Zero Punctuation: MadWorld

[Judithia]

Yahtzee needs to quit reviewing consoles/platforms and just review the goddamn game. I don't even think of him as a game critic, just a console-basher.

This x1000

To be honest i enjoyed the game some what but all his points other then the targeting system where lies.

Difficulty - play hard more, enemies dodge and counter all the time.
Combat - Twas fine
Repetition - The game is what you make it, there was enough environmental kills to mix up so that it never got old but you COULD do the same on over and over and thus get bored.
Wii remote - It registered fine for me and i never had a problem.

some times i think Yahtzee tries too hard to hate the game.

 

[Kage Me]

Though I do not own a Wii I have (as a moderate gamer) logged well over 100 hours in Fallout 3. I doubt any Wii game can do the same AND have a solid foundation of similar titles to offer.

I've probably had more than 100 hours of Brawl. It was 77 hours when I last checked, and that was well over two months ago...

 

[chase211]

My Dad now has a Wii. He's the kind of person who wouldn't touch a serious games console unless it held the key to immortality, so this goes to show what a pile of crap the Wii must be.
Five minutes with the motion control bollocks and I'm ready to throw it out the window.
Death to nintendo.
Oh, good "review" Yahtzee. Let's see more anti-nintendo rants! Just pick any random Wii game and use it as an excuse to piss all over the big N.

I can't tell what your point is. Surely if it's a console that appeals to people who haven't bought consoles before, that's a GOOD thing for the gaming industry, right? But then you say that you hate it and want more rants.

So mcdonalds is a good thing for the food industry right? I believe the mans point is that when something is so dumbed down and mass produced so grandma and play too it oftin looses the creativity and certainly any semblance of challenge or difficulty for those of us that are actual gamers...atleast I think thats the point.

Though I do not own a Wii I have (as a moderate gamer) logged well over 100 hours in Fallout 3. I doubt any Wii game can do the same AND have a solid foundation of similar titles to offer.

I've probably had more than 100 hours of Brawl. It was 77 hours when I last checked, and that was well over two months ago...

Funny that the one Wii game you claim to have played alot (only one I can make that claim on too) is also one that any responsible player only plays using a gamecube controller.

 

[Judithia]

My Dad now has a Wii. He's the kind of person who wouldn't touch a serious games console unless it held the key to immortality, so this goes to show what a pile of crap the Wii must be.
Five minutes with the motion control bollocks and I'm ready to throw it out the window.
Death to nintendo.
Oh, good "review" Yahtzee. Let's see more anti-nintendo rants! Just pick any random Wii game and use it as an excuse to piss all over the big N.

I can't tell what your point is. Surely if it's a console that appeals to people who haven't bought consoles before, that's a GOOD thing for the gaming industry, right? But then you say that you hate it and want more rants.

So mcdonalds is a good thing for the food industry right? I believe the mans point is that when something is so dumbed down and mass produced so grandma and play too it oftin looses the creativity and certainly any semblance of challenge or difficulty for those of us that are actual gamers...atleast I think thats the point.

Though I do not own a Wii I have (as a moderate gamer) logged well over 100 hours in Fallout 3. I doubt any Wii game can do the same AND have a solid foundation of similar titles to offer.

I've probably had more than 100 hours of Brawl. It was 77 hours when I last checked, and that was well over two months ago...

Funny that the one Wii game you claim to have played alot (only one I can make that claim on too) is also one that any responsible player only plays using a gamecube controller.

I play it was a classic controllers, but if you want an example of wii remote done right take your pick from Pikmin 1 - 2, Metroid Prime 1 or 3 any and all lightgun games like house of the dead or ghost squad.

 

[internutt]

I haven't tried the game yet. It still looks like fun at least.

Its a shame the Wii is too much of a confusing platform for Devs.

 

[Skorn69]

no no its not. its always funny and nintendo bring it on themselfves game that comes to mind is red steel

 

[garyj]

Once again, a very funny video.

But this has to be said. If you lot are actually taking these videos seriously then there is something extremely wrong with your mental faculties. Seriously, a 230-odd post, fan-boy driven debate about the Wii based on Yahtzee's comments?

Some of you need to lighten up and take the video for what it is. ;-)

 

[ElTigreNegro]

Once again, a very funny video.

