Zero Punctuation: Mailbag Showdown

[disposable157]

I thought G31t's summary of the situation was a good one. Ignoring the quality of the game, I am not a Nintendo fanboy, I think the Wii is a stupid name and I dislike games such as Metroid Prime 3 and Zelda: Twilight princess but I like Brawl and I object to being called a fanboy on that basis...

The barb is particularly sharp because calling someone a fanboy is pretty much the worst insult on the internet.

 

[Fury-Genesis]

Hah! Neat.

I still wonder why people insist on taking Yahtzee's "reviews" so seriously.

 

[xanrethan]

My own takeaway from the whole ordeal: A mediocre party game was trashed and fans tried weakly to rationalize their purchase by either discrediting Yahtzee (though he has not made any claims to his own skill, instead, lets his sharp wit do the talking for him) or trying to assert their opinion on the good aspects of SSBB in some malformed hope this might superimpose itself upon Yahtzee's opinion. This led to much drama and now this, which is only fueling the fanboy fire.

Have i encapsulated the gist of all 1500 posts without reading them? Or am I missing something? :3

That's a fairly good assessment of the situation except for two things. Regardless of whether Brawl is mediocre or not, it isn't just a party game. It can be a party game if it's set up in a certain way, but it turns into a very deep fighter if you set it up a different way. In other words, it's versatile. The huge tournament community set up around Melee, the previous game in the series, should be enough evidence for anyone that the game's depth goes far beyond a simple party game. There are plenty of Youtube videos of matches between pros, and the things they do are far beyond anything a beginning player could hope to do.

Secondly, many of the people who dislike Brawl have never played it. Their hate seems to stem more from the fact that it says "Nintendo" on it than from any of the legitimate flaws the game actually has. In the same vein, Yahtzee played the game and gave it a bad review. People aren't pissed that he didn't like it; they're pissed that he went on to say, "Not only is this a bad game, only extremely ignorant people will like this game. Since the game has no other redeeming features, liking it is evidence that you're a fanboy. Not liking it is evidence of enlightenment."

People are pissed because (in general) they don't like being insulted. Yahtzee's review lumps the people who like Brawl as a legitimate fighting game in with the fanboys that everyone is so quick to disparage. It doesn't create a middle ground where people can agree to disagree, and that's why people are pissed off.

Hmm. So i read a couple of the last posts in the last little bit and I agree partly with what you said before and here. Specifically, that his review may have extended somewhat to it's fanbase. However, the thing I have a problem with is that this clearly ad hominem argument made by a reviewer well known for exaggeration (If this is your first review that you've seen, then perhaps you may not have known, but because you mention Halo 3 in a previous post, I assume you've seen at least enough to know this). He bashes game companies and gamers alike. That I liked Halo was irrelevant, I thought it was a funny review and I've been watching them since, albeit somewhat quietly. The 1000 post sensation is what it took for me to come out of hiding and give my share of a round of applause for Yahtzee. Whether you view his opinions of SSBB (and by extension, it's fanbase, as described and crudely lumped together by him) as a Self-Fulfilling prophesy or merely inflammatory is irrelevant. He clearly wants traffic, so the worst thing any individual could do to him at this point is stop watching altogether.

The second thing I don't quite understand are tourneyf... players. A game that is hyped and released as a party game being simultaneously treated as a serious fighter somewhat irks me; much the same way as it would if someone were to defend, say, Half Life 2 from his rant, trying to state how one can use the physics engine in a Gary's Mod sort of way to make their own physics puzzles as a sort of defense against any ill he may have had against the single player campaign. Granted this example is slightly weak due to my current fatigue, but I hope you understand the point I'm getting at: He played the game as a party game and reviewed it as a party game. Trying to look at it from a different perspective to argue his is a bit contrived.

For the record, i've played brawl, melee and the original. My favorite, honestly, was the first one. There wasn't any real reason I could think of for not liking melee as much. It's practically the same game with more bells and whistles. Granted he didn't mention not playing the previous two games, like he had mentioned in reviewing Halo 3 outright, you could at least infer it from his mention of confusion surrounding Marth.

