Zero Punctuation: Red Dead Redemption

[Spydiggity]

game number 3 we disagree on, 2 in the same night. while i share many of your observations, there are many things which i'm willing to overlook in favor of ambition. it's innovation that the industry needs, and these things provide it.

yeah glitches exist...it's a huge, multilayered, open world game.

story is interesting, gameplay is mostly fun, unfavorable glitches are few, and your mom is..well...a slut. works out well for us all, and for 60 dollars you can and have done worse...your "mum" excluded.

 

[Slipslop]

I really love how Yahtzee thinks, the summary of this game really hit it on the nail, "a beautiful timesink". But if you like the GTA style gameplay, this game is absolutely worth getting, i played through it and i enjoyed it.

 

[bossfight1]

So this means no cross dressing competition between this and Call of Hwarez?

 

[lonercs]

He shouldn't ***** about travel time in a game that offers free instant travel.

What the options that is easily missed? I realized that I could travel to my waypoint with camping and coaches after I beat the game and most of the treasure hunting challenges. They should of covered that in the manual.

The options that is easily missed because you're dumb. The options that is easily missed is for to you to read the in game tips like players should of. The options that is easily missed is to go back to Grade where you should of learned how to read. These are the options that is easily missed.

Here are three point wrong with your post:

1) What "Grade"? To "go back to Grade" does not make senses. You need to say a specific grade or no one will understand what your talking about; Grade is incorrect due to capitalization.

2) Why not have in the booklet that comes with the game. You may not come across the particulate tip that says you can fast travel to your way point. It may of been blurry, I could of been away from the screen, or I may on not been able to read it all. I am aware that you can fast travel to a city/settlement, they explain that. However, I was not aware that you could fast travel your way point.

3) Many, including Yahtzee, did not know about the fast travel to your way point. You made an insult, a verbal attack, not only to me but everyone that did not know that. Once again, including Yahtzee.

 

[mariofan1000]

No Cross-Dressing contest?

 

[GETbacon]

You Know Yahtzee ,Not that you'll care, There are cars in the game ,model T's to be precise (E-PENIS LEVEL UP!), but as far as any one is concerned their just interactive props but their near the end of the game (as well as binoculars which Rockstar though would be useless for early part's) but the videos up, I realize there just your oppinons and experiences. Also we can't expect you to go thru every game completely and produce an entertaining video every wensday.

 

[Dr. Danger]

He shouldn't ***** about travel time in a game that offers free instant travel.

What the options that is easily missed? I realized that I could travel to my waypoint with camping and coaches after I beat the game and most of the treasure hunting challenges. They should of covered that in the manual.

The options that is easily missed because you're dumb. The options that is easily missed is for to you to read the in game tips like players should of. The options that is easily missed is to go back to Grade where you should of learned how to read. These are the options that is easily missed.

Here are three point wrong with your post:

1) What "Grade"? To "go back to Grade" does not make senses. You need to say a specific grade or no one will understand what your talking about; Grade is incorrect due to capitalization.

2) Why not have in the booklet that comes with the game. You may not come across the particulate tip that says you can fast travel to your way point. It may of been blurry, I could of been away from the screen, or I may on not been able to read it all. I am aware that you can fast travel to a city/settlement, they explain that. However, I was not aware that you could fast travel your way point.

3) Many, including Yahtzee, did not know about the fast travel to your way point. You made an insult, a verbal attack, not only to me but everyone that did not know that. Once again, including Yahtzee.

But it was not an easy thing to miss, mate.

I'm sorry but I don't understand how you went through the entire game without figuring out that you could fast travel to your way point. That's just mind blowing. As he said, the game gave tips during every bloody loading screen (I must have saw that one 50x) and again -- I can't believe you didn't just one time try to initiate fast travel with a way point already set.

While it is strange that it's not in the instruction manual, a lot of other things aren't either. They seemed to stick with necessity rather than a luxury that wasn't hard to miss.

Out of curiosity, what makes Yahtzee so special that he doesn't deserve the same criticism? This problem was swiftly removed by merely paying attention. There are not special loading screen tips that are blurry or difficult to read. They all have the same size and font.

