Zero Punctuation: Shadow of the Colossus

reachforthesky

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NeverMemory said:
Well, I'd like that 5 minutes of my life back. At first I thought that it's a little odd seeing review of a game that's been out for god knows how long; I thought that maybe there is another newly released title that somehow had the exact same name or something. But I was wrong.

I've always thought that the swearing thing fits Yahtzee really well, because it sort of gives me the impression that this guy means business. But now I realized that Yahtzee only swears becuase he is a ****, a dick that like to screw every living thing on the face of the Earth.

Well, my patience with Yahtzee is running thin, so I told myself that the next time I saw something this unprofessional, I should stop watching zero-punctuation for good. I mean there was the DC tour where it's basically couple minutes watching couple dudes driving, and there is this tantrum.......enough is enough !!
Was there actually anything wrong with the video? You should be more specific about your complaint if you want anything done about it. If it was just the fact that he's reviewing an old game, there's not a lot to be done, I don't think anything (important)is really out right now that he hasn't reviewed. I could be wrong...
 

mikespoff

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Casual Shinji said:
It's nice to see ZP gush about a game every once in a while. Especially one as amazing as Shadow of The Colossus.

As my shrink used to say: Try to transform that negative energy into something positive.
It does make a refreshing change.
 

finalizer

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Agreed that SC2 can continue to suck it. The last great RTS game was Company of Heroes.

Nice review overall, I laughed a lot more in this one than the last couple you've done. Then again, maybe it's 'cause I've actually played the game in question this time (  ̄ー ̄)
 

Hunter.Wolf

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finalizer said:
Agreed that SC2 can continue to suck it. The last great RTS game was Company of Heroes.
Sigh, you don't seem to understand the he doesn't like RTS at all ... neither CoH nor SC2.
 

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The kinder Surprise comment made me miss my childhood of eating those chocolate eggs and fiddling with the tiny toys within. Those were the days... And damn it if they can't be again! Off to the store!!

OT: I can't believe Yahtzee is so disgruntled by the average RTS game that he would actually review something for the Playstation 2. He can make all the comments he wants about how much he thinks they suck, but if you look past it all, you see a scared boy in a hat with a beard who makes more money than me.
 

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MajoraPersona said:
angelblack said:
MajoraPersona said:
It's like trying to get a famous neuro-surgeon to perform a heart transplant; wrong area of expertise.
This is stupid. People are not asking Bioware to make an RTS, they are asking a critic to criticize.

There's a HUGE difference between MAKING something (where the term 'area of expertise' applies) and CRITICIZING something.
Yes. One involves investing a large amount of time to create, from a basic model, an interactive experience from a jumble of data. The other requires a steady hand, intense focus for hours on end, and results in aiding someone in surviving a little bit longer. Or has the nature of similes changed since I was ten years old?

Are you one of those people who weren't there for the whole Ebert debacle? Where a famous movie critic said that video games aren't art? Just as the title of 'movie critic' does not make one suited to review video games, being a 'video game critic' does not automatically make someone an expert on how video games work.

Yahtzee does not play RTS games. He does not enjoy them. Therefore, he would not be suited to tell others what is wrong with the game, as, for the most part, he may not be clear on what is and what isn't supposed to be integral to the game genre as a whole.

Yahtzee's reviews tend to focus on pointing out flaws in a variety of games. Variety, in this case, refers to primarily FPS games, sprinkled with the occasional platformer, RPG, or action game. Plus one or two about Guitar Hero. And the USA.

For those of you who aren't completely stupid, I apologize for this rant. It's only said the things that have been stated a million times before, but I feel it bears repeating until everybody gets it.

TLDR: No you.
THANK YOU.
 

talienforn

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Dear Croshaw,

I just wanted to thank you for reviewing Shadow of the Colossus. SOTC is my all time favorite game, when I saw the review I was so surprised and afraid to watch the video in fear that you would somehow pound it down in to a pulp since you are Mr. Croshaw and you seem to do that for ever game. When I saw that you were actually praising the game, that made me happy, for now other people can know how great it is and other people will have a chance to play it and see how great the game really is and it can finally get its praise it deserves. I love that game, and I am glad to see that someone else thinks the same thing. All I need to say Croshaw is, thank you very much.

Talienforn
 

esliang

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Would be interesting to see an SC2 review. Anyway, this one was really very good. Gotta love Yahtzee's taste in games.
 

Mannhammer

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Say what you will of Starcraft II to and the entire RTS genre, at least they're games. Not like this grab and stab series of what are essentially quick time events.

Shadow of the Colossus=Colossal Fail
 

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esliang said:
Would be interesting to see an SC2 review. Anyway, this one was really very good. Gotta love Yahtzee's taste in games.
No it would not! He would just rag on it for being an RTS it would be a distastor. It'd be like monster hunter review all over again.

I can't believe this very simple review is getting so many comments. This is just ridicilous.

