Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee Goes to GDC

[kingflab]

I'm sorry, but you're completely talking out your arse....... yadda yadda yadda

that whole reply of yours boils down to this

its ok for people to tell other people how they can express themselves, unless its the government doing it then we should revolt and shoot all the bastards. or words to that effect.

my main point here has been that yahtzee wasnt self censored, he wasnt told to create a work without cussing, he produced a work and the GDC saw fit to ruin it by censorship.

dont know what part of this you cant get. i KNOW there are rules that govern TV content, i KNOW that companys have a 'right' to controll content in their venues, i KNOW that not everyone is comfortable with cussing, i know ALL of this, and ALL of that misses the point.

the POINT is and what YOU should KNOW by now is that there was NO need for censorship when at all when a simple statment to yahtzee before he produced his work would have allowed him to creat that work without the need for censorship at all. INSTEAD they allowed him to produce his work then THEY censored it.

THEY changed HIS work instead of simply telling him that HE needed to produce something they could live with.

the choice was simple.

choice one: the GDC comes to yahtzee and says, we would like you to produce something for our show but due to the nature of the venue we need for you not to use cuss words.

choice two: the GDC comes to yahtzee and says, we would like you to produce something for our show since your pretty popular and funny and we just love your work.
after its done they slap giant ass beeps every 10 words in the most moronic way possable so it makes not only them look retarded but yahtzee too.


wich choice would you support? ill give a very loose nod at choice one myself,though im not all that keen on censorship by pressure either meaning not direct censorship but rather censorship that is self imposed by the creater in order to get access to certian venues,(example here in the States) im not real happy that video games companys dont put nudity or sex in a game where its called for (or otherwise edit it out) because wal-mart wont sell an AO game.

choice two, only a fool would defend. and in this case NO ONE benifited, the censorship makes the GDC look like Idiots, it makes Yahtzee look like a foul mouth gamer moron, and the people it was ment to 'protect', "the children" and people whos ears will explode at the use of the work dick, were not protected because its very clear what he was saying.

so i ask you few that are still insisting on defending this censorship , why? when no one wins not even the 'innocent children' why defend it? by God i was told by someone that was AT the GDC when this clip was shown that he over heard a 5 year old boy ask his father what "jerk off" ment, clearly that kid and most likley his father will both be scard for life and will never be able to look one another in the eye again as long as they live so as you can see the censorship not only didnt do its intended job, all it DID do was draw attention to an expression that "innocent child" would most likley wouldnt even have noticed if he hadnt had that screaming BEEP to highlight it for him.

common over to the real worlds side and just call em censoring morons like the rest of us and let the parents of those 'innocent children' do what my dad did and tell em to 'shut the hell up before i backhand you, and go get me another beer while your at it'

Quite frankly, I'm giving up. Mainly because theres no way I can make you realise that swearing needlessly infront of people who don't appreciate it shouldn't need to happen, that has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech - its just bloody rude. This also has nothing to do with children, age ratings are set so as people know if content will be offensive/acceptable or not - I'm pretty sure the Catholic Society wouldn't appreciate going to a conference if it had hard-core nudity, a sacrificial lamb, and an abundance of foul language. Thats an extreme example, but it remains in the same context.

Oh, and you forgot choice 3; "We want you to come give a presentation at GDC, you can't curse without some sort of censorship otherwise we can't get the video past rules and regulations - but I'm sure that doesn't stop you making the words more obvious 'wink'"

The problem here isn't that Freedom of Speech has been abused; as it hasn't - the problem here is that bureaucracy is inherently daft at times. But thats bureaucracy for you. I doubt anybody at that conference would have cared if Yahtzee swore or not, but unfortunately these rules exist. Be it to stop people complaining, to avoid controversy, or to make these conferences seem more professional than they actually are.

The thing is, these conferences aren't run by two or three people - I'd wager that the people who decide on who gets to go to the conference aren't the same people who set the rules and regulations, which is exactly why you can't just go around making exceptions. I personally would rather they changed day-time TV so it could show hard-core pornogrophy and every Stanley Kubrick, but hey, thats what the internet is for.



-edit- And it was you who missed the point entirely, not me. You jumped to the conclusion that Yahtzee wasn't told that he couldn't swear - and now we've found out that he did know and he liked the idea. The GDC did nothing wrong, Yahtzee did nothing wrong, his opinions and ideas weren't censored... he even liked the idea of a bleeping noise, so what the hell is there to complain about?

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

Personally, much like Yahtzee himself, I found the bleeping funny, rather than distracting.

 

[ScytheArc]

You are a man of great wisdom and comic genious. Contine to entertain us, if not for us then do it for the money.

 

[Jason224]

i came.

 

[Vitalix]

This latest review is Yahtzee's Halo 3. Lots of hype. He's Yahtzee, you know, so OMFG you'll wet yourself it's so funny. But ... it just does not live up to the anticiption. He's trying too hard. He sacrifies content on the altar of humor. The reason why dear 'ol Ben is so fine at what he does is that he has both -- a scathing wit as well as excellent insights into the games we play.

This review was more jokes than content. Take the content away and Yahtzee just becomes an annoying crank. I mean, how many times is he going to make boobie jokes? Ok, the first few times that's funny. But really now, can you compare things you do or don't like to something else?

As for censorship. There ain't none. To be true censorship it must come from the state. That's why the first amendment does not apply here either. Heck, those bleeps are more for stylistic effect anyway as they don't cover the entire word. So don't get your knickers in a bunch about it.

At least it wasn't another Peggle review. And for that I am thankful.

 

[Nemra]

i came.

...too much information

lol

 

[ekaielias]

I would just like to point out that the Bioshock protagonist has a name. Jack, go figure.

 

[Merzierit]

Anyone notice on the censoring that they seemed to bleep more of the British style slang? To me thats a major part of the charm. Hopefully the bleeping doesn't become a full time thing.

 

[stacia123]

how can you not love that man?

He doesn't care about my fragile, precious eardrums! THAT'S how!

Yahtzee loves it when we hate something about his videos. He couldn't survive without our complaints, it's like his life's blood.

 

[pinkgothic]

[ Removed for Wyatt's sake. ]

 

[Wyatt]

your 'challange' wasnt ignore, the fact is i dont recall saying anything about you in the specific.

it was Pie way back on page 3 that sparked my hostility. i actualy concidered your post somewhat above average in that you obviously put some thought into the actual topic and were not just looking to spew nonsence and get your post count elivated.

on the other hand you did jump into the debate with both feet calling for 'getting along' despite Pies obvious provication and decided to defend censorship in the process so you arent totaly innocent from the rather wide swath i painted with my brush.

you werent my target with my comments but you DO fall under the shadow of them after re-reading your posts i guess.

truth is though i did read your posts i didnt see much in them to take fault with other than the typical call for 'getting along' wich on the net is like calling for snow-balls in hell.

 

[pinkgothic]

All right, thank you very much for the clarification. (I've also removed the post since I see no gain in painting you in a bad light.)

 

[Wyatt]

dont sweat it, its hard to get a true sence of whats being said in forums sometimes and we all have mistaken comments now and again.

ohh and you didnt need to censor your posts on my account, im all for freedom of expression as you know, besides you did make a good point that my calling someone a moron left me as the 'pot' too their 'kettle'

 

[pinkgothic]

im all for freedom of expression as you know

*chuckles* Maybe I did it to annoy you! *wiggles eyebrows* (Just kidding, of course.)

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Duke Nukem will be the game that eats BS's magic bees!


(LOL WTF did I just say )