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only the most shameless fabulists have been proposing that Russia fired an air defense missile into Poland.
Yes. Zelensky is tempting fate.
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You clearly know more about Mr. Maupin than I do. I do not intend to change that.
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And Ukraine had no intention of joining NATO until Russia marched into its territory, and a number of other formerly-neutral countries decided to join as well. So way to go on that front.
NATO Recruiter of the Year goes to...........RUSSIA!
Come up and accept your Award, Vlad! 3 nations wanting to join in a single year. I mean, that might be a fucking record for NATO membership applications.
He's not the only one.
So much for "anti-Imperialist" solidarity..
We all knew already that Russia has been using S-300 missiles for artillery purposes for months.
It's already been established that Russia has repurposed air defence batteries for offense. They already used S-300s in the assault on Kharkiv most recently.
No, it's okay when Russia(and baby Russia AKA Belarus) does it. Just like it's okay when Russia just nabs chunks of Europe because they can get away with it, install a puppet government/vassal state and then annexes them by "referendum" enforced by occupying Russian Army.
You know, legit stuff. Because NATO is making Russia feel bad or something so Russia is entitled to a cheat day. In this case, a Cheat day is "Russian War Crimes in Ukraine".
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But you see, it's okay that Russia does it because the USA has also done bad things (which we oppose).
I don't know how accurate this is but holy shit if this is remotely true I'd be terrified to be invvoled in the Russian military in any fucking way. Especially on the upper levels where any and possibly every piece of info you get might be complete garbage based on everyone trying to make themselves look good.
The premise of feeding data into calculations to figure out chance of sucess in combat ops makes logical sense but if most of your data is error prone and inflated by the lower ranks to make them look better, I mean, holy shit. I'm not a math nerd but knowing any if not all of my data was suspect would keep me up at night.
Well, at least Russia doesn't have THOUSANDS of nuclear weapons which are surely all present and accounted for and those numbers are mostly if not completely accurate, RIGHT?
The ancient law of garbage in, garbage out.
Ah the escapist, where cheering on the death of 20k people is fine. But posting a comedy skit saying "don't be such a c*nt" in response to that cheering? Ban.
Watch: Putin's pride Su-35 violently blasted by US-Norwegian interceptor
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And to add icing on the cake the volunteer fighter pilot didn't survive, and Russia has more planes than capable pilots.
Kharkiv is not in Poland. Then again, you'll believe any accusation made against Russia.
Yes, Kharkiv is not in Poland. That's very obviously not the point. The point is that since we know Russia has been using the S-300 for offensive roles, therefore the fact that it was a S-300 wreckage doesn't provide strong evidence that it wasn't Russia.
And I didn't "believe any accusation". I literally posted twice that it was likely to be Ukrainian-fired. The difference is that I gleaned that information from figures with actual access to the site (Polish authorities) rather than far-right Twitter nobodies.
You were able to resist believing one lie about Russia because even imperialist media said it wasn't true (eventually).
The imperialist media claimed it was Ukrainian from the beginning.
Aside from that, most of us, including Silvanus tend to check many different sources before forming an opinion and have quite a good track record of being proven right in the end. That does include skepticism towards stuff that comes only from the Ukraine and is in the end wrong.
It is you, who, after deciding that all media that is not pro-Russia was basically the same and untrustworthy, lacks any capacity to double check and confirm.
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Actually, it's arguably even better than that, as the very early take from Polish authorities was that it was a "Russian-made rocket", but it was unclear who fired it. There was at that moment more reason to suspect Russia than Ukraine, and they still shied away from pointing the finger.
In contrast, the Russian propaganda site linked to earlier was making strong, affirmative claims about Ukraine shooting down random countries aircraft and the US using Ukraine to host biological weapons labs.