Played it once, not gonna play it again in a looong while, but eventually I'll probably do. Just like my relationship to lasagne hence: Mass Effect 2 = lasagne
Zero Punctuation: Mass Effect 2
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Heh, it's so easy to take a shot at the mining. And that's because it really does suck. Yes, you can skip it... but life becomes difficult if you do and certain allies get pasted at the end of the game. I'm about to play through with a different ME1 character, but I've been reluctant to because I have all that planet scanning ahead of me. I'll take that over driving the mako any day of the week though.
All in all, a humorous review. Not as funny as his first ME review, but then that game had more to complain about. (I personally love both)
All in all, a humorous review. Not as funny as his first ME review, but then that game had more to complain about. (I personally love both)
I played it. Once. The game is too much like a #&*$ JOB.
I mean, it's the year somethousand, and they have AI smarter than people, and they can't have the computer tediously scan the whole planet and show me where the resources and landing spots are? There are some resource drops, but far too little to afford any upgrades. I'd stripped most of the planets bare by the end of the game, and I still hadn't 'unlocked' upgrades.
10% combat & exploration, 60% groping planets with a cursor, 10% stuck in endless conversation trees, 20% wandering around lost. Nothing like upgrading the armor of a whole space ship for 15,000 Platinum, then later in the game spending 25,000 platinum to upgrade a single shotgun for a single character, to try to unlock more useful upgrades to make all of that repetitive, tedious planet groping seem worthwhile. And then dealing with crew members who can't get along as part of the game?
And another thing that I haven't seen in a while... SWAPPING DISKS. WTF? (XBOX 360) Time to get up and put a different disk in the drive? AGAIN? Naturally the fact that I had 'installed' the first disk to the hard drive didn't matter ('Dirty Disk' error - yay) when it came time to put disk 1 back in again, just like an old S.O.L. game on floppies.
Fortunately, I got it used. I'd take it back to gamestop, but the trade-in valus is already below $10 (and as usual, the 'used' retail price is 5x as high as the trade-in), because this game has no replay appeal, and people were already bringing it back the first week. I finished, and I was done, and I don't want to ever play it again. A friend of mine wants to see it, so I'll mail it to him and let him keep it.
Bioshock 3 was definitely WAY better, took almost as long to play, fit on one disk, and didn't leave me feeling like I was polishing big turd balls for a living... and I'll play it more than once.
I mean, it's the year somethousand, and they have AI smarter than people, and they can't have the computer tediously scan the whole planet and show me where the resources and landing spots are? There are some resource drops, but far too little to afford any upgrades. I'd stripped most of the planets bare by the end of the game, and I still hadn't 'unlocked' upgrades.
10% combat & exploration, 60% groping planets with a cursor, 10% stuck in endless conversation trees, 20% wandering around lost. Nothing like upgrading the armor of a whole space ship for 15,000 Platinum, then later in the game spending 25,000 platinum to upgrade a single shotgun for a single character, to try to unlock more useful upgrades to make all of that repetitive, tedious planet groping seem worthwhile. And then dealing with crew members who can't get along as part of the game?
And another thing that I haven't seen in a while... SWAPPING DISKS. WTF? (XBOX 360) Time to get up and put a different disk in the drive? AGAIN? Naturally the fact that I had 'installed' the first disk to the hard drive didn't matter ('Dirty Disk' error - yay) when it came time to put disk 1 back in again, just like an old S.O.L. game on floppies.
Fortunately, I got it used. I'd take it back to gamestop, but the trade-in valus is already below $10 (and as usual, the 'used' retail price is 5x as high as the trade-in), because this game has no replay appeal, and people were already bringing it back the first week. I finished, and I was done, and I don't want to ever play it again. A friend of mine wants to see it, so I'll mail it to him and let him keep it.
Bioshock 3 was definitely WAY better, took almost as long to play, fit on one disk, and didn't leave me feeling like I was polishing big turd balls for a living... and I'll play it more than once.
Ehhh,
Well I can agree with the review on some levels but in the end my tastes are very differant from Yahtzee's. For example I preferred the game as an RPG and I like inventory management and being able to equip my various characters and such, as well as leveling up and distributing stat points and the like.
My big problem with ME 2 was that it became too much of a shooter, and not enough of an RPG.