Mannhammer said:
Say what you will of Starcraft II to and the entire RTS genre, at least they're games. Not like this grab and stab series of what are essentially quick time events.

Shadow of the Colossus=Fail
Those are fighting words pal. Also. Not true.
 

Malmer

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reiem531 said:
^Once again, this person did not understand the game and is still bitter about it.
That's just too easy. "This game's great reviews backs up my opinion, so any mud I throw out there is bound to be a great argument!"
Yes, I'm still bitter. As I am with every hyped game that ended up not being what it was made out to be. Never trust the internet.

I'm not sure what's not to 'get' though. The game mechanics (this is supposed to be the fun part, yes?) are pretty much as simple as Tetris, you do the same thing over and over again till Game Over. Completing it well within the completion time, it's not something I never 'got'.
The most interesting bit of the game was the ending part, after the last Colossus. But I could be well without the whole Bambi thing.

Meh, you can call me a troll. It's that easy word you can just throw out there, and you're still in the safe-zone; you never had to think up an actual argument or anything.
It will affect on the same level of effort you put into it though.
 

Antitonic

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Is it just me or was that a 14.4V Bosch drill/driver? Either that, or Metabo. They're hard to tell apart.

I guess I could track the game down and play it, but eh...
 

Melgrath

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Always nice to have the occasional positive review from Yahtzee. Half the time the analogies are better than some of the more forced ones for crap games.
 

pennypusher

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The best part about Shadow of the Colossus is the hardcore quick time events. We need more games with more quick time events. Dragon's Lair forever!! Best game EVAR!!1! No skill, no challenges, just more "QUICK PRESS X!!!" quick time events.
 

Mannhammer

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Shadow of the Colossus: Summery(Boss Fights)

1. Climb Monster
2. Stab in Head
3. Tentacle rape
------Repeat------
 

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Malmer said:
reiem531 said:
^Once again, this person did not understand the game and is still bitter about it.
That's just too easy. "This game's great reviews backs up my opinion, so any mud I throw out there is bound to be a great argument!"
Yes, I'm still bitter. As I am with every hyped game that ended up not being what it was made out to be. Never trust the internet.

I'm not sure what's not to 'get' though. The game mechanics (this is supposed to be the fun part, yes?) are pretty much as simple as Tetris, you do the same thing over and over again till Game Over. Completing it well within the completion time, it's not something I never 'got'.
The most interesting bit of the game was the ending part, after the last Colossus. But I could be well without the whole Bambi thing.

Meh, you can call me a troll. It's that easy word you can just throw out there, and you're still in the safe-zone; you never had to think up an actual argument or anything.
It will affect on the same level of effort you put into it though.
Your argument is just dated is all. It's like telling a wall that being able to move is a great thing! For the upteenth time no less. Eventually, it gets old. And what you're saying has been said by people too into the usual clones that are released and are quite content with that. (Like, a wall being content with staying in one place! =D)

That's probably why I'm going to make things short, in case you really, somehow, after all these years, don't get it:

In shooters, all you do is shoot. In (a generic) RPG world, all you do is take turns by going through menus for 30+ hours. In platformers, all you do is jump. In sports games, all you do is play with a ball. In SotC, all you do is go around the area killing colossi.

Obviously there's "more" to each genre. And simplifying it would be my attempts at bringing said genres down to my low level of understanding. Luckily, I'm assuming you're above that. Whether or not you liked the game or not isn't something we care about. It says something about your tastes, yes, but overall, we don't care. As I do for inventive games I never really got into/liked, I do have the mental capacity to accept and even respect what said game did for both gaming and the gamers. Even if I didn't like SotC, I would know off the bat that the game offers a unique experience. I wouldn't simplify to simply it to "my bias view" simply because I was incapable of understanding what millions of others did.

But of course, respecting something for what's it's worth is a rare trait among gamers. (I don't play RE or Silent Hill games, but I will never belittle them. I know exactly what they did before and how they're influential now. My example.)
 

Malmer

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@ProjectTrinity
Fair enough.

I stick to a few actual boards, so I haven't encountered my own viewpoint before. I don't enter game-specific boards to complain (unless their DRM has screwed up my PC. Again).

Speaking of big games and difference in taste, this is the one game, of all time, I don't think deserves its praise. This is a sea praise. The game itself, imo, is not on par with that. It wasn't a horrible game, it's just in the bottom half of easily played and forgotten games.

Now that you mention 'old'. Then yes, hearing about how great this game does this and that has gotten damn old. My original post was more in the light of dissapointment that the video, too, was one endless praise-fest. I expected more than the same ol' story.

Yeah, I'm aware was going to catch hell. There's an army of believers. But probably hardly all of them enjoy the actual game (which is ok, we enjoy different things) as much as this has become a horde of mindless mules going "Yay we all agree on something on the internet, I'm not quite sure what it was, but I'm sure I'm part of something BIG."

That was a bit more than my two cents.