 

[g31st]

Ok, lets leave the issue of whether or not brawl is good or bad - its all personal and subjective. I do have to say that you've read wayyyyyy to much into the last statement he made on the SSBB - he says IF you are a fanboy of Nintendo, you WILL then enjoy it irregardless of whatever the game is like. I.e. A => B, not B => A. He's not saying IF you like SSBB, your a fanboy.

Anywho... I wonder if the post count here will exceed the SSBB one?

You can imply a lot without being explicit. That's what masters of language are good at.

It's easy enough to examine the logic regarding the last bit of the video. Your logic regarding his words is correct. If you look at the images in the video, there's a gleeful fanboy with the words "HURR HURR IGNORANCE" over his head while Yahtzee's disparaging the fanboys who like Brawl "whatever its faults". Even though you can't logically get "if you like SSBB, you're a fanboy" from his words, the image says pretty clearly that the group of people who do like Brawl "don't get it" at best and are borderline retarded at worst. So, someone who's not a fanboy and who's asking themselves "Would I like Brawl?" need only ask themselves, "Do I get games?" or "Am I borderline retarded?" What do you suppose their answer would be?

In addition, I'm not sure if you remember, but there was an earlier part in the review where he was talking about "that guy". In that section of the review, he said that anyone who cared enough about playing Brawl to become good at it would seek out other "that guys" for the sake of some competition, and at that point they were lost to the bleak world of fanboyness forever. Even if you want to insist that the last bit of his review didn't imply that only fanboys could like Brawl, the part about "that guy" did. According to Yahtzee's review, it's impossible to become both good at the game and not be a rabid Nintendo fanboy.

 

[Kaos Incarnate]

Ok, lets leave the issue of whether or not brawl is good or bad - its all personal and subjective. I do have to say that you've read wayyyyyy to much into the last statement he made on the SSBB - he says IF you are a fanboy of Nintendo, you WILL then enjoy it irregardless of whatever the game is like. I.e. A => B, not B => A. He's not saying IF you like SSBB, your a fanboy.

Anywho... I wonder if the post count here will exceed the SSBB one?

You can imply a lot without being explicit. That's what masters of language are good at.

It's easy enough to examine the logic regarding the last bit of the video. Your logic regarding his words is correct. If you look at the images in the video, there's a gleeful fanboy with the words "HURR HURR IGNORANCE" over his head while Yahtzee's disparaging the fanboys who like Brawl "whatever its faults". Even though you can't logically get "if you like SSBB, you're a fanboy" from his words, the image says pretty clearly that the group of people who do like Brawl "don't get it" at best and are borderline retarded at worst. So, someone who's not a fanboy and who's asking themselves "Would I like Brawl?" need only ask themselves, "Do I get games?" or "Am I borderline retarded?" What do you suppose their answer would be?

In addition, I'm not sure if you remember, but there was an earlier part in the review where he was talking about "that guy". In that section of the review, he said that anyone who cared enough about playing Brawl to become good at it would seek out other "that guys" for the sake of some competition, and at that point they were lost to the bleak world of fanboyness forever. Even if you want to insist that the last bit of his review didn't imply that only fanboys could like Brawl, the part about "that guy" did. According to Yahtzee's review, it's impossible to become both good at the game and not be a rabid Nintendo fanboy.

I didn't play the life out of Melee when that was out, so I assume it will be the same for Brawl.

 

[Kaos Incarnate]

sorry for the repost

 

[MrSod]

Hahahha another hilarous video- Yahtzee truly reminds me of my idol: Edmund Blackadder.
My favorite parts were probably Guantanamo Bay and being a Professional Troll. Hilarious.