 

[Video Gone]

Yay!!!!!



.......bet he's gonna hate it.

Well then great job on just rushing to post just to be first.

Great review haha @ the ripping of all gta's. Managing to actually pick out bad points of an overall solid game.

Mountain Lion ftw!

It's not ripping off if it's the same developer. Who did you think he said made it, "Dock Car"?
Also, I'm assuming that Yahtzee is talking 360, because no-one I know who got it on PS3 have experienced any glitches at all.
Oh, but mine just froze, screen still there, once. Probably my fault for jumping a four-horse heavy wagon off a cliff and trying to ride around the rocky terrain on it. I guess the game was stopping me from doing something I would deeply regret.
Also, this being RockStar, I'm disappointed by the inability to swim. Maybe it's more realistic if a gunslinger can't swim. Maybe it helps with immersion. And maybe the online community should step up its game and actually kill me now and then instead of (actually happened continuously for 3 hours in free roam with different players) running away, and, when they do shoot, being killed before their bullet can even be fired.
And no, I don't use multiplayer Dead Eye except when fighting NPCs in the little challenge things.

 

[lonercs]

-SNIP

But it was not an easy thing to miss, mate.

I'm sorry but I don't understand how you went through the entire game without figuring out that you could fast travel to your way point. That's just mind blowing. As he said, the game gave tips during every bloody loading screen (I must have saw that one 50x) and again -- I can't believe you didn't just one time try to initiate fast travel with a way point already set.


While it is strange that it's not in the instruction manual, a lot of other things aren't either. They seemed to stick with necessity rather than a luxury that wasn't hard to miss.

Out of curiosity, what makes Yahtzee so special that he doesn't deserve the same criticism? This problem was swiftly removed by merely paying attention. There are not special loading screen tips that are blurry or difficult to read. They all have the same size and font.

I do not have the best TV so all the tips were quite blurry, plus I do not really read them a lot. Also I DID see "waypoint" on my fast travel a few time in Mexico. I was looking for a certain town, I though waypoint was a specific place on the map, like a landmark. After I beat the game, I either seen the tip afterward or was just curious to know what "waypoint" was. I was how I found out.



As for Yathzee being special, I'll admit I was using his name against you. I assume you are fan of his work and therefore would take back your statement. Since he missed it, and you called me an idiot for missing it as well. I implied that you were calling Yathzee an idiot as well. At that point, if you stuck by your point (while being hostile), I was going to try get the fanboys go after you.

 

[Dr. Danger]

I do not have the best TV so all the tips were quite blurry, plus I do not really read them a lot. Also I DID see "waypoint" on my fast travel a few time in Mexico. I was looking for a certain town, I though waypoint was a specific place on the map, like a landmark. After I beat the game, I either seen the tip afterward or was just curious to know what "waypoint" was. I was how I found out.

As for Yathzee being special, I'll admit I was using his name against you. I assume you are fan of his work and therefore would take back your statement. Since he missed it, and you called me an idiot for missing it as well. I implied that you were calling Yathzee an idiot as well. At that point, if you stuck by your point (while being hostile), I was going to try get the fanboys go after you.

Well, I can't fault you for having a shoddy television. That used to be my problem as well until I got a new one. That's ironically how I figured out the waypoint quick travel too. I had set up camp while having a waypoint set and saw it there. That said, I only clicked it to see what it even meant. Funny because the connection should have been obvious. They even let you do that in GTA, I believe. Rockstar must be smart enough not to advertise quick travelling too much since it means missing out on the world they had to painstakingly detail.

I'm not the one who called you an idiot. You were bantering with a bloke called "Dupeo" and I chimed in. Yahtzee was likely only complaining for comedic effect. I would prefer he didn't gripe about travelling in a video game designed for it. Especially if the option to quick travel is avaliable.

 

[UkibyTheMaid]

Now that I already played this game for a while, this video became a lot funnier XD

I also hate having to press x to run >_> Whose idea was that???? What happened to the 'move the left stick just a little to walk or push it real hard to run' mechanics? Those used to work fine.

