If we can't even put this guy behind bars, then becoming a politician just makes you immune to laws, holy shit
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If we can't even put this guy behind bars, then becoming a politician just makes you immune to laws, holy shit
Apparently the indictment accuses Trump of suggesting that his lawyer hide or destroy documents that were subpoenaed. If they can prove that, they basically nail his coffin shut on his defense of having declassified them.
Fixed that for you. Because Republicans believe that there is only one possible crime, and that is not being a Republican.
Matt Gaetz trafficked under age girls across state lines to rape them, and then paid them via Venmo - and they have the receipts, the testimony from the girls, and travel records. The Justice Department chose not to prosecute because...well, because someone called in some favors and said if Gaetz is going down, then a dozen Republican career lawmakers go down too - possibly in keeping with Gaetz helping to plan Jan 6th.
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At this point, it really takes an absolute braindead fanatic, mentally locked in a personality cult, to still support Trump.
And this cognitive state - absolute braindead fanatic, mentally locked in a personality cult - seems to be the dominant one in the GOP.
At this point, it really takes an absolute braindead fanatic to still endorse the GOP. To look at that party and to identify oneself with it, its values, its functioning.
And yes there are historical precedents of that mindset, of that fanatism, of that cult of the personality. In the 30s, in Europe. Quite a few leaders could have shot somebody in the 5th avenue without losing any member of their cult. Quite a few political parties were structured around an untouchable never-wrong-never-renounced-no-matter-what messiah.
Republicans are fascists. They'd better open a history book and look at themselves in it, one of these days.
And this cognitive state - absolute braindead fanatic, mentally locked in a personality cult - seems to be the dominant one in the GOP.
At this point, it really takes an absolute braindead fanatic to still endorse the GOP. To look at that party and to identify oneself with it, its values, its functioning.
And yes there are historical precedents of that mindset, of that fanatism, of that cult of the personality. In the 30s, in Europe. Quite a few leaders could have shot somebody in the 5th avenue without losing any member of their cult. Quite a few political parties were structured around an untouchable never-wrong-never-renounced-no-matter-what messiah.
Republicans are fascists. They'd better open a history book and look at themselves in it, one of these days.
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Well, Mueller was working under the frame work that he couldn't find trump guilty. He did find him not not guilty, but with the framework he was working under, congress had to do with that what it could. IE, impeachment, which it did, just not removal since republicans fear trump.
Why No Amount of Evidence Will Make Republicans Admit Trump’s Guilt
A paranoid party and its mobster president.
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What is shocking, and carries the ominous reek of banana-republicanism, is the response by the opposition party to the news. Kevin McCarthy, the highest-ranking Republican leader, depicts the charges as a personal plot by Joe Biden — “It is unconscionable for a President to indict the leading candidate opposing him” — and a “grave injustice.” Trump’s leading Republican opponent denounces the charges as “political bias” and “the weaponization of federal law enforcement.”
What is distinctive about these remarks is how little fear these leaders have of embarrassment by the facts. They are dismissing out of hand an indictment they have not seen, the known contours of which suggest persistent criminal misconduct.
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The sickness of the Republican Party as it is presently constituted is that there is no conceivable set of facts that would permit it to acknowledge Trump’s guilt.
What has brought the party to this point is the convergence of its decades-long descent into paranoia with its idiosyncratic embrace of a career criminal.
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Republicans converged on the belief that their only chance to pull back from the precipice of final defeat is to discard their scruples. A willingness to do or say anything to win was the essence of Trump’s appeal, an amorality some Republicans embraced gleefully and others reluctantly.
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He worked with mobsters and absorbed their view of law enforcement: People who follow the law are suckers, and the worst thing in the world is a rat.
That ethos ultimately explains Trump’s approach to classified information.
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If the government was demanding its documents back, that was not an order but a negotiation. And why should he give up his leverage? He had something they wanted.
You can imagine the futility of trying to explain to Trump the seriousness and national security implications of the laws he was brazenly flouting, if any of his aides even bothered trying to get it across to him.
It is the interplay of the two forces, the paranoia of the right and the seamy criminality of the right’s current champion, that has brought the party to this point. Trump’s endlessly repeated “witch hunt” meme blends together the mobster’s hatred of the FBI with the conservative’s fear of the bureaucrat. His loyalists have been trained to either deny any evidence of misconduct by their side or rationalize it as a necessary countermeasure against their enemies.
The concept of “crime” has been redefined in the conservative mind to mean activities by Democrats. They insist upon Trump’s innocence because they believe a Republican, axiomatically, cannot be a criminal.
Sure, but Trump is a massive narcissist. He loves the idea of attention, so he wants people to write about him and we know from previous instances of journalistic access that he doesn't always consider whether it is going to come out well. Secondly, like many people with personality disorders he tends to self-sabotage as he's probably largely unable to control his compulsions. And finally, he has a track record of never really being held to account - at least not in a way that's really cost him - which will contribute to carelessness.
Yeah that's the part people keep forgetting. "Oh it was all a hoax! It was fake! Trump derangement syndrome".
and its like dude, people went to jail for this. Not just for covering it up, but for actually conspiring with the Russian government to steal the 2016 election. Mueller was told very specifically he can't find the president committed a crime. Instead he found literally everyone else had committed a crime. Basically every smoke was a fire, and even though Trump's smoke makes the Canadian wildfires look like a smoke bomb, he wasn't allowed to go there.
Ah, but if Mueller's report didn't literally state "Donald J. Trump committed the crime of collusion", then he's innocent of any and all wrongdoing. Checkmate librul
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Yeah that's the thing. They want to ban history books because it makes it easier to control the narrative you give little kids. I can't wait for what people will say happened with Trump in 20 years - we're living through it now, it'll be interesting to see what the "official" story ends up being.
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Has anyone asked what Trump even stole those documents for? Somehow I doubt that he just wanted to keep them as so he has something to read in bed. It stands to reason that he was intending to sell them to someone.