 

[Mythbhavd]

You can certainly say that, but I disagree. Yahtzee did not address many of the more valid points in his "showdown". Like I said, since its his inbox, he could cherry pick the emails to make the "opposition" seem like total twats, and that's what happened. I didn't read the entire Brawl review thread (christ, but it's long), but there were a few things I spotted that were not in his latest video at all. For instance, he did not address his incorrect factual statement about having to play the single player to unlock everything. It's just not true, and he didn't own up to it at all. Maybe he can't admit when he makes mistakes.

He also claimed (more than once) that Brawl is a button masher and that no amount of practice would ensure your victory over someone slapping their palms against their controller. If you remember, he went into a big long rant about becoming "that guy" only to say, "but that doesn't happen in this game". Naturally, I don't know what's in his inbox, but you'd have to be crazy to claim that there wasn't a single email saying something to the effect of, "The fighting system in Brawl rewards patience and timing and punishes people who randomly mash buttons. As a matter of fact, it's even possible to kill yourself if you mash the wrong buttons. There's a shield button which thwarts almost every attempt at button mashing, and skilled players will be good at 1.) knowing when holes appear in their foe's defenses and 2.) exploiting them. If you really think this game is a button masher, why not go one on one versus a pro player? You should be able to win half the time, right?"

The majority of the posts I saw "defending" Brawl said something to that effect, and it's true. Anyone who's played the game seriously will tell you the same thing, yet Yahtzee gleefully glossed over anything of the sort in his "showdown". As a matter of fact, most of the emails were to the effect of, "You hateful person. Why don't you like anything? You always just point out the bad stuff in games," which is more a statement of the obvious rather than any sort of defense. Granted, if one side can choose what the other side says, it's not going to be much of a debate in the first place.

Be glad you didn't follow the whole Brawl thread. It was brain numbing at times. However, you didn't follow my argument here. The majority of the posts either pro-ssbb or anti-ssbb could be summed up in the emails he criticized. I could care less whether his points in the review of the game were valid or not. I've always enjoyed the SSB franchise and am sure that I will until the day that Nintendo decides to stop adding to it. Which, with its current success, will be the day after never. So, I have no need to debate you on that matter.

What I was stating is that a large number of the posts made in the SSBB review and this one have one thing in common. They could be summarized by those emails that he chose for his responses in his most recent post. There were indeed some well reasoned responses to his review, but they were by far in the minority. There were also some well reasoned responses to those who didn't like his review, but again, they were by far the minority.

The case, for me, isn't that he chose not to answer those with valid critiques. He never does. It is that he chose to make fun of those people who chose to dive off the cliff into the raging sea of insane raving. Just as he caricatured those who rabidly disagreed with him, he could have as easily caricatured those who rabidly defended him and it would have been equally as funny. I thought of both groups while watching the video and laughed accordingly.

Being a fanboy of something is bad, right? If you're going to lend any credence to 90% of this thread, fanboys are one of the lowest forms of vertebrate lifeforms on the internet. My memory may be hazy, but I don't think I've seen a single post in this thread so far which a.) mentions fanboys and b.) doesn't disparage them in some way.

You said that he claimed his review wouldn't matter because people already knew if they liked the game. That's true, but here's the actual quote:

"Reviewing Smash Bros. Brawl is pointless. There's a simple test. When the name Nintendo Wii was first revealed, did you ever seriously try to defend it on an internet forum? If yes, you will enjoy this game whatever its faults and you might as well start spamming my email address with hatred right now you miserable. fanboy. twat."

At the same time as he was speaking these words, there was a picture of a Wii player gleefully unaware that his T.V. was on fire and another in front of a computer with the words "HUR HUR IGNORANCE" above his head.

A bit more than merely saying, "My review won't change your opinion," he says, "Not only will my review not change your opinion, if you like the game you will hate me for giving it a bad review, because there's no other reason that you would like the game other than the fact that you enjoy Nintendo wanking off in your face. You're gleefully ignorant of what's really going on, because anyone with a brain would know that this game has almost no redeeming features." Forget any kind of middle ground that allows for someone who isn't a fanboy to enjoy the game because it's a good fighting game. Yahtzee's review immediately polarizes the entire world into two categories - the ignorant twats who like Brawl, and the enlightened few who can see Brawl for what it really is. Hell, he even plays Green Day's "Minority" at the end of his review. There really isn't a better way to make people angry than drawing a line in the sand, especially if there doesn't need to be one in the first place.