 

[Dupeo]

He shouldn't ***** about travel time in a game that offers free instant travel.

What the options that is easily missed? I realized that I could travel to my waypoint with camping and coaches after I beat the game and most of the treasure hunting challenges. They should of covered that in the manual.

The options that is easily missed because you're dumb. The options that is easily missed is for to you to read the in game tips like players should of. The options that is easily missed is to go back to Grade where you should of learned how to read. These are the options that is easily missed.

Here are three point wrong with your post:

1) What "Grade"? To "go back to Grade" does not make senses. You need to say a specific grade or no one will understand what your talking about; Grade is incorrect due to capitalization.

2) Why not have in the booklet that comes with the game. You may not come across the particulate tip that says you can fast travel to your way point. It may of been blurry, I could of been away from the screen, or I may on not been able to read it all. I am aware that you can fast travel to a city/settlement, they explain that. However, I was not aware that you could fast travel your way point.

3) Many, including Yahtzee, did not know about the fast travel to your way point. You made an insult, a verbal attack, not only to me but everyone that did not know that. Once again, including Yahtzee.

Thank you for giving three point wrong with my post.
And yes that was an insult to people who did not understand that particulate tip. I think people that don't understand that particulate tip deserve to be insulted for not understanding that particulate tip. There are plenty of load screens and I know I have seen that particulate tip many times and since I can read I understood that particulate the first time I saw it.

 

[tobe mayr]

Funny how this review seems to miss the point of the game. Reminds me of the one about Demon's Souls.
Atmosphere and setting are part of the game experience, especially in the context of escapism.
Anyway, listing mainly technical glitches isn't really much of a critical view on the game, as it only covers minor aspects. Hope this was because of the weather.

 

[Plumbomatic]

I am really looking forward to getting my hands on this game. I'm only renting for consoles right now and currently am wandering through Heavy rain. may have to shift this one up the list for a quick Shufty (anyone non-english do not ask what a shufty is you wont understand)

He shouldn't ***** about travel time in a game that offers free instant travel.

true but insta travel breaks immersion which is the best part of a good sandbox game

You can't ***** about travel times when there's fast travel. If you want immersion then you can't ***** about travel times because you don't have to walk/ride everywhere.

 

[Plumbomatic]

I might have got Green Spleen Submarine if they hadn't just brought it out for the consoles. Maybe bringing it out for the PC would actually solve the problem Yahtzee mentioned of VERY bad controls, and the one about sprinting.

Rockstar REALLY dropped the ball there. I guess it was because they didn't seem to involve the AWESOME people at Rockstar North.

The controls aren't nearly as awful as he makes them sound. They are actually rather fluent. Don't judge it if you haven't played it. Rockstar did not drop the ball and I am racially offended that you weren't burned shortly after your birth.

Take this review, combine it with one of those others that just mindlessly shower the game with praise and you've got a pretty fair idea of the game. What really gets me is that this game, as great as most of it is, is just a reskinned version of every other GTA. The game mechanics are decidedly last generation and it's just wrapped in pretty graphics. I think everyone just shit themselves because there's finally a wester worth playing.

By the way, I'm glad Yahtzee got a truly funny review out again. The last three have been a bit ho-hum after the bar he's set previously.

Cheers.

Have you played the game? The controls are nearly identical but only because those controls work for this genre. Other than a similar mission structure which all sandbox games share that's all RDR has in common with GTAIV. The reason people shower the game with praise is because it's sort of a great game. Easily Game of the Year. And last generation? What the hell does that even mean? Surely you're not referring to Euphoria. If you are then you're an idiot. Just to clarify, "Red Dead" comes from Red Dead Revolver, the game's spiritual successor. Red was the name of the main character. It doesn't refer to a color. I refuse to acknowledge the auto aim complaint simply because you can turn it off. I'm positive that the entire review except for the end was sarcasm. If not he's an idiot.

 

[tipp6353]

we can all agree we hate the mountain lions

 

[DeepComet5581]

I might have got Green Spleen Submarine if they hadn't just brought it out for the consoles. Maybe bringing it out for the PC would actually solve the problem Yahtzee mentioned of VERY bad controls, and the one about sprinting.

