Zero Punctuation: XBLA Double Bill
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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No even Yahtzee knows that particular "game" sucked ass. I think he called it "Sonic Now Loading" or "Sonic vs. the Camera".
His point is old games are bad compared to nowadays games. This is very true, however some game developers it seems continue to love making old mistakes over and over again in newer "games".
His point is old games are bad compared to nowadays games. This is very true, however some game developers it seems continue to love making old mistakes over and over again in newer "games".
I enjoy thought but I'd prefer it to be thoughts on how to kill x. Taking into account my level of skill, what abilities I have, how good I am at them, which skills hurt the enemy, which combos are good......you get the picture
It doesn't just ape (assuming ape means copy) god of war, although it is more like god of war than any other beloved popular game. Besides, even if it is just like god of war, any game that has combat like god of war without puzzles definitely deserves a lot of sales.
Ape means copying, yes, like an ape just copies people (yahtzee used it in this review) and I've played some of the force unleashed (but I haven't bought it so I can't speak for the entire game but from what I hear it doesn't change much but the enemies get bigger (same with GOW).
It's less than GOW however for many reasons (hence a ZP is needed) and before anyone says it I'm aware GOW is a copy of Devil May Cry. However, GOW did enough things differently from DMC to not damn itself too greatly, and GOW did a better job at catering to the less hardcore players, at most basic, GOW is DMC for the less dexterous gamer. Force Unleashed takes a page from GOW and then expands that page into a 400 page novel inserting random
George Lucas farts.
And I'll grant permission right now for Yahtzee to use that line.
It's less than GOW however for many reasons (hence a ZP is needed) and before anyone says it I'm aware GOW is a copy of Devil May Cry. However, GOW did enough things differently from DMC to not damn itself too greatly, and GOW did a better job at catering to the less hardcore players, at most basic, GOW is DMC for the less dexterous gamer. Force Unleashed takes a page from GOW and then expands that page into a 400 page novel inserting random
George Lucas farts.
And I'll grant permission right now for Yahtzee to use that line.
I don't have time to read this whole thread and I'm sure this has been discussed already, but Twilight Princess is NOT better than Ocarina of Time. OoT is one game that almost everyone can agree is great and is almost deserving of its reputation. Unlike GTA, Halo, and other "it" games, OoT has survived the test of time and is widely considered better than its sequels even in the subsequent ten years. Saying that opinion is invalid just because the game is old (and really, ten years is hardly enough to be considered "retro") and blindly labelling people who like it better "nostalgic" perpetuates the retarded mentality among gamers that I thought Yahtzee opposed.
And what "new" innovations granted to us from our space-age technology does Twilight Princess add to the Zelda formula? Voice acting? Non-linear gameplay? Dialog options beyond "yes" and "no"? I thought so.
Of course he was probably just fanboy baiting and if so, mission accomplished. ****.
And what "new" innovations granted to us from our space-age technology does Twilight Princess add to the Zelda formula? Voice acting? Non-linear gameplay? Dialog options beyond "yes" and "no"? I thought so.
Of course he was probably just fanboy baiting and if so, mission accomplished. ****.
If zero punctuation ever dies out, it will not be because of lack of material, it will be because of a shift in audiance. The show features a phenominal amount of sacrasm, some of it explained and some of it not, when enough of the audience becomes the type of people that find his profanity or cussing jokes funnier than his sarcasm and parodies, he'll be in trouble.
What piqued my interest in this video was Yahtzee's comparison between OOT/Twilight Princess and Mario 64/Sunshine. Maybe by favoring the most recent editions of each franchise he was trying to piss of gamer fanatics the world over, but what's really frustrating is his decision not to elaborate on these preferences. I'd like to see Yahtzee review the vitality of the gaming industry by focusing on how specific franchises (e.g. Zelda, Mario, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, etc.) have evolved or devolved over the years. Obviously the guy's pants-on-head retarded to favor OOT over TP (even Majora's Mask beats the heck out of any Game Cube Zelda game), but he may be on to something with putting nostalgia in perspective.