Let's say for a minute that what he said is true. Pretend that the people who play Brawl and Melee only play it because it's a Nintendo game with Nintendo characters in it. If you remember, he asked why unlocking Marth was such a big deal in his review. The truth is, Marth was considered a "top tier" character along with a handful of others in Melee, meaning that he was one of the best characters to use in professional play due to his speed and fighting style. Almost every tournament player learned to use Marth, and I can assure you it wasn't because they were all Fire Emblem 1 fanboys. Leaving him out would have pissed off the old Melee players to no end, because his style of fighting was very much about speed, technique and control, and it proved to be one of the most effective ones in tournament play. If Brawl's only appeal is fanservice, why the hell would people be so nuts about a no-name character?

Long story short: If the requisite for liking Brawl is being a Nintendo fanboy, and I like Brawl, it must mean I'm a Nintendo fanboy, which is both insulting and an unfair representation of the game as a whole.

Ok, I will concede this point...to a point. However, I would say that liking the game would not necessarily make a person a fanboy or fangirl. In fact, even being a fan of the game wouldn't qualify. When I think of fanboy and fangirl, I think of those people of whom he made fun in his response. Fanboys and fangirls are those who have taken the aforementioned dive off the cliff and submerged themselves in the sea of insane raving. With that said, you must admit that many of those who have hit the forums after the SSB review and are still going on in this one do fall under the derogatory term of fanboy/fangirl. If those were unedited mails to him, then I'd definitely file them under the fanboy rating. Of course, the biggest fanboy in this discussion is Yahtzee himself. There's no bigger fan of Yahtzee who is willing to go to insane lengths to defend Yahtzee than Yahtzee himself.

Wait a minute...I know what's going on here! I'm getting sucked into a he-said, she-said argument! Lol! Bad g31st! No donut for you!

It's okay, I had some last weekend.

You had donuts! Bummer, wish I had some!

You're a growed up and you can go watch the Halo 3 review and look for a similar quote in that video. Don't be surprised if you don't find one.

No need to get snide. Let's keep this civil. And, ironically, I did watch it just before I read your reply. While I dislike the halo series with a passion, I went to watch the video again to see if he was as rabid against the fanboys of Halo (many of whom seemed to lay low during the response period in the forum) as he was against those of SSBB. He definitely wasn't, although he was expecting much the same response. It's apparent from his reference to fanboys widdling in his mail slot.

As I said before, "let's get back to the good old weeks when we could watch a review, laugh about it, and discuss it like the reasonably well-adjusted crazy people we are."

I agree. That's the reason I like Yahtzee. At the same time, I'm not a rabid fanboy. I've never tried to proselytize Brawl to anyone, and I've never gotten on anyone's case who's played it and decided they didn't like it. Despite all of this, Yahtzee's review told me that by liking the game (for whatever reason), I was one of those unholy fanboys that people are so keen to hate. Maybe I'm in the minority who doesn't just lay down while someone who I've never even met in real life tells me I'm an ignorant twat for liking a certain video game.

I would certainly classify you as a fan; perhaps even a rabid fan (knowing the stats of which character the majority of professional gamers choose frightens me...of course, I can be as rabid with Star Trek: TOS, so go figure). Based on your response, though, I wouldn't say you were a fanboy. Just someone who really likes the game. So, I don't even know that you'd follow under his classification of a fanboy (one who has seriously devoted themselves to defending the WII online (or as I took it, diving into the sea of raging insanity)).

hey, look, someone with a brain ^^ *makes snapshot before it goes away*
anyone ever noticed btw that all the people who don't like brawl, and i do mean like, 70-80% at least ( so okay, not all :\ ) have never actually PLAYED brawl ?

That seems to be true of several of the games I've seen reviewed on here. Of course, I've seen quite a few defenders of a game who haven't played it yet either.

