Zero Punctuation: Turok

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Evilducks

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Thedarkestofsouls said:
I was not talking about Halo 3 (Halo 3 was far to overhyped. It didn't make it any less of a great game, but it definatly didn't deliver what it promised).

Yahtzee quite clearly use Halo: CE in his review, a game he is quoted to have never played, and to my knowledge he has not yet. The point of my responce was not to approve Halo, but to voice my complaint that yahtzee told me nothing about the actual gameplay of Turok except it was like have the games I like and half the games I don't. I assume you have played the new Turok, and thus spot-only agree that it sucks, so I will take you at your word. I just wish HE had been more clear on the game, not a weakening Genre.

Edit: Also, I am more then happy if people wish to voice their opinions, but honestly, the first person to use the word "Halo" in this discussion in a way other than "It sucks" was labeled a fan boy, and I would rather not turn this into an argument about what is and isn't fanatasism. If it really is such an interesting debate for people, I would welcome the discussion. However, that is what a PM system is for.
 

MorkFromOrk

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I was totally expecting you to say something about the dinosaurs knocking you off your feet repetitively ad nauseam. Ah well.
 

trlkly

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DrMisanthrope said:
Why are all of you dicks trying to sound like Yahtzee? I see it in pretty much everyones writing. Get your own style for fuck sake
Well, to be fair, for some people it's automatic. People tend to assimilate the speech patterns and behaviors of people they like. Some do it faster than others. For example, for the first few weeks of this, I had to consciously force myself NOT to sound like Yahtzee.

I do agree that some people are trying too hard to be like him because they want to be as funny as him. That probably isn't going to happen, as the funniest people are usually at least partly original.
 

trlkly

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Yahtzee is basing his statements off of halo 3, and it's a wee bit unfair to tar the earlier games with the same brush.
Yeah, that opinion has popped up a lot lately. I just assume that everytime he says Halo, he means the one he played. And when he uses the original's boxart, that's just because it is more recognizable. Still, I would like to start seeing some retro review from Yahtzee, and Halo would make a good one. That is, if playing the third one first didn't ruin it for him.

(I personally don't like Halo, either. But that's because I suck at it.)
 

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Plays2 said:
Nice review indeed.

What I really hated about this game were the controls, they were not unresponsive but I couldn't get a single headshot in the game.

Now the other problems were the shiny graphics, a paper thin and ripped off story, and I agreed that this game wanted to be an average game... like Halo which is a really good example.

ima halo fan, but i play it on pc which is much more organized
i also play halo 1 so free internet gaming!! :)
any way, halo really is an average hearse curtain pewter
EDIT: Now I feel the coming of halo fanboys because of the statements of an average or bad fps...
 

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Hevo said:
I do agree with him on HP bars. Where the hell did they all go?
The only Link between them I can see is the fact that games started auto saving and if it auto saved with a health bar at 1% and 50 enemies between you and the next one it was a bad game design. But who knows thats just a guess.
 

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It seems whenever people talk about how much they LOVE X, and you don't particularly like X, you need to state your dislike more in terms of how much you HATE X just to get your point across. Even if you only have minor issues with topic X, many times the extreme opposing view forces you to the opposite extreme...

Though that, of course, does not apply to Yahtzee, who hates his fellow man.
 

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I actually am not much of a fan of health bars. Gears of War like systems are far preferable in my mind. The Halo system with shields even better than that.

On the note of Halo, I thought you hadn't ever played it before?
 

Anavrin224

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I loved this review like all your reviews, I also thoroughly enjoyed your Ron Perlman and the City of Lost Children reference, enough to make me wanna see the movie.
 

trlkly

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Again, its the fact that the third one was given perfect reviews by all the worlds reviewers, simply, it seems, for its name. He feels that that sort of behaviour is crapfuck, as innovation and originality never happens in somethings sequels, save perhaps Grand Theft Auto and Hitman series, and as originality and innovation are the things that will make a game good, giving something a loving review based on it being a sequel to a game that may or may not have been good to begin with is just stupid.

That and he is always suspicious of something that generates more hype over itself than Paris Hilton, as it is then likely to be compensating for something.
I know that, and you know that. Unfortunately, a lot of the people I know that hate Zero Punctuation cite the "Halo" thing as their prime reason. They cite it as proof that the guy is fake, because he assumedly hates a game that he has admitted to never having played. My retro gaming idea was more so I could prove them wrong than anything. Well, that and it would give him a lot more material to rip since he's stuck in stupid six-months-behind Australia.
 

