Zero Punctuation: Catherine
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I don't understand this... recurring theme where everybody in a videogame is a living example of some psychological quirk taken to its utmost extreme. This game seems to revel in it while trying to look ironic, as if to say "People aren't really just caricatures, are they? You're a real person with contrasting feelings and emotions, right? ARE YOU, really? Hm?"
It's hard to swallow the joke. Not because it brings feelings of inadequacy, but because it decides you, the player, are too shortsighted to see why relationships are a minefield.
It's hard to swallow the joke. Not because it brings feelings of inadequacy, but because it decides you, the player, are too shortsighted to see why relationships are a minefield.
I liked the game a lot just for the puzzles. It's funny that he didn't comment on atlus' obsession with transsexuals.
Which for some reason you only find out about at the end of the "good" ending.
Which for some reason you only find out about at the end of the "good" ending.
Have you considered that people who agree with Yahtzee post en masse because they feel vindicated in their choice and the people who disagree post less because they're too timid to go against the flow?NameIsRobertPaulson said:
No? No, you're right, you're only allowed to have your own opinion if it's always different from whatever Yahtzee thinks. You remember that the next time he says anything you agree with.
I agree with what he said. He seems to have the exact same opinion as I do with this game. That's a first...
Considering his (very appropriate) diagram of the niche market this game was made for, I was surprised that he didn't shred the game apart.
Hmm...as a fan of anime/j-rpgs, I admit I do realize that angst is a major component in some of these titles. One of these days, I'm going to have to figure out why Asians LUVA their angst.
With the Koreans, it's the Korean Dramas (some girl always has cancer, etc.)
Japanese --> Anime/rpgs
Chinese ---> Sob Story series. Crying women, raging/screaming guys. Some poor boy raising his sister, and then loses an arm, and then yadda yadda WHAT?!
OK I'm just throwing out random images that come to my head when said groups are brought up. But yeah, it's -so- true.
I'm Asian btw, so no "you racist!" k?
Hmm...as a fan of anime/j-rpgs, I admit I do realize that angst is a major component in some of these titles. One of these days, I'm going to have to figure out why Asians LUVA their angst.
With the Koreans, it's the Korean Dramas (some girl always has cancer, etc.)
Japanese --> Anime/rpgs
Chinese ---> Sob Story series. Crying women, raging/screaming guys. Some poor boy raising his sister, and then loses an arm, and then yadda yadda WHAT?!
OK I'm just throwing out random images that come to my head when said groups are brought up. But yeah, it's -so- true.
I'm Asian btw, so no "you racist!" k?
Now say it in a wobbly voice.
OT: Good episode. Also, are you sure that there wasn't also a lot of yelling along with the angst in that anime?
OT: Good episode. Also, are you sure that there wasn't also a lot of yelling along with the angst in that anime?
You thought this game was too hard? It's got an easy and super easy mode, not to mention continues that spawn after every check point (which basically means infinite lives), and a undo button.
Also, depending on what ending your going for (every scene dialogue base on meter system) he does end up explaining to Cathrine that he has a girlfriend, and it doesn't help (Cathrine is crazy).
Also, depending on what ending your going for (every scene dialogue base on meter system) he does end up explaining to Cathrine that he has a girlfriend, and it doesn't help (Cathrine is crazy).
Actually, that's not the case. In fact, you achieve arguably the best ending by keeping the karma meter in the middle. I decided to be 100% brutally honest in my playthrough to see what would happen and my meter just hovered around the middle throughout the game. The ending I got is called 'true freedom' and once I Youtubed the other endings I decided I'd hit the nail on the head first time already!! If you don't mind having one of the 8 endings spoiled, then check out the true freedom ending on Youtube... I think you'll agree it's the best outcome for Vincent.Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Catherine: Challenging but fun puzzle platform game, cliche romance story. Reminds me of Obsessed(2009). The sheep are more interesting than women. This is a personal opinion. Now if you'll excuse me, I be reading the thrilling tale of Archie andrews. Good day.
