Where did I accuse you of not having fun with it? Hmmm? HMMMMMMM?derpa said:Hmmm, seems lots of people on here like to make assumptions, where did I say I never had any fun with fallout 3? hmmm?thetragicclown said:I think you're a bit lost. You see, this is the Zero Punctuation forum.derpa said:Yea none of the fans would have liked it *eye roll*
The forums for never-satisfied, "It's not Van Buren!" Fallout "fans" are over here [http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/].
I'll point it out for you.thetragicclown said:Where did I accuse you of not having fun with it? Hmmm? HMMMMMMM?derpa said:Hmmm, seems lots of people on here like to make assumptions, where did I say I never had any fun with fallout 3? hmmm?thetragicclown said:I think you're a bit lost. You see, this is the Zero Punctuation forum.derpa said:Yea none of the fans would have liked it *eye roll*
The forums for never-satisfied, "It's not Van Buren!" Fallout "fans" are over here [http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/].
All the important gripe can be summed in Beth going for a action/shooter rather then a good RPG.TerraMGP said:I still don't understand all the hate. People are holding this game up to some huge standard it could never really meet no matter what. Its true that this is diffent than the last two games but that does not have to be a bad thing. Once you remove the rose tinted glasses Fallout 2 had alot of things fans complained about when compared to one anyways. Personally I think that most of the gripes with Fallout 3 and with bathesda's work in general are kind of too hard. After all they went though the work of picking up a series that most of the fans would hate them for no matter what they did, dusting it off, and putting alot of effort into making a really good game. It is good too. How many other companies put this level of overall detail into a game anymore, especially with all the cries for 'better graphics' and 'more content' from everywhere. How many companies still go above and beyond what will get them the money? Hell how many companies dare to survive by putting out such a relatively small number of high quality games?
The days of the Pen and Paper Iso are gone unless one of you guys wants to get tools and make one. It saddens me too but if you refuse to look past it then your crushing all the fun out of a wonderful game before you even touch the keyboard. I'm not even going to pretend to understand the hate towards the Elder scroll games, but it seems that most of the people who feel that way hated Fallout 3 for not being like the other two anyways. This is not an episode 1-3 situation people. They kept the continuity fairly well, kept the feel, did quite a bit to try and make old fans happy which frankly almost seems like a wasted effort for most fans.
I am sorry to say but the way I see it those who seem to have serious complaint about the game, well, I'm sorry to say that anything done by anyone but Black Isle was never going to be good enough and the game lost the ability to be fun for you when you heard about it it seems. You know this is a good reason though for people to homebrew Fallout into their favorite pen and paper system though as it would finally make those people happy.
And the fact that Fallout 3 doesn't even work particularly well as an action/shooter, either.derpa said:All the important gripe can be summed in Beth going for a action/shooter rather then a good RPG.
You sir, have a way of putting things on paper that I can't be bothered pointing out to people. I couldn't agree any more with all of your statements so far, it just irks me to no end that people had this certain game in their minds and they're just pissed it didn't get done to what they thought it should be. I shall name it 'Fanboi Tunnel Vision'.TerraMGP said:I still don't understand all the hate. People are holding this game up to some huge standard it could never really meet no matter what. Its true that this is diffent than the last two games but that does not have to be a bad thing. Once you remove the rose tinted glasses Fallout 2 had alot of things fans complained about when compared to one anyways. Personally I think that most of the gripes with Fallout 3 and with bathesda's work in general are kind of too hard. After all they went though the work of picking up a series that most of the fans would hate them for no matter what they did, dusting it off, and putting alot of effort into making a really good game. It is good too. How many other companies put this level of overall detail into a game anymore, especially with all the cries for 'better graphics' and 'more content' from everywhere. How many companies still go above and beyond what will get them the money? Hell how many companies dare to survive by putting out such a relatively small number of high quality games?
The days of the Pen and Paper Iso are gone unless one of you guys wants to get tools and make one. It saddens me too but if you refuse to look past it then your crushing all the fun out of a wonderful game before you even touch the keyboard. I'm not even going to pretend to understand the hate towards the Elder scroll games, but it seems that most of the people who feel that way hated Fallout 3 for not being like the other two anyways. This is not an episode 1-3 situation people. They kept the continuity fairly well, kept the feel, did quite a bit to try and make old fans happy which frankly almost seems like a wasted effort for most fans.
I am sorry to say but the way I see it those who seem to have serious complaint about the game, well, I'm sorry to say that anything done by anyone but Black Isle was never going to be good enough and the game lost the ability to be fun for you when you heard about it it seems. You know this is a good reason though for people to homebrew Fallout into their favorite pen and paper system though as it would finally make those people happy.