watched the video though ... but your attitude just tells me you won't benefit from it at all anyway ... go back to your mindless noobish frag-fests .. you have embarrassed yourself enough for one day.

You both make good points, but at the end of the day, you're both just arguing your own opinion. Arguments like this (ramming your heads together) are pointless and only serve to annoy one another. I hope you're both satisfied.

OT: I much thoroughly enjoyed Battlefield's multiplayer, and couldn't care less about the singleplayer. The only time I don't have fun is when playing on my own/in a squad with randomers. I can see what Yahtzee said about dust though... and snow.

 

[diablomaki]

i will pay you to do a Zero Punctuation on the cheap porn videos under the name of "kill me with an axe please" they need a solid back hand ... to the face

 

[awsome117]

And yet, I still love the game

 

[SturmDolch]

Yahtzee never forgives a game because the multiplayer allegedly makes up for a lacklustre single player experience. He doesn't like multiplayer, remember?

The Godfather was a shit movie because I don't like parts without shooting, therefore I didn't watch those parts. I watched the parts with shooting and they sucked at being action sequences. Therefore, the Godfather sucked.[footnote]I don't actually believe that[/footnote]

Same logic.

Anyways, the video is meant to entertain, not inform. Sometimes Yahtzee raises good criticisms of the gaming industry. Sometimes he just spews insults to be funny. I'm not saying one of these is better, but this time, it was the latter.

 

[MONSTERheart]

The least I can say is that if it IS a MW2 ripoff (which it isn't because the CoD franchise ripped BF off first, but that's beside the point), then it is a ripoff that is better than the game it is ripping off.

 

[LordGarbageMan]

Multiplayer sucks until you get magnum ammunition, or stopping power.

 

[Tobias Rieper]

So wait, he 'reviewed' a battlefield game without mentioning the multiplayer? Seriously? That's like reviewing portal without mentioning the portal gun.

Probably the first review I've seen on here which was complete bullshit.

I mean, really? Did he only discuss the singleplayer? I've enjoyed over 60 hours of this game and haven't even finished the singleplayer mode, I probably won't, because the singleplayer mode is bad. It's an improvement over last BF games (or the lack thereof), but it's still bad.

The destructable terrain (decently done, not like in Red Faction) is one of the most refreshing things I've seen in multiplayer FPS shooters in the last decade. It's done believable enough, looks good to me and creates some new gameplay mechanics, one of the most balanced games I've played, class wise as well. But I like realistic shooters, I guess that makes me a bad person for not wanting BRIGHT COLOURS!!!! and liking dust in a warzone.

Playing on PC btw.

 

[CloggedDonkey]

I actually liked the game, but whatever, to each his own.

 

[Da3nd]

I like this review because he mention a panther. And I love panthers

[http://img230.imageshack.us/i/000618555.jpg/]

Cute panther kittens FTW

WIN!!!


also ye BC2 is a rip of MW2 wich In my opinion sucx... FUCK realism! Mario had no realism!...

its time videogame industry goes in a different direction. Realism is a hard used up lover


PS: you should give BC2 multiplayer a go. it excells at that, belive me

 

[Vainglory]

I actually properly laughed at the part with "pounded in to the dirt"... which is bad because im in my uni library...

 

[Formica Archonis]

"Perfectly square-shaped hole". I have to ask: Is Yahtzee exaggerating, or does the game really blow SQUARE holes in things?

HUGE exaggeration

Thanks! Had me nervous for a second there.

 

[mythicdawn12]

I have to say I agree with him on everything even though I really enjoyed the game. Well, it passed the time for me. Although I got through that mortar part after my fifth try, I figured out I had to squeeze real close to the big destroyed walls. (Also, sniping in multiplayer is amazing.)

 

[Mr.Screw]

Damnit... an there i was having all my retard friends saying "AMAZING GAME! AMAZING GAME! GET IT GET IT GET IT! If i hadn't jus waited 10minutes.... before running off to the store to get it (X.x)