But this has to be said. If you lot are actually taking these videos seriously then there is something extremely wrong with your mental faculties. Seriously, a 230-odd post, fan-boy driven debate about the Wii based on Yahtzee's comments?

Some of you need to lighten up and take the video for what it is. ;-)

It's quite clear that Yahtzee means every thing he said about the wii very seriously. Now, how the fanboys take that is another story.

 

[Zhandarr]

I have a wii, but hardenly ever go on it for reasons Yahtzee has explained. It sits next to the playstation gathering dust. I absolutely love Killzone2, but I can "kind of" see why Yahtzee can't make a full review of it. Good graphics, cool story, good gameply and combat.
But worse of all, there's nothing to hate, so that must be crap for Yahtzee.

 

[Hitmantis]

It's truly funny because it's like a little kid drinking beer trying to act all grown-up but then just puking all over himself after the first two gulps.

 

[Julius M]

I play it was a classic controllers, but if you want an example of wii remote done right take your pick from Pikmin 1 - 2, Metroid Prime 1 or 3 any and all lightgun games like house of the dead or ghost squad.

Indeed. There are also a few games where the wii-mote doesn't have that much of a benefit but it's not like it has a detrimental effect. Mario Galaxy plays fine with the Wii-mote and with a second player a wii-mote does work for the added fun.


And Brawl is played with a classic controller because there is no point in using the wii-mote.

 

[Sir_Muffonious]

Funny that the one Wii game you claim to have played alot (only one I can make that claim on too) is also one that any responsible player only plays using a gamecube controller.

I play it with the Wiimote and nunchuck and my friends (who played melee way more than I did) use the Gamecube controllers and I destroy them.

 

[civanT]

I need script of this. I can't keep up with it.

 

[Sunborn]

Blah blah blah. Developers of all types SHOULD continue to develop for the Wii, and not just shovel ware, and youngster games. The Wii is the best selling video game console month after month. It has sold the most and thus has more potential in sales than any other system. It is not made up mostly of casual gamers, but rather an extremely diverse set of users. The problem is NOT that the users are mostly these so called causal gamers. It is that there IS NO ONE MAJORITY on the Wii. Unlike the xbox360, which you may as well call the FPS Depot. It's easy to know what will sell on the 360, and face it the games being offered on there are really just clones of each other. Yahtzee rips those games apart FAR more than anything Nintendo.

PS3? It's inconsequential. If it is a model for what a good video game system should be then vacuum is a model for the best atmosphere needed to support life on earth. It's been out for a few years now, and it's still struggling to not slit it's own wrists. Why? Because the fucking 'hardcore' 'mature' gamers it's almost exclusively catering to will barely touch the damn thing!

Nintendo going out like sega? Um, huh? They should stop making video game consoles...because they are making more money then any other video game system? Because they are expanding the market by leaps and bounds? I'm sorry that it is so hard accept that Nintendo, that 'once great company that screwed up with the N64, and almost crashed and burned with the NGC' is the leader in hardware, software, and peripheral sales.

'Hardcore gamers', which I would consider myself one, our time as the main focus of the video game market is OVER. Deal with it. The market doesn't need us anymore. Oh it wants us, it wants our money, but it doesn't NEED us anymore. The video game industry is changing, in fact it never stopped. Remember when it was only okay for young kids to play video games? Well those kids grew up, then it was okay for older ones so they made more complex games. Then the kids became Teens and those games evolved in complexity and maturity. Those teens became young adults. Then middle aged people. Remember its been nearly 30 years since NES!

Those kids are now well into their thirty's, some are hitting their forties. They want to play video games still, it's what they did as a kid. They want complexity, they want something that is truly mature. Not, it has guns so it's mature. Or it has blood so it's mature. Or it's brown so it's mature. Because that isn't mature at all, it's juvenile. They want something complex so it's mature. They want something that requires their brain over their reflexes so it's mature. They also don't have time to sit down for 4-6 hours to play video games. They need simple games, games they can pick up on their lunch break, and put down before the meeting. Because they have jobs now! They are running corporations, and small business, and the government. Nintendo wanted those kids that grew up Nintendo back, most brilliant business move they EVER made. You don't like Wii? Thats fine, you don't have to. But your opinion does not change what is happening. The 'hardcore' market is shrinking. You think it's bad now, wait until the next batch of consoles come out. Sony and MS would be lunatics if they didn't start catering to the massive market that Nintendo has created. Fully expect at least Sony to do a full turn around of and copy, almost to the letter, exactly Nintendo's current business model.