He said that you either need to be fully towards commitment or fully towards freedom but that actually isn't true. If you always stay in the middle you will get the 'True Freedom' Ending which ends with Vincent being left by both K/Catherines but also having true freedom and becoming rich.
Well that endingds just shouts, "Fuck women! You still got your bros" directly in your face.
Well that endingds just shouts, "Fuck women! You still got your bros" directly in your face.
Oh Yahtzee, you self-proclaimed pinnacle of manhood, you! Don't you know that cunty bitches run this world? Beyonce even proclaimed it proudly, the dyke!
I like Catherine or Katherine (or Qatherine or AHSMMMMGHGWQJJStherine with four Ms and a silent Q) because it is a strong statement on the "whipped males" topic, in which the game drops its pants and swinging its package freely in the air while exclaiming, "See what happens when your quest for pussy gets the better of you?" It's uncomfortable to watch, and even more uncomfortable to admit: we are a generation of men raised by women who are conditioned to bow down to the almighty pussy, and there is nothing we can do about it.
Okay feminist, you may now label me as a "chauvinist pig" and nail me on the cross by the dick. Here are your hammers and stakes. XD
I like Catherine or Katherine (or Qatherine or AHSMMMMGHGWQJJStherine with four Ms and a silent Q) because it is a strong statement on the "whipped males" topic, in which the game drops its pants and swinging its package freely in the air while exclaiming, "See what happens when your quest for pussy gets the better of you?" It's uncomfortable to watch, and even more uncomfortable to admit: we are a generation of men raised by women who are conditioned to bow down to the almighty pussy, and there is nothing we can do about it.
Okay feminist, you may now label me as a "chauvinist pig" and nail me on the cross by the dick. Here are your hammers and stakes. XD
I imagine he said it's misogynistic because it portrays men as having only two choices: psycho ***** girlfriend/wife or humorless controlling girlfriend/wife.
Also, rick, who says it's women doing all that? I'm sure there are more than a few women who play into the sainted narrative we speak about women, but I'd say it's just as much, if not more, male influence that says we should go on a mad quest to fuck every woman in the world.
That's really one of the big problems with both genders...we see the other gender as some magical 'other,' that has the power to either save our souls or damn them.
Men, you have the madonna/whore complex, which has quite a few definitions but for me it manifests as "You're either pure or a whore," and I don't mean pure in terms of sexual partners either.
Women, you have the whole "Romance novel lead" vs. "Bastard boyfriend/husband" dynamic going. Men are either perfect knights in shining armor or they are evil personified.
Am I saying that everyone thinks this way? Yes. It seems only natural that we should think of our own gender as the normal, mundane creatures of the world, and the other as either angels or demons.
However, normal people can, and do, find middle ground to see that it's NOT always this way and thus find a mate who falls between the two options.
What we need to do is resolve to find the same middle ground.
Also, rick, who says it's women doing all that? I'm sure there are more than a few women who play into the sainted narrative we speak about women, but I'd say it's just as much, if not more, male influence that says we should go on a mad quest to fuck every woman in the world.
That's really one of the big problems with both genders...we see the other gender as some magical 'other,' that has the power to either save our souls or damn them.
Men, you have the madonna/whore complex, which has quite a few definitions but for me it manifests as "You're either pure or a whore," and I don't mean pure in terms of sexual partners either.
Women, you have the whole "Romance novel lead" vs. "Bastard boyfriend/husband" dynamic going. Men are either perfect knights in shining armor or they are evil personified.
Am I saying that everyone thinks this way? Yes. It seems only natural that we should think of our own gender as the normal, mundane creatures of the world, and the other as either angels or demons.
However, normal people can, and do, find middle ground to see that it's NOT always this way and thus find a mate who falls between the two options.
What we need to do is resolve to find the same middle ground.