To be honest I think that webcomics are just one symptom of the over all problem that the internet gives everybody a platform whether they have anything to say or not. I of course include myself in that glorious number.
Zero Punctuation: Webcomics
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Ah, Buckley. I remember finding a website that lets you look at all the changes made to Wiki articles and see where they came from (IP ranges at the very least, I think). A hell of a lot of quotes that might have possibly been anywhere in the region of negative regarding Buckley? Deleted. Same IP range or whatever. Claimed to be from Buckley but I don't know if that's true or not.
Given what I know of the man, I'd say it's probable. He can't write effective and concise dialogue, he steals his backgrounds from a Google search rather than create them himself... I swear he's probably the man behind Limbo of the Lost.
I'll remember the URL one of these days.
Given what I know of the man, I'd say it's probable. He can't write effective and concise dialogue, he steals his backgrounds from a Google search rather than create them himself... I swear he's probably the man behind Limbo of the Lost.
I'll remember the URL one of these days.
Found it. http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/list_edits.php?ip1=68.60.213.27&ip2=&ip3=&ip4=#Blayze said:
This is not a defence of the guy but if somebody said that about me I'd be pretty angry. Don't forget if it had been in a newspaper he'd have sued and nobody would have argued that kind of action. The internet is harder to handle, it has too many anonymous targets.Melo The Yellow said:
It does sound like he went mental though.
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I don't care if you like CAD or not, after hanging around forums for a while you have to at least appreciate this:PrincessRtardio said:
http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20080227
This strikes me as, aside from being a not-very-subtle-or-thinly-veiled attack on CTRL+ALT+DEL, a statement talking about the general over-saturation of gaming-oriented comics following the success of Penny Arcade. Calling himself the "alpha self-important bearded tosser", though, made me take this less seriously than I might otherwise.
The man likes xkcd and the Perry Bible Fellowship, how bad can he be?
The man likes xkcd and the Perry Bible Fellowship, how bad can he be?
Not that it'll stop anyone, but some of the people around here really ought to start making a distinction between the comic (that which Yahtzee is criticizing) and the author. I can't recall which ZP it was, but Yahtzee did make a point about disliking hot dogs because of who the vendor is and the general futility of that sort of thing. Bang on Buckley all you like, but that's not the focus of this somewhat ill-advised review.
On the subject of the review -- which made a lot more sense in the essay he wrote on his site but, of course, no one on the internet reads and, thus, Yahtzee convinced himself that a video would be the way to badly get his point across -- it's somewhat ironic that the criticism that Buckley doesn't know how to build up a punchline well is somehow negated by the simplistic comics he posted today. Apparently he does know how to do it but hasn't yet figured out how to integrate it into his rigid format?
I'm not paying for either ZP or CAD, though, so I'll continue to enjoy them as they wax and wane. My offense as a consumer only appears when I'm actually paying for crap.
On the subject of the review -- which made a lot more sense in the essay he wrote on his site but, of course, no one on the internet reads and, thus, Yahtzee convinced himself that a video would be the way to badly get his point across -- it's somewhat ironic that the criticism that Buckley doesn't know how to build up a punchline well is somehow negated by the simplistic comics he posted today. Apparently he does know how to do it but hasn't yet figured out how to integrate it into his rigid format?
I'm not paying for either ZP or CAD, though, so I'll continue to enjoy them as they wax and wane. My offense as a consumer only appears when I'm actually paying for crap.
True, but most people have the able mind to shrug it off and tell the person that their statement is hilarious and never mention it again. Buckley on the other hand, banned moderators, users, IPs and deleted just about everything he could about it. But I do agree, it's quite annoying getting told things that aren't true by other to yourself.TheFunkeyGibbon said:
Yes that actually is kinda how I see it.
He thought the same way about psychonauts and kind of stuff, that he goes bananas about 'stuff' that is stupid or simplistic but brings their creators enough money to 'buy all the earth and all the heavens' (in the case of nintendo).
The Webcomic-Situation is probably pretty much the same. It's not that he is jealous or bitter, he is just disappointed at society probably.
But then again, I am just guessing.
He thought the same way about psychonauts and kind of stuff, that he goes bananas about 'stuff' that is stupid or simplistic but brings their creators enough money to 'buy all the earth and all the heavens' (in the case of nintendo).
The Webcomic-Situation is probably pretty much the same. It's not that he is jealous or bitter, he is just disappointed at society probably.
But then again, I am just guessing.
It's the ultimate in surreal humor. There is a comic there. And it's the greatest webcomic you've ever read. You just have to imagine.TheFunkeyGibbon said:
I think any sane person would go mental if someone accused them of being a pedofile... it's kind of a natural reaction when someone starts spreading a lot of crap about you. You go apeshit trying to defend yourself and people use it against you.TheFunkeyGibbon said:
Although I can't say this debate hasn't been amusing, I was afraid I wouldn't have anything to do today however this flame fest was a great fun read
I personally do read CAD and find it quite funny that a lot of criticism of it is coming from new accounts with 1-2 posts all in this thread. I also find funny the people who will dillgently defend CAD to the death. I think I'll just quote what I said on the CAD forums:What I find the funniest is all the 'if you find CAD funny you're an idiot' comments, humour is subjective. Just because you don't find something funny doesn't mean no one else will
Gone with the blastwave seems to be down for some time now. But if you're a regular reader there is nothing that can surprise you. (After waiting for 2 months for a new page, you just get used to not checking the page).
Also, as dedicated webcomic reader, I'd have to say I agree with Yahtzee on all of his points (yes I am very consciously avoiding the fact he's talking about CAD). This all can be solved with a simple solution - Stop reading gaming webcomics. Go gread some non-gaming one, preferably the ones that don't suck. (Gone with the blastwave, Order of the Stick, Apple Geeks etc)
Also, as dedicated webcomic reader, I'd have to say I agree with Yahtzee on all of his points (yes I am very consciously avoiding the fact he's talking about CAD). This all can be solved with a simple solution - Stop reading gaming webcomics. Go gread some non-gaming one, preferably the ones that don't suck. (Gone with the blastwave, Order of the Stick, Apple Geeks etc)
I have to ask... When was this? I've read the entire thing from the very beginning to the present. It's been utter shit. The characters are one-dimensional and have been copied and pasted that many times it's unreal, the "backgrounds" are really just pictures available on the Internet after a single Google search, he's a complete drama queen...
And then there's the dialogue. There's far, far too much of the stuff. Buckley might as well just have a blank white background that he puts words onto. If you can remove the words from any comic and it still makes sense, then you don't need the words. Likewise, you could strip most - if not all - of the dialogue from a CAD comic and it would make perfect sense.