With all that said, I don't like this game. I DO want a rather violent brawler game. But I'd like a few less gallons of blood and not quite so many constant screams of agony. I personally think that, perhaps, Sega went just a little too over the top.

Yahtzee. I love ya man, but back off Nintendo a little bit, eh? You are a VIDEO GAME REVIEWER. You have reviewed the Wii's -hardware- enough times already. Is it still necessary to start Wii reviews with instant Wii hardware hate rants? Is that really what people are tuning in for? Surely the game itself has enough flaws for you to rant about? It really is trite now. I'm a huge fan of your shows to you know. Wii hardware hate isn't funny anymore. It just wastes time to tell everyone the same thing. I wanted to hear about Mad World, Yahtzee, not the goddamn Wii your playing it on. It's just a little bit silly now. Heck, its even somewhat disturbing. It's like you sit in a dark closet blabbering to yourself about how it killed everyone in your family, what with it's waggles and all, and now you want revenge on it the only way you know how.

 

[Kage Me]

Though I do not own a Wii I have (as a moderate gamer) logged well over 100 hours in Fallout 3. I doubt any Wii game can do the same AND have a solid foundation of similar titles to offer.

I've probably had more than 100 hours of Brawl. It was 77 hours when I last checked, and that was well over two months ago...

Funny that the one Wii game you claim to have played alot (only one I can make that claim on too) is also one that any responsible player only plays using a gamecube controller.

Actually, I use the Wiichuck... And it works just as well.

I've probably played Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 for a good amount of hours, too. Probably not 100, but still. And in those games, the Wii controls are actually used well.

 

[fatpie42]

You have to admit he's right, having a ultra-violent game on the WII is like trying to show Ultimate Fighting on Nick for Kids, it's just not going to fly.

It seemed to work for No More Heroes and Resident Evil 4...Maybe not as violent as MW but still major earners of their M ratings.

As well as "House of the Dead: Overkill" and "Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles" (which Yahtzee actually LIKED might I remind you?)

Seriously, the Wii simply has a range of games. Admittedly a large proportion of those games don't even get reviewed on mainstream websites for the simple reason that they are clearly franchise cash-ins with no merit, but the idea that the Wii only targets children is just nonsense. (Heck, far from leaving their hardcore following who have been with them since the early 90s for a younger generation, Nintendo seem to be instead targeting middle-aged businessmen who can't find the time to get to the gym... And what businessman doesn't secretly hold the desire to rip people to pieces with their bare hands, eh?)

As for the criticism of the Wii controls, that is a very personal judgement. There were huge worries about the effectiveness of the controls when the Wii was first released and they haven't proven to be much of a concern. If the controls were as bad as Yahtzee makes out, I can't begin to imagine how he reached the end of the game. Maybe it's a problem with the way his Wii is set up?

 

[Kage Me]

...I kinda wonder if Yahtzee would enjoy the "casual" Wii games. I'd love to see a review of World of Goo myself, if only to prove the potential of Wiiware.

 

[ElTigreNegro]

Blah blah blah. Developers of all types SHOULD continue to develop for the Wii, and not just shovel ware, and youngster games. The Wii is the best selling video game console month after month. It has sold the most and thus has more potential in sales than any other system. It is not made up mostly of casual gamers, but rather an extremely diverse set of users. The problem is NOT that the users are mostly these so called causal gamers. It is that there IS NO ONE MAJORITY on the Wii. Unlike the xbox360, which you may as well call the FPS Depot. It's easy to know what will sell on the 360, and face it the games being offered on there are really just clones of each other. Yahtzee rips those games apart FAR more than anything Nintendo.

While we don't have a demographic graphic chart at hand, it's safe to say that the majority of the users of the wii are people that have never played videogames, not in a regular basis at least. The sales speak for themselves, see the numbers for something like No More Heroes, which haven't sold bad either, but put it along with something like "Carnival Games" and well, if that doesn't tell you something about the Wii's market nothing will.