On another note, I found this quote in the Halo 3 section from Zera from back in October and in light of the recent two forums worth of trolling found it funny:

Well this site is probably the most intelligent when it comes to gaming. You shouldn't find any trolls here.

You spoke too soon, Zera! )

 

[Sousakuryoku]

I really don't even understand the point of those fanboys harassing you. It's not as if what they say will somehow get under your hat and force you to enjoy this game. They're probably the same people who campaign their bricked 360 while automatically calling me a fanboy for owning a PS3 just because I like buying a system that doesn't need 9 attachments to make it whole.

While I do enjoy SSBB myself, it's mostly because there isn't much on my PS3 that I can play with the people around me who aren't as good at gaming. I am not a fanboy of it (or Mario Kart Wii) and agree with most of the faults Yahtzee talked about. What he didn't mention was the scenario where you are wanting to play with a girlfriend, sibling, maybe even parent who wants a simple and fun game you can all play together on the Wii. Isn't that what Wii's are intended to do? However, Yahtzee is a serious game reviewer, thus he is looking for a different game and this is the kind of review we can expect from him.

 

[Zekko5]

I couldn't help but notice:

It took the fanboys a full week to get together 1100 posts of flame against Yahtzee.

It took the anti-fanboys ±18 hours to get together 600+ posts of celebrating Yahtzee's brilliant defense.

dats no fair it takes mutch longur to rite construktif kritisiesm dan just sayin it is gud!11!!

AHAHAHAHHAHAAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...*snort*...yeah...

 

[Mythbhavd]

I couldn't help but notice:

It took the fanboys a full week to get together 1100 posts of flame against Yahtzee.

It took the anti-fanboys ±18 hours to get together 600+ posts of celebrating Yahtzee's brilliant defense.

dats no fair it takes mutch longur to rite construktif kritisiesm dan just sayin it is gud!11!!

AHAHAHAHHAHAAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...*snort*...yeah...

The two forums are almost neck to neck for the first 18+ hours of posting. This one has about a 60-70post lead over the same hour in the Brawl one, so it's not quite as out of proportion as you make it appear. But, it looks like this one is raging out of control in a manner that will match the SSBB forum or, perhaps, bypass it unless some sanity is restored. And in an effort to do so, anyone for a game of Pitfall?

 

[GumbaMasta]

Eh, I only planned to get Brawl so I could drool over Princes Peach's panties anyway.

 

[TheIceface]

Alright, I may agree with a lot of what Mr. Croshaw has to say, so his SSBB review caught my eye. He didn't like it, and he had some very legitimate reasons for his standing. However, I also take into account that he has a different taste in games than I do, I've been a fan of SSB since the 64 version of the game.

So, long story short, I take his review into consideration, but I'm still going to have to play the game for myself to decide if I like it or not.

The majority of the people who comment here make me sick. A bunch of lemmings dribbling saliva covered comments about how they love Yahtzee and build shrines to him 'cause he is the next big thing. I think a big point of the latest video is that he is just giving his opinion, not trying to dictate what you should like or not, and unfortunately, that seems to be what most gamers today want. Someone telling them what to play or not.

I appreciate the review, but I'll have to try the game myself.

 

[Sayvara]

Oh. My. God. I never thought I would see that day, but 'lo and behold, here is the proof... there are something worse than...

Oh, maybe this requires a bit of explanation before I reveal the conclusion.

John Ronald Reuel Tolkien is one of the main founders of modern fantasy literature. With his "Lord of the Rings" saga he has forever created the classic image of high fantasy worlds with elves, orcs, mithril armors and +5 Item of Friggn' Awesome. This has gained him and his works an almost deitific status by a surprising amount of fanboys (for an author). And these guys do not take lightly to someone not being of Pure & True Beliefs.

To exemplify: I once suggested an RP scenario to use in Lord of the Rings Online... and in a response time that proves that information can move faster than light, I was flamed to a cinder by Tolkienites who argued that while my scenario was plausable by logic and sound reasoning, I was still wrong, essentially "Just Because...".

