Wiimote controls are a your millage may vary kinda thing. I for one have never had any trouble getting my wiimote to respond exactly how I want it to at exactly the right time. Also I think that, while it does do a good job of determining what YOU like, basing a consoles objective worth around your and your friends opinions is an inherently flawed system. I have yet to find more than one or two games on the xbox 360 that I really would consider buying. On the other hand I have bought and kept a number of wii games and play them on a regular basis. Does this mean the xbox 360 sucks, or that it doesn't deserve to have developers make games for it because I don't like the type of games they make for it? No. What it does mean is that I don't appreciate the system as much as other people do. The fact that other people appreciate it can not be disputed. And I wouldn't try to. This is where I have the biggest beef with this review. You don't like the game? That's fine. You don't like the console? I might dispute the necessity of putting that in the review of the game, but ok, whatever. You think that everyone should abandon the system because you don't like? Now we're getting stupid. Console wars (and what I'm beginning to see as the casual/hardcore divide) seem to me to be the worst and most detrimental aspect of the gaming culture of today.
Zero Punctuation: MadWorld
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I (as always) loved the video, and I rate the opening Charlton Heston bit as one of Yahtzee's funniest moments ever. I had actually never heard of the game, largely due to the fact that I've never really paid much heed to the Wii and fully support Yahtzee's crusade to get others to ignore it too.
kazork said:
That may be true, but judging by the caliber and genera of games the Wii has to offer you and I (I'm 22) are not the target audience.
Though I do not own a Wii I have (as a moderate gamer) logged well over 100 hours in Fallout 3. I doubt any Wii game can do the same AND have a solid foundation of similar titles to offer.
Great review. I was wondering when Yahtzee would do this, thinking yahtzee might like the ultra-violence but hate it for... the fact its on the Wii.
But the phrases and the analogies in this one were great, thoroughly hilarious
But the phrases and the analogies in this one were great, thoroughly hilarious
Various (mostly) valid complains about the Wii effect on the biz aside... is it worth asking whether or not Madworld would even have gotten greenlit on the 360 or PS3? Can you really see Sony or MS saying "yeah, lets do that" to publishing something this offbeat even if just at the visual level?
If you're TRYING to innovate in this generation, you're pretty-much effed: You're choices are either two prohibitively-expensive giants wholly resistant to anything that really rocks the boat or an underpowered alternative where anything above a "T" is in an automatic niche.
If you're TRYING to innovate in this generation, you're pretty-much effed: You're choices are either two prohibitively-expensive giants wholly resistant to anything that really rocks the boat or an underpowered alternative where anything above a "T" is in an automatic niche.
I've been thinking of it alot, and I simply can't get my around the fact that he liked No More Heroes despite it's flaws but hated MadWorld despite the fact that it's basically No More Heroes but 10 times better.
I couldn't agree more about the Wii. I keep telling people what a piece of garbage it is but they all keep buying games for it... and being disappointed when said games suck due to the Wii's abundant shortcomings.
I hope the bloody thing dies soon so developers will make games for consoles that matter.
I hope the bloody thing dies soon so developers will make games for consoles that matter.
I personally wouldn't be able to put in over 100 hours in Fallout. I wouldn't call that moderate gaming either though.Melancholy_Ocelot said:
I bought my Wii only recently knowing full well I would never get many games on it. But I don't really play on my one that much anyway. The Wii is still the best console in my eyes out of the next generation to have some solid fun with friends. I think I will buy Madworld simply because it's a great game to have to just invite a friend or two over and compete.
Finally decided to register to compliment Yahtzee's reviews. So, great review.
I'm still debating buying this game since I've barely got anything to play on my Wii.
I'm still debating buying this game since I've barely got anything to play on my Wii.
It's jammed in with the HOUSE OF THE DEAD: OVERKILL review, because he says he couldn't think of much to say about it on its own.C3RV3ZA said:
Regional? It is just the most common complaint about the Wii world wide. If you don't feel anything wrong with it's controllers, either you acclimated very well or you're just protecting the Wii. I'm not doing a Nintendo bash, although I think it was only good until the Nintendo 64, but at least I'm not making shit up. That's because your 6.94 was just made up. I admit what I said was based on old data (about 3.4 by console, but it looks to be a year-old census). A quick search shows several different sources pointing to 4.9 - 5.5. Better than the PS3, alright, but the PS3 doesn't fare any better than the Wii on exclusivity games, both being one disappointment after the next.Evan Waters said:
And I couldn't care less about "casual" or "hardcore". I loathe Guitar Hero but I like Peggle, so bug off. I have no problem with the thousands of flash games at Kongregate and it is all well and good that more people out there are playing. All that doesn't change the fact that a game can be "casual" and serious. And some of the "casual" labeled games are actually harder and more addictive than any "hardcore" out there.
My problem is that they don't make casual games for the Wii. They make retarded games for it. For the ones who care to label they're not casual, but something further. They're relatively fun for 5 minutes (depending on your tolerance on the controls) then you feel like doing something else. Also ultimately they are depth-less and lacking, even the good ones. And the Miis just scream as hard as possible "little kid's stuff". Most normal adults can play the Wii and find it fun. But at the same time they find it very, very silly. And that will be all the idea of what a game is for most of them, so they'll look down on whoever calls themselves "Gamer".
Before the Wii, I could say I'm a gamer and the worst I could hear was something like "Oh, so you like Mario and stuff?". Now, invariably, when I say I'm a gamer or show concern for a game in any way I hear "Stop being a kid, it is just a game. Children stuff." Because invariably a game with a serious storyline like Mass Effect is completely overshadowed to the major populace by the massive fame of the Wii and their loath-inducing Miis (seriously, these little fuckers are like a bad caricature a bitter cartoonist made of gamers to ask everybody to point and laugh).
I had semi-high hopes for this game but I played it for two hours and found it pretty.... well boring. Really really boring. The tutorial was brutal, and the first few seconds were fun, then it was just "blah blah chainsaw blah blah road sign blah blah spikes". And maybe I was scoring points way too fast or something but the game interrupted me every minute or so with a cutscene showing a new weapon, or a new challenge thing, or a bull guy. And if I saw the challenge cutscene and walked over there I'd immediately get another, even longer cutscene with some guy in blackface or something explaining how it works. It wouldn't have been alright if I wasn't interrupted ALL THE TIME. I may have been bored, but constant breaks in flow were still irritating.
The commentators I didn't find that funny. It was like they were trying waaaaay too hard. All I heard out of them was "dick dick dick we're so edgey".
Only one complaint about the review. Come off it Yatzhee, that shit looks more like a Frank Miller comic than most Japanese comics. Psssh.
The commentators I didn't find that funny. It was like they were trying waaaaay too hard. All I heard out of them was "dick dick dick we're so edgey".
Only one complaint about the review. Come off it Yatzhee, that shit looks more like a Frank Miller comic than most Japanese comics. Psssh.
Yahtzee needs to quit reviewing consoles/platforms and just review the goddamn game. I don't even think of him as a game critic, just a console-basher.