Rockstar REALLY dropped the ball there. I guess it was because they didn't seem to involve the AWESOME people at Rockstar North.

The controls aren't nearly as awful as he makes them sound. They are actually rather fluent. Don't judge it if you haven't played it. Rockstar did not drop the ball and I am racially offended that you weren't burned shortly after your birth.

What the hell prompted that!? Fair enough, you make your point and move on, but you didn't have to insult me at the same time! You certainly didn't have to make it look like I was being a racist just by being born.

Reported.

 

[wkrepelin]

Have you played the game? The controls are nearly identical but only because those controls work for this genre. Other than a similar mission structure which all sandbox games share that's all RDR has in common with GTAIV. The reason people shower the game with praise is because it's sort of a great game. Easily Game of the Year. And last generation? What the hell does that even mean? Surely you're not referring to Euphoria. If you are then you're an idiot.

Yeah, I have played it. I own it and finished it some time ago. I got 760 gamerscore from it and I really liked it (I'm thinkihng about going for 100% since I'm nearly there already).

Everything I said was true. The game mechanics are decidedly last generation as in the controls and the mission structure is nearly identical to all the gta games on the PS2. I know Euphoria is a current gen engine and I don't know where you got the idea that was what I was talking about. The game is glitchy as hell and it drags in the middle. I would still give it a 9/10 though. It is a competitor for game of the year. It's up there with Mario Galaxy 2, Mass Effect 2 and God of War III but it still has issues and that should be reflected in the game's scores. That's why I said that if you combine this review with one of the other ones that just shower the game with praise as if there's no problems then you'll get a good idea of the way the game really is. It's a really good game but it has issues.

 

[Plumbomatic]

Have you played the game? The controls are nearly identical but only because those controls work for this genre. Other than a similar mission structure which all sandbox games share that's all RDR has in common with GTAIV. The reason people shower the game with praise is because it's sort of a great game. Easily Game of the Year. And last generation? What the hell does that even mean? Surely you're not referring to Euphoria. If you are then you're an idiot.

Yeah, I have played it. I own it and finished it some time ago. I got 760 gamerscore from it and I really liked it (I'm thinkihng about going for 100% since I'm nearly there already).

Everything I said was true. The game mechanics are decidedly last generation as in the controls and the mission structure is nearly identical to all the gta games on the PS2. I know Euphoria is a current gen engine and I don't know where you got the idea that was what I was talking about. The game is glitchy as hell and it drags in the middle. I would still give it a 9/10 though. It is a competitor for game of the year. It's up there with Mario Galaxy 2, Mass Effect 2 and God of War III but it still has issues and that should be reflected in the game's scores. That's why I said that if you combine this review with one of the other ones that just shower the game with praise as if there's no problems then you'll get a good idea of the way the game really is. It's a really good game but it has issues.

Once again the controls are nearly identical because they work for this genre. What else could they do? Maybe have right trigger jump and x pause the game? If I remember correctly you couldn't take cover in any GTA games on the Ps2. The mission structure once again can't really be changed, nearly all sandbox games have a similar structure. Meet someone, go to their map marker, work for them, finish mission, meet someone else, and repeat. How the hell could they change that? Nothing about the game is last gen. What game mechanics are you referring to? What, specify, is last gen? You penalize a game for using a good control scheme that works or for using a mission structure that makes sense. Everything you said was idiotic.

 

[wkrepelin]

Once again the controls are nearly identical because they work for this genre. What else could they do? Maybe have right trigger jump and x pause the game? If I remember correctly you couldn't take cover in any GTA games on the Ps2. The mission structure once again can't really be changed, nearly all sandbox games have a similar structure. Meet someone, go to their map marker, work for them, finish mission, meet someone else, and repeat. How the hell could they change that? Nothing about the game is last gen. What game mechanics are you referring to? What, specify, is last gen? You penalize a game for using a good control scheme that works or for using a mission structure that makes sense. Everything you said was idiotic.

Wow, you are just the whiniest of fanboys and a rude jerk to boot. Why are you on a new account? Get banned or suspended for being rude?

Edit: typo