Zero Punctuation: Red Steel 2

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SkullCap said:
hcig said:
SkullCap said:
I have to admit this game looks rather good. Definitely worth a rental to check it out.

I must say this is Yahtzee's first Wii review in several months which made me curious as to why he has not reviewed No More Heroes 2. Regardless of that, this Red Steel 2 review was a nice surprise.
he joked about "too good to rip on" before but im almost certain he cant complain enough to justify it :D

or maybe its because it doesnt release until the end of next month :p
*laughs quietly to myself*

The Australian release dates do point to the possibility of No More Heroes 2 not being reviewed yet just like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.
*Looks up silent hill release date...*

jesus christ, why do they do that crap to those poor australians? i feel sorry for non north american gamers, they get the shaft big time
 

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hcig said:
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Yey. Back to a good standard! :D

I love my Wii, but I love hearing Yahtzee tear it to shreds.

Now what the Wii needs is someone to burn all those casual games and start again. Even if there were good games on Wii, at the moment its too embarrassing rummaging through "My favourite pet kitten", "Barbies Magical Adventure" and other such made up titles which wouldn't shock my if the did really exist.

Wii was supposed to be a new and futuristic gaming system, not just another way to play chess.

p.s. Does anyone know if "Sadness" will ever be released? Along with Zelda, it was one of the reasons I bought the Wii on release date but seems to have vanished/been cancelled.
1.sadness was vaporware, sorry, but shattered memories is similar in concept, and it way friggin awesome (also very graphically appealing)

2.casual games dont need to burn, there are people that enjoy those games, the problem is the STIGMA needs to burn, so developers will put in proper time and money (like with RS2, silent hill, and monster hunter tri) to make a good game, sadly, RS2 isnt doing very well (though it has alot working against it) but silent hill sold well, and in japan, monster hunter tri sold the BEST of all the console MH games (still hard to compete with the psp market thought, as it is a portable version)

3.also, i like chess, but we need advance wars online instead :D
Okay you are right, its not the fault of casual games. But the problem when I go into a game store is that I can almost only find casual games on the Wii. Wii ported flash type games don't appeal to me, but I guess its obvious that they are making a lot of money for Nintendo, and Pop Cap games :)

But I hope Red Steel 2 is a step in the right direction. From what I can tell, it is a much more refined gaming experience. And a game doesn't need high definition or 2.9 billion polygons per seconds to be good. But time will tell if anyone else tried to do something new with that platform.

(Oh I like Chess too, and also Go (Japanese board game based on the idea of capturing territory for those who are not familiar) :D )
 

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In an effort to make this game hard, I never bought ANY armor or health upgrades and almost NEVER used the Tiger. Result: A hard game... Seriously. Though that's especially true on the hard difficulty setting. I know it sucks, but if you want to keep this game hard, you have to not buy things and choose not to use a special move... Still fun as hell though. Also, don't worry about getting different attacks, those are too cool not to get. Some of them are essential to not dieing every three minutes.

All in all, Yatzee didn't seem to hate this game too much. He said what reviewers say, just with more hyperbole (as usual). That makes me happy as... I liked the game quite a lot.
 

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I love how every time he reviews a Wii title there's a bevvy of masturbation jokes. XD

Lovely review. Kind of makes me wish I had the game. Hacky hacky slashy slashy is rather cathartic.
 

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i had a lot of fun with this game, but i agree with yahtzee in that swordfighting is the only kind of hardcore gameplay that could be enhanced by the motionplus.

best review in a long time
whats with this line of thinking?

first off, ANY sports game benefits, and thats an easy example to think of, second, adventure games can benefit from the level of interactivity.

now, what games exist that dont have gameplay based around sports, interaction with environment, or swords? shooters of course

and think about how WM+ can benefit shooters, the whole point behind the iron sight aiming trend was to allow a more fine aiming ability which was unavailable to people playing with game pads, but with the wii, its remedied by the bounding box.

now think about this, if youve got wii motion plus, while playing an fps, you now have control over the entire gun, so if you want to fire from the hip? simply fire from your actual hip, want to fine aim? bring the gun to your shoulder, and you can look right down the sights

with the WM+ you can make melee attacks more aggressive, if you simply snap the remote forward (like we do in most wii games) you would do little to no damage, and would probably just piss someone off, but if you got down and brutally beat the enemy with your wiimote/gun, it would lead to a much more visceral and involving experience .

plus, call of duty knife fighting would be awesome.
 

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Thank God, Yahtzee actually did an accurate and extremely funny review of a relevant game. It seems like every time he picks a game that is actually worth reviewing it's half-assed, inaccurate, or not that funny. This definitely wasn't the case.

I think that motion technology will have to be elaborated a great deal, in ways that we haven't even comprehended yet in order to even keep up with traditional mediums. Just because something is capable of being done in a "different" way, doesn't mean that difference is more fun or efficient.
 

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hcig said:
SkullCap said:
hcig said:
SkullCap said:
I have to admit this game looks rather good. Definitely worth a rental to check it out.

I must say this is Yahtzee's first Wii review in several months which made me curious as to why he has not reviewed No More Heroes 2. Regardless of that, this Red Steel 2 review was a nice surprise.
he joked about "too good to rip on" before but im almost certain he cant complain enough to justify it :D

or maybe its because it doesnt release until the end of next month :p
*laughs quietly to myself*

The Australian release dates do point to the possibility of No More Heroes 2 not being reviewed yet just like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.
*Looks up silent hill release date...*

jesus christ, why do they do that crap to those poor australians? i feel sorry for non north american gamers, they get the shaft big time
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories=April 22, 2010

I haven't the slightest idea. You'd think Australia would get games faster because Australia is much closer to Japan. Oh well...
 

