The Perfect Apolitical/Politics Free Video.
- Thread starter BrawlMan
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Thank you for once again talking about yourself. You're once again extending the goal post. The people on this forum can decide for themselves. They already know the answer. You can have fun with fantasy all you want, but I'll be kicking it back with reality. Careful not to delve into fantasy too much, because reality will always be around the corner. Hanging around in a fantasy too much, might make it your final fantasy, when reality comes crashing super hard.
What? The entire crux of your "art with versus art to push" seems to rest entirely on creator intent, yet how or even if we know this intent is irrelevant?
You've been asking "how can it not be known and still be objective?" and I keep saying that whether or not something is objective is not defined by whether or not it is known. That's why I'm saying it doesn't matter and that it's irrelevant.
It's objective because it CAN be known. The creator had an intent to their art. Sometimes they tell others about it, sometimes they keep it to themselves, but it's true that they had an intent. That's all that matters, and that's why it's objective.
How you and I are supposed to find out what the intent is for any given piece of art is out of scope.
...wait...this started here:
To which you responded:
...but your "what was the artist's intentions when making this?" isn't the objective statement/question. That would be "DID the artist have an intention when making this?", and your own one is the actual subjective statement/question, because therein lies the main argument of "art for art or art to push a message".
You're right, I think I just misread your statement.
No, this isn't a subjective distinction. What the artist had in mind is objective. Either the artist had one intention of the other, and they know which it is.
Well, yes obviously they know, but unless they explicitly tell us, we don't. And this is where it gets subjective, as we try and suss out their intentions, such as with this;
where the criteria were based upon personal experience with the game in question.
That reminds me, Jim did a video last year in August. A thought piece explaining how nearly anything can be considered political. Whether it has politics or not. Thank you again for reminding me @Dalisclock.
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Apparently taking a stance on vaccinations is seen as political in video games. People must love really being stupid.
I've seen user reviews for video games bash said games for being political because the game used Climate Change as part of the setting.
God forbid games more complex then Super Mario Bros exist.
Kirby of course which masterfully displays the inherent horror of extreme gluttony.
I’ll just post what I did in the comments -
Here’s what sucks: If they ever make this expedited vaccine mandatory - for a virus that has a fraction of 1% mortality rate for everyone younger than senior citizens -
www.cnbc.com
The whole thing is a bad joke at best, and a nightmare for anyone with young kids at worst. Their lives haven’t even truly started yet and could be fucked from some political rush job. And all the agencies responsible for enforcing it would say is, “too bad.”
You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won't compensate you for damages either
Companies like Pfizer and Moderna have total immunity from legal liability under the PREP Act if something unintentionally goes wrong with their Covid vaccines.
www.cnbc.com
The whole thing is a bad joke at best, and a nightmare for anyone with young kids at worst. Their lives haven’t even truly started yet and could be fucked from some political rush job. And all the agencies responsible for enforcing it would say is, “too bad.”
Well Said.I’ll just post what I did in the comments -
Here’s what sucks: If they ever make this expedited vaccine mandatory - for a virus that has a fraction of 1% mortality rate for everyone younger than senior citizens -
You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won't compensate you for damages either
Companies like Pfizer and Moderna have total immunity from legal liability under the PREP Act if something unintentionally goes wrong with their Covid vaccines.
The whole thing is a bad joke at best, and a nightmare for anyone with young kids at worst. Their lives haven’t even truly started yet and could be fucked from some political rush job. And all the agencies responsible for enforcing it would say is, “too bad.”
Isn't Kirby an ode to capitalism. Consumption is the ultimate action and if anything stands in your way all you have to do is take it into yourself and use it to defeat its counterparts until only you are left alive. Gluttony is celebrated, it's how you get more powerful and how you beat your enemies, who again only serve to feed your gluttony.
Or, you know, it's a bubblegum creature doing zany fun things cause it's cute and fantastical.
The problem with the whole politics argument is it's being combined with death of the author so people can complain that things are problematic because of an interpretation of the things and it's now somehow deemed fine to accept that as true and the author saying no they didn't intend said thing is wrong.
Worse we're seeing the attitude of "Depiction = endorsement" where anything shown without it literally having a character explain it as bad suddenly ends up with people claiming that clearly it's an endorsement. You know like when Jim Sterling was being accused of being a Nazi because he didn't explain in every video the whole Norsefire flag and dictator look was a deliberate joke.
Worse we're seeing the attitude of "Depiction = endorsement" where anything shown without it literally having a character explain it as bad suddenly ends up with people claiming that clearly it's an endorsement. You know like when Jim Sterling was being accused of being a Nazi because he didn't explain in every video the whole Norsefire flag and dictator look was a deliberate joke.
Everything needs an idiot-proofing disclaimer now. Blame McDonald’s I guess. Or more specifically, blame the legal team who entertained and followed through on compensation for idiocy.
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