I generally enjoy Zero Punctuation, but there is just something about reviewing the single player of a multiplayer game and accusing it of being similar to MW2 when it blatantly admits that the single player campaign is meant to be mocking MW2... I just felt like "wow, yahtzee is an observant one, isn't he... *rolls eyes*".
Zero Punctuation: Battlefield: Bad Company 2
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Am I the only person who made it through the mortar scene in one go? When it ended I actually figured the explosions were there more for effect then to outright kill you and didn't even pay them any real mind. Am I amazing or just lucky?Poomanchu745 said:
Is this person aware that Battlefield came first, and most of the things he likes about MW2 were taken and then refined from the Battlefield formula?Not G. Ivingname said:
okay wow I am having so much fun with this game's campaign (eh, had some fun times sniping in the multiplayer but it's a rental so I won't have much time to invest in it)
maybe the friendly mortar part will cause me a lotta pain but we'll see lol
I will say tho, the enemies are rather quick at spotting you and able to hit you with iron sighted machine guns from sniper rifle (or DRM whatever) distance...and ya lotsa dust
maybe the friendly mortar part will cause me a lotta pain but we'll see lol
I will say tho, the enemies are rather quick at spotting you and able to hit you with iron sighted machine guns from sniper rifle (or DRM whatever) distance...and ya lotsa dust
I guess you should try out Bad Company 2 then. As like, half the game takes place in jungle and/or coastline.Bek359 said:
He should just really stop reviewing games that the strong point is multiplayer, and when everyone asks him why he didn't review a game, he can just say "It's a multiplayer game and I can't be bothered to play it" since he really doesn't like it.
Because honestly IMO the multiplayer (especially Rush mode) in this game pretty much destroys Modern Warfare 2 but you wouldn't know that from this review.
Because honestly IMO the multiplayer (especially Rush mode) in this game pretty much destroys Modern Warfare 2 but you wouldn't know that from this review.
I have been saying it a lot in recent comments; ZP isn't as good as it used to be.
But this week it was pretty good. Still not as good as the old days. *daydreams of nostalgia*
But this week it was pretty good. Still not as good as the old days. *daydreams of nostalgia*
I agree; the single player game was shit, besides being absolutely gorgeous in a few parts. The single player campaign, however, was literally just a prologue for the multi-player.
Seriously...no, seriously it's just a long tutorial and exposition for the multi-player.
At the end of the single player campaign your boss says, "Good job, and by the way the Russians are invading Alaska!"
It's no coincidence that three of the multi-player maps are set in Alaska.
Seriously...no, seriously it's just a long tutorial and exposition for the multi-player.
At the end of the single player campaign your boss says, "Good job, and by the way the Russians are invading Alaska!"
It's no coincidence that three of the multi-player maps are set in Alaska.
Good thing the multiplayer is great... the singpleplayer was purely intented to get trough the boredom when the servers are down... :-(
I actually enjoyed the game. The campaign was too linear, helicopter combat was unsatisfying. I actually enjoyed the dust thing. Squinting your eyes and firing randomly at bad guys while dragging your ass from cover to cover was quite entertaining for me. It gave more of a challenge and dimension.
The sound effects were great, and the gfx engine ran smooth throughout the game. Also, your allies aren't totally useless like in CoD, even if that breaks the immersion by turning them into bulletproof mutated supersoldiers.
Hated the helicopter scenes.. don't understand why Stinger missiles aren't hanging around. Building models were limited, and a Siberian hut would end up looking like Tarzan's mansion in the middle of the jungle.
The first mission was okay, sending you back to ww2 for plot insulation duty.
Hated the frequent, uncontrollable cutscenes. Maybe the devs were too afraid you'd look in the wrong direction and miss the action. Maybe they should try to learn a thing or two from HL2's dev commentaries. Yes i was boring enough to play through the games for the fifth time, while also listening to them.
The sound effects were great, and the gfx engine ran smooth throughout the game. Also, your allies aren't totally useless like in CoD, even if that breaks the immersion by turning them into bulletproof mutated supersoldiers.
Hated the helicopter scenes.. don't understand why Stinger missiles aren't hanging around. Building models were limited, and a Siberian hut would end up looking like Tarzan's mansion in the middle of the jungle.
The first mission was okay, sending you back to ww2 for plot insulation duty.
Hated the frequent, uncontrollable cutscenes. Maybe the devs were too afraid you'd look in the wrong direction and miss the action. Maybe they should try to learn a thing or two from HL2's dev commentaries. Yes i was boring enough to play through the games for the fifth time, while also listening to them.
Sorry but I did a double take at "realistic shooter". BC2 is not exactly realistic, ArmA2 with ACE mod or [for a much better example] DCS Black Shark is realistic, BC2 is just particle effects, shiny graphics and more explosions than probably ever occured in the last 10 years, having said that I wish my copy would hurry up, ETA the 24th, humph! 
- Just a correction there, hospitals, crawling to safety, border patrol and pushups would be "authenticity" more than "realism". In terms of realism it's pretty far off (everyone carries parachutes, regenerating health, no armor simulation etc, I think "Military Action Shooty Shooty Fun Game" is a more accurate description =P
Edit: "Game" doesn't mean it can't be realistic, some people like realistic games, just like some people like games with bright colours and shiny things.