I didn't call Yahtzee a fanboy, I accused him of "fanboy baiting" which means that he was saying Twilight Priness was better than Ocarina of Time not because he actually thinks that, but just for the sake of pissing off fanboys (and thus gaining noteriety which he's quickly loosing by dishing out essentially the same reviews as 1up.com).mg66368 post=6.72328.773197 said:
The irony is that Yahtzee has never been a champion for the "hardcore" gamer and certainly not Nintendo fans, but saying TP is better than OoT is just that: a fanboy opinion. Only the people who claim to have played "every Zelda game" get technical about whether they think A Link to the Past or Majora's Mask was the peak of the franchise. Simply put, the overwhelming majority of people think OoT is not only the best Zelda game, but one of the best games ever made. It's like those mutants who think FF8 was better than FF7.
So basically, if he was being sarcastic then it was pointless because it only served to piss people off and upset the status quo, furthermore it went against the entire point of his "review" therefore making him a ****. If he was being serious then he is wrong and to a degree which is perplexingly annoying. Twilight Princess is NOT better than Ocarina of Time, especially if you apply the logic that Yahtzee was using in his review (that games should update their formulas with technology), once again making him a ****.
Pissing off fanboys is a good thing.
Since when?
And playing every game in the franchise makes you a fanboy?
the overwhelming majority is normally retarded.
Those were two games released for the same console with similar graphics and most likely mechanics (the only one I've played is X so I wouldn't know for sure). OOT and TP are 2 consoles in between and OOT uses a wii mote.....although for me the wii mote sucks.
i love that how during the whole video you were being sarcastic, except that nostalgia makes us say stupid things
Yes, that's true. But pissing off fanboys just for the sake of pissing them off, even if it contradicts your own opinion, is not. This is because a critic has to have something called "integrity" so that no matter what game he's reviewing, he will not be persuaded by outside influences. Yahtzee's opinion should be genuine and even if he's reviewing against the norm (ie: his brilliant Bioshock review) his opinion should be his own and supported, not something tacked on at the end to make his video more popular out of sheer outrage.yourkie1921 post=6.72328.778805 said:
Generally speaking, if you've played everygame in a franchise (Zelda has something like 12 games) and you (obviously) like that franchise, yes, you are a fanboy.
Again, generally speaking, that's true. But there are plenty of "smart" gamers who consider certain "mainstream" games to be excellent: OoT is a great example of this. FF7 is another example. Just because you've played a lot of games doesn't mean you can't share an opinion or two with the retarded overwhelming majority.
I'll grant you that TP looks a lot better than OoT, but play mechanics? Have you ever played a Zelda game? They all play almost exactly the same. Most people consider OoT the one that "perfected" the formula and is undoubtedly the one that all subsequent games in the franchise are trying to copy. And as for the FF series, X plays almost exactly the same as 9,8, and 7 (and 6, and 4...). Also, it's important to remember that TP is a Gamecube game first, it was only ported to the Wii to help it sell more.
Ohh So true, ive had hours/days/weeks of my life sucked up by them although tactics seemed to be missing something. Cant wait for 3 although itll be a consule game so no chance of it coming close to the old games. Mainly i suspect cos they ditched the story line and seem o be trying for more of a Remake/Oblivion.mensaap post=6.72328.755918 said:
This episode was okay, horrendously misleading like most of your other reviews but not particularly funny unlike most of the other reviews.
And I resent what you said about new games always being better than old games because of cutting-edge technology used to power games like those on the PS3 or 360. That was exactly like saying that Cloverfield is far better than the original King Kong because Cloverfield has $100 billion special FX and a generic monster that looks like a rejected character model for "Resistance: Fall of Man" in it and King Kong was in black and white and was not shot with a trendy hand-camera technique that made you carsick.
And I resent what you said about new games always being better than old games because of cutting-edge technology used to power games like those on the PS3 or 360. That was exactly like saying that Cloverfield is far better than the original King Kong because Cloverfield has $100 billion special FX and a generic monster that looks like a rejected character model for "Resistance: Fall of Man" in it and King Kong was in black and white and was not shot with a trendy hand-camera technique that made you carsick.