For a while I concluded that there are (in rising order of zeal): Enthusiasts, Fanboys and Tolkien Worshippers... that the epitome of obsessive-abusive nerdjerks was tolkienites.

That is until now. I have found something worse. There is something even more zealous and rabid than Tolkienites. And that is...

Nintendo fanboys

With the response to the last two reviews I would like to heartilly congratulate you on embrassaing yourselves to infamy, You Miserable Fanboy Twats!

/S

 

[kbandressen]

Not gonna bother reading the 600+ posts as I can pretty much guess what they're like. I love Brawl's multiplayer but agree with most of Yahtzee's complaints in the original video. This video was definitely funny, but fanboys being retards is nothing new. Hoping ZP will be back to normal next week.

 

[Kaos Incarnate]

Oh. My. God. I never thought I would see that day, but 'lo and behold, here is the proof... there are something worse than...

Oh, maybe this requires a bit of explanation before I reveal the conclusion.

John Ronald Reuel Tolkien is one of the main founders of modern fantasy literature. With his "Lord of the Rings" saga he has forever created the classic image of high fantasy worlds with elves, orcs, mithril armors and +5 Item of Friggn' Awesome. This has gained him and his works an almost deitific status by a surprising amount of fanboys (for an author). And these guys do not take lightly to someone not being of Pure & True Beliefs.

To exemplify: I once suggested an RP scenario to use in Lord of the Rings Online... and in a response time that proves that information can move faster than light, I was flamed to a cinder by Tolkienites who argued that while my scenario was plausable by logic and sound reasoning, I was still wrong, essentially "Just Because...".

For a while I concluded that there are (in rising order of zeal): Enthusiasts, Fanboys and Tolkien Worshippers... that the epitome of obsessive-abusive nerdjerks was tolkienites.

That is until now. I have found something worse. There is something even more zealous and rabid than Tolkienites. And that is...

Nintendo fanboys

With the response to the last two reviews I would like to heartilly congratulate you on embrassaing yourselves to infamy, You Miserable Fanboy Twats!

/S

To be honest he picked out the worst of the worst, there are people who discuss things rationally and explain why they like it, I know it won't change Yahtzee's view on it, but at least it will allow him to respect their differences in preference.

 

[Doug]

Ok, lets leave the issue of whether or not brawl is good or bad - its all personal and subjective. I do have to say that you've read wayyyyyy to much into the last statement he made on the SSBB - he says IF you are a fanboy of Nintendo, you WILL then enjoy it irregardless of whatever the game is like. I.e. A => B, not B => A. He's not saying IF you like SSBB, your a fanboy.

Anywho... I wonder if the post count here will exceed the SSBB one?

You can imply a lot without being explicit. That's what masters of language are good at.

It's easy enough to examine the logic regarding the last bit of the video. Your logic regarding his words is correct. If you look at the images in the video, there's a gleeful fanboy with the words "HURR HURR IGNORANCE" over his head while Yahtzee's disparaging the fanboys who like Brawl "whatever its faults". Even though you can't logically get "if you like SSBB, you're a fanboy" from his words, the image says pretty clearly that the group of people who do like Brawl "don't get it" at best and are borderline retarded at worst. So, someone who's not a fanboy and who's asking themselves "Would I like Brawl?" need only ask themselves, "Do I get games?" or "Am I borderline retarded?" What do you suppose their answer would be?

In addition, I'm not sure if you remember, but there was an earlier part in the review where he was talking about "that guy". In that section of the review, he said that anyone who cared enough about playing Brawl to become good at it would seek out other "that guys" for the sake of some competition, and at that point they were lost to the bleak world of fanboyness forever. Even if you want to insist that the last bit of his review didn't imply that only fanboys could like Brawl, the part about "that guy" did. According to Yahtzee's review, it's impossible to become both good at the game and not be a rabid Nintendo fanboy.