- Just a correction there, hospitals, crawling to safety, border patrol and pushups would be "authenticity" more than "realism". In terms of realism it's pretty far off (everyone carries parachutes, regenerating health, no armor simulation etc, I think "Military Action Shooty Shooty Fun Game" is a more accurate description =P
Edit: "Game" doesn't mean it can't be realistic, some people like realistic games, just like some people like games with bright colours and shiny things.
Perhaps it's that I'm drunk but this was one of the funniest episodes in a fucking long while.
I do agree with the excess of "realistic" shooters being ridiculous, and I always point out to my friends that "realistic" is not fucking realistic it's just a different type of shittier shit.
I do agree with the excess of "realistic" shooters being ridiculous, and I always point out to my friends that "realistic" is not fucking realistic it's just a different type of shittier shit.
Not a mention to the multiplayer... But it's understandable why Yahtzee doesn't have any friends, I would hate to play something with him
I've been playing the game in MP for more than 90 hours now and I never had ANY issues knowing where I am and where stuff is. The graphics are awesome and I have no idea what grainy effects you're referring to. No idea how the "console" loading times are - but for me, the loading is next to instant.Infernal_Me said:
Swing and a miss Yahtzee, swing and miss...
Yes, BC2's single player is shamelessly "borrowing" the setting, to put it gently, from MW (the original, not the shitty sloppy seconds). No, he gameplay is totally different. Yes, the single player totally needs work (although I'd argue you were just playing it wrong, considering I didn't have much of an issue in the mortar stage... Run).
With all those faults, it still offers the best experience I've ever had in a game. A great part of it is the MP, and we all know you don't review that, but considering the MP was largely the focus (and the SP was more of a secondary "bonus" experiment) you really should have given it a try... Then again you reviewed Borderlands as a single player game, which equally confused me (despite the fact that I don't particularly like it).
Yes, BC2's single player is shamelessly "borrowing" the setting, to put it gently, from MW (the original, not the shitty sloppy seconds). No, he gameplay is totally different. Yes, the single player totally needs work (although I'd argue you were just playing it wrong, considering I didn't have much of an issue in the mortar stage... Run).
With all those faults, it still offers the best experience I've ever had in a game. A great part of it is the MP, and we all know you don't review that, but considering the MP was largely the focus (and the SP was more of a secondary "bonus" experiment) you really should have given it a try... Then again you reviewed Borderlands as a single player game, which equally confused me (despite the fact that I don't particularly like it).
I hope I meet Yahtzee in a shooter some day because I'll probably shoot his nuts off more often than he swears.
The BFBC2 singleplayer campaign was in my not so humble opinion disappointingly easy (even on the highest difficulty setting) and "criminally short" as Yahtzee would have put it. It's as close to a rail-shooter as you can get without disabling WASD. Yeah, some sequences I had to do over and over, like that damned cockpit rush, but in the end I probably spent less than 10 hours on it.
Then again... DICE probably learned from Portal there: don't drag it out because people won't thank you for it. Do your things once and then move the heck on. Had I had to endure another "Run or die from hypothermia (you underdressed tosser)" sequence I would have been quite dishertened. It doesn't lend itself well to dwelling on. Just do it once for giggles.
I think the single player mode should best be regarded as a fun little novella that comes with the game (like The Dark Wheel [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Wheel] to Elite) that also doubles as a tutorial for the real part of BFBC2: the multiplayer mode.
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The BFBC2 singleplayer campaign was in my not so humble opinion disappointingly easy (even on the highest difficulty setting) and "criminally short" as Yahtzee would have put it. It's as close to a rail-shooter as you can get without disabling WASD. Yeah, some sequences I had to do over and over, like that damned cockpit rush, but in the end I probably spent less than 10 hours on it.
Then again... DICE probably learned from Portal there: don't drag it out because people won't thank you for it. Do your things once and then move the heck on. Had I had to endure another "Run or die from hypothermia (you underdressed tosser)" sequence I would have been quite dishertened. It doesn't lend itself well to dwelling on. Just do it once for giggles.
I think the single player mode should best be regarded as a fun little novella that comes with the game (like The Dark Wheel [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Wheel] to Elite) that also doubles as a tutorial for the real part of BFBC2: the multiplayer mode.
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I wouldn't call Modern Warfare 2 or Bad Company 2 that realistic. A realistic war shooter would be Operation Flashpoint. When you get shot in the legs you pretty much lose the ability to use them after a bullet or two.8bitmaster said:
You can even bleed to death in the game as well.
Noone said "slow", just "slower".Anti Nudist Cupcake said:
A super sonic jet going 80 miles an hour is still pretty damned fast. I can't run that fast, can you?
About the episode: I hoped for more bile, but he's right about the dust thingy, it's hard to navigate sometimes. And the fact that a ginormous duststorm is erected the second a feather hits the floor is not a lie...
It feels very ignorant to call bad company 2`s destruction system a red faction rip off, it certainly did it better than the previouse red faction games ever did in the past and just because they make total building destruction which merely adds another phase to the destruction process that was already there he plainly calls it a red faction rip off.