Karpiel said:
All gaming webcomics are terrible. I once saw a photo of the people behind Penny Arcade in reality, and all of Yahtzee's points now seem to ring true. It should suffice to say in that case that I don't read their comic because I do not want to contribute to their baconator diet fund.
Really? You're basing your interpretation of them on how they look from a picture you saw? Not even stories about them, just their appearance? Thats the most beautifully shallow attitude I've ever seen.
Uzsi said:
Yahtzee just likes to piss people off.
Which is what I like about him so much. I'll admit freely that his attacks on JRPGs got me at first, but I learned to calm my over reactionary ass down and look it as it was, and it was fucking brilliant. I think he's a fantastic satirist. A giant fucking douche, yes, but a fantastic satirist none the less.
Forwen said:
Cyanide & Happiness has its moments (to say the least) as well.
I could never really get into Cyanide & Happiness since it always just seemed as if it was the webcomic equivalent of Family Guy with its "lol random" sense of humor.
binturong said:
Whatever you think of Penny Arcade, the art has vastly improved over the years, they know how to keep to a schedule, and they're funny at least roughly half the time. *That* is the winning formula regardless of what your comic is about. Maybe it's harder than it looks, since so few seem to get it right.
It shouldn't be as difficult as it seems to be, no. The thing is, the main problem is the over saturation of the gaming webcomic population. It's a lot like in the early/mid nineties when every evening cartoon was trying to be like the Simpsons. Too many just floundered and failed to be too much like it. Of course, this isn't the reason CAD fails; there are several other reasons for that, such as the copy/paste art style and general lack of personification and character development for the characters.
Thaius said:
I still love CAD and was impressed by Buckley's recent ability to pull of such a tragic and dramatic story with the characters I've grown to love over the years, and the only other webcomic I've actually been impressed with it VG Cats, though on an entirely different level than my love for CAD.
First, I hope to god you're kidding about those being your most beloved webcomics when there are so many that are far better than it, such as Achewood, Dr. McNinja, and Lackadaisy Cats, and Templar,Arizona.
Secondly, Buckley failed to pull off the miscarriage storyline, and failed horribly. The main part of this is that there's simply nothing to have liked about the characters in the first place, especially since they haven't developed at all since their original appearances. Ethan isn't a "wacky" character; his behavior is much more like that of a sociopath, and for some reason the characters put up with it despite the fact that he constantly endangers/pisses them off with his complete horrible and hateable personality. Lucas has no personality at all except to be a failing straight man to Ethan's "wackiness". Lilah, meanwhile, is the exact same, except she loves Ethan, despite the fact that there's nothing commendable, attractive, or likeable about him. Zeke is just Ethan, except he's a CA-RAAAZYY robot. They're all cookie-cutter characters, and to say they're unique, or possess traits that would make you love them, is idiotic.
Not only that, but his huge rant on the front page for the miscarriage reveal basically showed him as being kind of a prick. But that's just me, so that can't be used as objective evidence.
Thaius said:
But consider this: if you really want nothing more than shallow, random humor with no creativity or meaning to be found, just keep watching Napoleon Dynamite and catch all the Spongebob reruns you can, lest you get sick from overexposure to intelligence.
Or, if we wanted shallow and meaningless humor, we could read Buckley's Chef Brian and Player 1/2/3/4 comics. Those are the epitome of shallow and meaningless humor.
David_Cat said:
He just did a miscarriage storyline, and did it well. He is mature.
If you can give me an example of this happening, then I may listen.
HIS forums are police state? As opposed to these forums where people get banned for saying "First".
CAD has a lot more story than it used to.
David_Cat, you are the best troll ever and I love you. Please let me have your retarded man baby.
thebobmaster said:
My main problem is that whenever you ask almost any anti-CAD person why they don't like CAD, they usually reply with some variant of either "Because it sucks," which to me reeks of circular logic, or "Because Tim Buckley isn't nice," which is like saying Guns N' Roses sucks because Axl Rose is a jackass.
I agree that whether or not Tim Buckley is a **** shouldn't have an effect on the judgment of his artwork, as even the most soulless monster could conceivably create the most beautiful portrait. That being said, let me give you a few reasons why I think CAD is trash.
- From an objective standard, the artwork is terrible, and Buckley certainly has to know this. He mainly simply copies and pastes his work, from the looks of it, and the facial features of EVERY character are exactly the same. This reeks of laziness and simply not caring. Now, it should be said that bad art doesn't necessarily make for a bad comic. Achewood is one of my favorite comics, and it hardly has great art. The thing is, Achewood makes up for it in the writing, which CAD fails to do, as addressed in the next point.
- Again from an objective standard, his writing is terrible. As has been stated before, he starts with the punchline of the strip and proceeds to run it into the ground, whereas the best way would be to lead into the punchline. When it comes to writing serious moments, he tends to fail since there's nothing likeable or commendable or interesting about his characters. That being the case, it's hard to care about anything they say or do, or anything that happens to them. The fact that he avoids anything that could be used to create development doesn't help. If he had let Ethan and Lilah have the baby, he could have used the moment to create character development. By choosing not too, he was able to bypass character development, so the status quo is maintained and NOTHING will ever change about the strip. Both Ethan and Lilah will probably soon forget about the entire event.
Those are my two complaints.
Kadathwack said:
The thing I want to give points to CAD for concerning the miscarriage storyline is that it managed to actually surprise me twice. Once when the actual pregnancy came about, and then again with it's conclusion.
I can understand being surprised at the actual announcement. The miscarriage shouldn't have been a surprise, since it was fairly obvious from the beginning that he would cause a miscarriage in order to create drama.