Ok, seriously, your doing it again - your assuming because he had an image of a fanboy with "hur-hur-ignorance" that he thinks people who like Brawl are ignorant. NO! He thinks fanboys are ignorant. He thinks fanboys don't bother about the quality of the game or if they enjoy playing it. Hence, ignorant...

You can imply a lot without being explicit. That's what masters of language are good at.

Of for the.... this is up there with the 'god moves in mysterious ways' argument. You can't fault it directly, but it can be used to justify anything. Its like the conspiracy theorists , or the people who take the Da-Vinci code seriously. If your argument ultimately boils down to 'well, he sounded like he was insulting me and/or others who enjoyed the game' then you've taken the review of SSBB way to seriously

 

[Doug]

Oh. My. God. I never thought I would see that day, but 'lo and behold, here is the proof... there are something worse than...

Oh, maybe this requires a bit of explanation before I reveal the conclusion.

John Ronald Reuel Tolkien is one of the main founders of modern fantasy literature. With his "Lord of the Rings" saga he has forever created the classic image of high fantasy worlds with elves, orcs, mithril armors and +5 Item of Friggn' Awesome. This has gained him and his works an almost deitific status by a surprising amount of fanboys (for an author). And these guys do not take lightly to someone not being of Pure & True Beliefs.

To exemplify: I once suggested an RP scenario to use in Lord of the Rings Online... and in a response time that proves that information can move faster than light, I was flamed to a cinder by Tolkienites who argued that while my scenario was plausable by logic and sound reasoning, I was still wrong, essentially "Just Because...".

For a while I concluded that there are (in rising order of zeal): Enthusiasts, Fanboys and Tolkien Worshippers... that the epitome of obsessive-abusive nerdjerks was tolkienites.

That is until now. I have found something worse. There is something even more zealous and rabid than Tolkienites. And that is...

Nintendo fanboys

With the response to the last two reviews I would like to heartilly congratulate you on embrassaing yourselves to infamy, You Miserable Fanboy Twats!

/S

*grins* I love that. And Tolkiens books were ok, but *meh* on readability - way too much in terms of overlong names, multiple names, and ancient histories for me - not implying anyone else before the flames attack me, heh. That said, the films were pretty good, as they cut it down to a managable fiction.

 

[Daegen]

FYI Spell-checker, 'favourite' is spelled with a 'u' and there is no 'z' in 'customise'

American spelling is different from Canadian. Canada spells many words with a "u", such as neighbour, colour, favourite, etc. I think the "z" is Canadian too - I have my Microsoft Word set to Canadian English, and it's showing that "customize" is acceptable. Maybe some British spellings are the same as Canadian?

Speaking as a Canadian, I can tell you that they are In fact the spelling for both our versions of english is the same. British and Canadian I mean. Which makes sense as we're part of the Commonwealth.

Anyways, Yahtzee takes home the gold again. I thought that was pretty funny.

 

[McMo0^]

i suppose the best part about all this is that yahtzee got the excact assault he was expecting. Seriously what were people expecting from him. People always comment on party games and how you can't think they're good till you play then with 20 other people, but you obviously have no friends outside the internet ROFLMAO1111!!!!one...

Yahtzee described it best when he said the only way to get the good shit out of this game is by playing it on your own for a brain mangling amount of hours... then you become "that guy". I know because i became that guy at Tekken. And i'm pretty sure all the game designers who make these generic fighters are the same because generally the moves for near all characters are the same. Every single character has a special move based on ha-do-ken's buttons. i can't comment on ssbb because i haven't played it. All the people i know who went mental over wii sports and its "EPIC" gaming revolution have added the wii to the closet collection already, you know the closet with you megadrive and nes, and to a lesser extent c64/spectrum. The gimmic that is the wii never took off, mainly because game developers probably couldn't be bothered, or it was simply to hard to make something spectacular with the motion sensor control pads of wonder...

i've gone a wii rant. Well done fanboys on your consistant ability to give me something to laugh at.

For the record, if you don't like yahtzee's reviews, don't watch them.