I had no fundemental problem with the vehicle sections or inventory management, but felt both needed an overhaul. Rather than improving the systems, like say using a Knights Of The Old Republic-type equipment system, and adding more stuff to do with your vehicles besides roll around looking for salvage (and perhaps adding vehicle-specific skills, equipment, and customization).
I'm not a twitch maniac, I like crafting, exploration, and doing things like gathering minerals that do not fall off the bodies of your slain opponents. However I do not believe that this has to be made horrendously boring. If anything the scanning system in ME 2 was a step backwards because at least with the Mako in the first game I would get to shoot the occasional scavenger, or giant Dune inspired worm.
What's more I did not like the way exps were only awarded for completing missions, I like getting exps from killing my enemies and performing other actions, besides quests/missions. They should have simply put more possible levels to achieve in the game (along with far more skills) and let you level up by shooting stuff and exploring. I personally think someone who spends more time doing this stuff should have higher level and more powerful characters that someone who can't pay attention to anything except for the most obvious aspects of the missions and whatever happens to walk through his gunsight while taking the most direct path to the finish point.
Well I can agree with the review on some levels but in the end my tastes are very differant from Yahtzee's. For example I preferred the game as an RPG and I like inventory management and being able to equip my various characters and such, as well as leveling up and distributing stat points and the like.
My big problem with ME 2 was that it became too much of a shooter, and not enough of an RPG.
I had no fundemental problem with the vehicle sections or inventory management, but felt both needed an overhaul. Rather than improving the systems, like say using a Knights Of The Old Republic-type equipment system, and adding more stuff to do with your vehicles besides roll around looking for salvage (and perhaps adding vehicle-specific skills, equipment, and customization).
I'm not a twitch maniac, I like crafting, exploration, and doing things like gathering minerals that do not fall off the bodies of your slain opponents. However I do not believe that this has to be made horrendously boring. If anything the scanning system in ME 2 was a step backwards because at least with the Mako in the first game I would get to shoot the occasional scavenger, or giant Dune inspired worm.
What's more I did not like the way exps were only awarded for completing missions, I like getting exps from killing my enemies and performing other actions, besides quests/missions. They should have simply put more possible levels to achieve in the game (along with far more skills) and let you level up by shooting stuff and exploring. I personally think someone who spends more time doing this stuff should have higher level and more powerful characters that someone who can't pay attention to anything except for the most obvious aspects of the missions and whatever happens to walk through his gunsight while taking the most direct path to the finish point.
Love isn't a rational thing, stranger things have happend than that relationship if you pursue it.blalien said:
Though honestly, I just had this wierd though about someone falling in love with a Medusan in Star Trek.
Yahtzee review made me laugh as usual, but again, as usual, I disagree with the majority of what he said. I'm one of the few who actually miss the Mako and world exploring. Yes the controls were horrid, but fix them a bit and I think most would stop complaining.
Don't worry people, the planet exploring will be back as DLC with the Hammerhead Hovercraft. Just hold onto your knickers.
Awesome. Laser wolves. They should be in every game.[sub][sub]along with a walrus shooting gun[/sub][/sub]
Objection! A game lacking game mechanics and that is more or less just a novel hardly qualifies for giving "atmosphere due to the interactivity" since they have next to no interactivity at all. People nowadays seem to misunderstand what "interactivity" means. It's not having the choice to use phrase A or phrase B when the rest is all running along a red line.Sexy Guy said:
Of course, I must have sucked at driving the mako, especially when I would go over peaks and the mako would land and randomly decide to turn completely around. Yep, definitely my fault, and something that had absolutely nothing to do with the crappy implementation. /sarcasmcanadamus_prime said:
In all seriousness thought, it kind of does matter if it was a tank or an APC, since you don't expect much out of a tank in the way of handling, but an APC is expected to have a decent amount of handling. Ok, maybe the mako's handling isn't quite as bad as an epileptic waiter at a rave, and no one expected the perfect handling you talked about, but to say that the mako's handling was good is far from the truth.
I didn't say it had perfect handling, I was saying it handled about as well as I would've expected considering the type of vehicle we were driving and the terrain we were driving on.7ru7h said:
Actually, BioWare is going to bring back planet exploration through DLC. I just hope that it ends up being better than the Mako.