PS3? It's inconsequential. If it is a model for what a good video game system should be then vacuum is a model for the best atmosphere needed to support life on earth. It's been out for a few years now, and it's still struggling to not slit it's own wrists. Why? Because the fucking 'hardcore' 'mature' gamers it's almost exclusively catering to will barely touch the damn thing!

The PS3 has been a dissapointment in several ways, but it's still selling, it still has a good share of the market, and it actually surpassed the wii some weeks ago in Japan. So, it's hardly dead already.

Nintendo going out like sega? Um, huh? They should stop making video game consoles...because they are making more money then any other video game system? Because they are expanding the market by leaps and bounds? I'm sorry that it is so hard accept that Nintendo, that 'once great company that screwed up with the N64, and almost crashed and burned with the NGC' is the leader in hardware, software, and peripheral sales.

Good sales and popularity doesn't equal good quality.

'Hardcore gamers', which I would consider myself one, our time as the main focus of the video game market is OVER. Deal with it. The market doesn't need us anymore. Oh it wants us, it wants our money, but it doesn't NEED us anymore. The video game industry is changing, in fact it never stopped. Remember when it was only okay for young kids to play video games? Well those kids grew up, then it was okay for older ones so they made more complex games. Then the kids became Teens and those games evolved in complexity and maturity. Those teens became young adults. Then middle aged people. Remember its been nearly 30 years since NES!

The days of games about slashing enemies or shooting at them are obviously not over, otherwise we wouldn't have a God of War 3, Bayonetta and other titles coming up. You might want to change "the market doesn't need us" to "Nintendo doesn't need us" because they clearly got a new audience for them. Bottom line: both factions can co-exist, people who are new to the medium and people who have been playing for a while. There is no need to replace one with another, Nintendo did prefer to choose one over another with the Wii, that's good for them, but that doesn't mean others have to follow the same path.

Those kids are now well into their thirty's, some are hitting their forties. They want to play video games still, it's what they did as a kid. They want complexity, they want something that is truly mature. Not, it has guns so it's mature. Or it has blood so it's mature. Or it's brown so it's mature. Because that isn't mature at all, it's juvenile. They want something complex so it's mature. They want something that requires their brain over their reflexes so it's mature. They also don't have time to sit down for 4-6 hours to play video games. They need simple games, games they can pick up on their lunch break, and put down before the meeting. Because they have jobs now! They are running corporations, and small business, and the government. Nintendo wanted those kids that grew up Nintendo back, most brilliant business move they EVER made. You don't like Wii? Thats fine, you don't have to. But your opinion does not change what is happening. The 'hardcore' market is shrinking. You think it's bad now, wait until the next batch of consoles come out. Sony and MS would be lunatics if they didn't start catering to the massive market that Nintendo has created. Fully expect at least Sony to do a full turn around of and copy, almost to the letter, exactly Nintendo's current business model.

Exactly what is complex about games like Wii fit, wii sports or wii play? I frankly fail to see the complexity of said titles.

With all that said, I don't like this game. I DO want a rather violent brawler game. But I'd like a few less gallons of blood and not quite so many constant screams of agony. I personally think that, perhaps, Sega went just a little too over the top.

That's the idea of this game, being over the top in a very absurd way. It's violence taked with a dose of black humour. Not in a crudea realistic way.

Yahtzee. I love ya man, but back off Nintendo a little bit, eh? You are a VIDEO GAME REVIEWER. You have reviewed the Wii's -hardware- enough times already. Is it still necessary to start Wii reviews with instant Wii hardware hate rants? Is that really what people are tuning in for? Surely the game itself has enough flaws for you to rant about? It really is trite now. I'm a huge fan of your shows to you know. Wii hardware hate isn't funny anymore. It just wastes time to tell everyone the same thing. I wanted to hear about Mad World, Yahtzee, not the goddamn Wii your playing it on. It's just a little bit silly now. Heck, its even somewhat disturbing. It's like you sit in a dark closet blabbering to yourself about how it killed everyone in your family, what with it's waggles and all, and now you want revenge on it the only way you know how.

It's Yahtzee's show, he can review and rant about whatever he wants. If he still has something to say about the Wii i don't see why he should contain himfself. He's not reviewing a wii game every week.

 

[Pimppeter2]

Good game, better review

 

[SoonerMatt]

And here I thought I was the only one not hyped about this game. The art concept seemed cool, but I can't say I'm surprised the game started getting dull after a while.