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What? You reviewed Red Steel 2 before No More Heroes 2? What the hell, Yahtzee? You actually liked the first No More Heroes, and to the best of my knowledge, No More Heroes 2 has been out longer than Red Steel 2, so what gives?
 

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Haha, enjoyed both the Calvin and Hobbes and Princess Bride jokes in this one. Great review overall as always.
 

Dhatz

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the only problem with Wii's controls is the wii's controls! it's obsolete as shit.

Nothing can beat the Sixense True Motion. And it's multiplatform!
 

hcig

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drakenabarion said:
hcig said:
drakenabarion said:
Yey. Back to a good standard! :D

I love my Wii, but I love hearing Yahtzee tear it to shreds.

Now what the Wii needs is someone to burn all those casual games and start again. Even if there were good games on Wii, at the moment its too embarrassing rummaging through "My favourite pet kitten", "Barbies Magical Adventure" and other such made up titles which wouldn't shock my if the did really exist.

Wii was supposed to be a new and futuristic gaming system, not just another way to play chess.

p.s. Does anyone know if "Sadness" will ever be released? Along with Zelda, it was one of the reasons I bought the Wii on release date but seems to have vanished/been cancelled.
1.sadness was vaporware, sorry, but shattered memories is similar in concept, and it way friggin awesome (also very graphically appealing)

2.casual games dont need to burn, there are people that enjoy those games, the problem is the STIGMA needs to burn, so developers will put in proper time and money (like with RS2, silent hill, and monster hunter tri) to make a good game, sadly, RS2 isnt doing very well (though it has alot working against it) but silent hill sold well, and in japan, monster hunter tri sold the BEST of all the console MH games (still hard to compete with the psp market thought, as it is a portable version)

3.also, i like chess, but we need advance wars online instead :D
Okay you are right, its not the fault of casual games. But the problem when I go into a game store is that I can almost only find casual games on the Wii. Wii ported flash type games don't appeal to me, but I guess its obvious that they are making a lot of money for Nintendo, and Pop Cap games :)

But I hope Red Steel 2 is a step in the right direction. From what I can tell, it is a much more refined gaming experience. And a game doesn't need high definition or 2.9 billion polygons per seconds to be good. But time will tell if anyone else tried to do something new with that platform.

(Oh I like Chess too, and also Go (Japanese board game based on the idea of capturing territory for those who are not familiar) :D )
Mmmm, chess and go, the games that inspired "pai sho" a surprisingly fun game (taken from the avatar[of the good variety] universe) :D

yea, i totally share your sentiment about the casual games, but we will never get out of that hole until people like whats his face, ex- infinity ward guy stop saying the wii isnt worth your time, because of its lower processing capability.

nintendo was on the graphical cutting edge since the NES, and it got them NOTHING, when they entered with the N64, a console that was unbelievably powerful, they began to feel the sting of 3rd parties leaving them for the much more developer and budget friendly ps1, when the gamecube rolled around, that sentiment stayed, and so nintendo could only get the crappiest of 3rd party jobs.

soon, the gamecube was "kiddie", it had everything developers wanted (great power, great reputation among consumers, easy to develop for, etc) but now they declined, because the ps2 was where it was at, sure, its graphics were pathetic compared to the gamecube and xbox, but it had an enormous install base of gamers and non gamers alike, was the cheapest to develop for, and for some, it had the perfect controller. does this sound familiar to you?

this carried over to the wii, however, where they went the ps2 route, COMPLETE focus on large audience, better controls, and leaving power behind.

and they payed dearly for it.

you can tell that what started as legitimate complaints turned into a certain developer hatred of nintendo, and now, after developers failed for THREE YEARS to bring out any core games, they decide to go ahead with the plans, meanwhile, that ENORMOUS hardcore install base has already left their wii in the closet, because developers chose to shaft the consumer.

what would it take to get this core to buy your game?

bring it out with zelda

its that simple, you have to wait for the wii owners to bring out the wii for the new zelda game, right then, you need to snag them, begin releasing games within the first two months of zelda's release, and there is a chance of bringing them back to you.


of course, by "you" i mean them, and i dont know why i just typed up a poorly written history lesson and future wii gameplan when nobody who could use it will be reading :/
 

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I am still wondering how hq graphics for someone using ms paint is this great thing.
Hell this is like how yathzee complains about the wii motion plus you improve the sensor but you dont improve the processor or something or other.
 

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Don't worry, Yahtzee... I hate 2Fort, too.

...Actually, that's the only TF2 map I can think of that I hate.

SkullCap said:
hcig said:
SkullCap said:
I have to admit this game looks rather good. Definitely worth a rental to check it out.

I must say this is Yahtzee's first Wii review in several months which made me curious as to why he has not reviewed No More Heroes 2. Regardless of that, this Red Steel 2 review was a nice surprise.
he joked about "too good to rip on" before but im almost certain he cant complain enough to justify it :D

or maybe its because it doesnt release until the end of next month :p
*laughs quietly to myself*

The Australian release dates do point to the possibility of No More Heroes 2 not being reviewed yet just like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.
He said on Twitter he went to GAMETRADERS RO.... err... some other GAMETRADERS to pick up the UK copy of Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. Nintendo can't ruin his bootloader if he doesn't need to use it!
 

hcig

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Dhatz said:
the only problem with Wii's controls is the wii's controls! it's obsolete as shit.

Nothing can beat the Sixense True Motion. And it's multiplatform!
what, do you work for them? sixense is the same thing as the wii motion plus