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they diddnt make health bars for the people that like to run in suicide style and kill everything and if you live just hide and repeat and also saves time looking around for health packs.

the likliness of you reading this Mr crosshaw is about the same as the prime minister or the president admiting he made the wrong choice but health meters are still around like halflife2, stranglehold, teamfortress2 and rainbow six vages
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
...We may be behind you in media, but we are ahead of you in Government. I'll take Kevin Rudd and a 6 month delay over an electoral system that actually gives John McCain a shot, and instant games...
When it comes to domestic issues you are generally on par with the USA. Despite the recent apology, your government's and their recent predecessors treatment of indigenous Australians has been and continues to be abhorrent.
 

beddo

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Indigo_Dingo said:
sanspec said:
they diddnt make health bars for the people that like to run in suicide style and kill everything and if you live just hide and repeat and also saves time looking around for health packs.

the likliness of you reading this Mr crosshaw is about the same as the prime minister or the president admiting he made the wrong choice but health meters are still around like halflife2, stranglehold, teamfortress2 and rainbow six vages
Also the mastergame, Resistance, but I digress. The sort of people who run in suicide style then go cry in a corner really shouldn't be catered too, as it is a stupid style. Its like the people who just run in guns blazing on stealth missions - yeah, it gets the job done, but its also a really lame cop-out, and robs the game of a lot of its value.
Games that allow choice of play should be played as the player sees fit. Each person has their own experience of the game.
 

Uszi

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Indigo_Dingo said:
I'm also stuck here. Please do not call our country stupid. We may be behind you in media, but we are ahead of you in Government. I'll take Kevin Rudd and a 6 month delay over an electoral system that actually gives John McCain a shot, and instant games.

...
For more info on how John McCain will kill us all, please IM me.
*shrug*
Here's how the election will play out, from my American, Democrat Party perspective:

1.An unchallenged McCain will continue to lay low and travel abroad to begin building some international support.

2.Hillary and Obama will tear each other to shreds, and people will get sick of it. Americans have an extremely short attention span. They'll get sick of attack adds, but they'll also get sick of hearing about Obama and hearing about Hillary when they've heard it all before.

3. McCain avoids the problem mentioned in point two, because of point 1, and because he has been VERY, very careful to be nothing but respectful thus far.

4. The Democrats still suck gigantic, hairy tea-bags when it comes to the spin game. The Republicans have a large margin of the country convinced that the Democrats will ruin the country. I've entered debates with 20-year-old republicans, who are fond of saying things like, "The Democrats promise everything and deliver nothing," without any sort of previous precedent.

Thus, add 1-4 up, and you will see that McCain will be President. Though I strongly suspect he'll do a much better job than Bush.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
I doubt he'll retrospective. He made an exception to Psychonauts cause it was a great game (I assume) that was severely underrated. He's not going to review a game that was popular and got more than enough attention (which I'm not saying it didn't deserve, but it did get a lot of attention).

For more info on how John McCain will kill us all, please IM me.
Man, you must be one of the cool kids! You are ridiculing America!

I would ask you to name some of John McCain's policies off the top of your head, but I doubt you even know them. The only association you know of McCain is that

McCain = Republican = Bush

But really, you ask us not to call your country stupid and then make a post like that. What you want to do is make a reasonably intelligent post, rather than a hate-filled ignorant one, like yours is.

But it doesn't matter though, since Obama is going to be the President anyways. :)
 

Endedrural

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Awesome review. I also liked the little speech at the end with accompanying music. Additionally, I'm really glad you used Metroid Prime as the example of a good FPS. That series gets dismissed too much as an action/adventure game. I mean, it is, but it's also a first-person shooter, and it had the best single player campaign of any FPS I've ever played. Keep up the good work, Yahtzee.
 

ccesarano

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Pointless to make such a comment now, but I actually enjoy the game despite its flaws. I think the following were sadly missing, though:

1) It's a problem when all of your bad guys sound like John Madden
2) It's also a problem when you get knocked to your feet constantly in the game, and are still susceptible to damage for all five seconds it takes for you to get back up.

Granted I knew Yahtzee was going to hate the game, as I can tell you right now it's not a beacon of light in any way. However, the single player isn't bad, and the co-op is really interesting as they created custom missions for it (that are near impossible with only two people). I haven't gotten to try out the regular multiplayer yet, but I like the idea of a CTF game where the flag carrier could randomly become swallowed up by a T.Rex. Makes things a lot more interesting.