30 Million Steam Accounts Can't Be Wrong

[Timbydude]

Maybe it's the unfortunate conditions in which we met. (By we I mean GWFL and I)

I had just got Fallout 3 through Steam, I ran the program... 'You must install GWFL'.

Umm... why? I mean I have the files... so... I shouldn't need to right? Ah well fine I shall.

A period of time later, 'Enter your CD key to install'. Nearly there

*Enters key* ... fails... the fuck is this?

10 minutes later on Google... I can't install Fallout 3 because GWFL glitches when given certain CD keys... so I must activate it never... -.- fine.

*Next day after going through the CD key again* 'Authentication failed' I have the fucking CD key in the front of the screen... why are you continually failing to authenticate my purchase? Are you trying to piss me off?

*Cue Donnie Darko theme tune*

About 4 hours later I never managed to authenticate/update/install any sort of DLC for Fallout 3... therefore I hate GWFL.

Oddly enough Steam has never given me any grief... ever.

Fixed it up a little to reflect my situation, as well as that of all my friends who bought Fallout 3 on PC.

OT: I remember the days when Steam was just a platform that you had to use to play Half-Life 2 and other Valve games. It's been amazing to see it grow since then.

 

[Delusibeta]

To cover all of that bandwidth, the Valve servers can now stream up to 400 gigabytes of data per second.

Just think how much patch data could be distributed per second if they used their 400 GB upstream to seed torrents.

About 25% of what they current do. I have an irrational hatred for torrents, usually because in my experience they're about half the speed as traditional downloads. Give me dedicated servers or naff off.

 

[GLo Jones]

Wow, all that, and I just created an account two days ago!

 

[Obrien Xp]

I only use it because I HAVE TO!

Otherwise I hate it. I have VERY limited internet bandwidth (10GB) I go over this every month. I wouldn't hate it if when I say "do not dl updates for my games" that it'd mean do not dl 1-3gb every other week!

thank you for observing my small rant.

I do love their sales though.

 

[mikecoulter]

I think Valve spreading to the OSX platform has really given it a boost. It's spread the word of gaming amongst some of the most artistic of our community.

 

[Mikester1290]

Almost everyone I know has multiple steam accounts for some reason or another. This number does not impress.

Why would anyone need multiple Steam accounts, so you can gift a game to yourself?

People have done more stupid things for themselves.

Ah man, it's as bad as Mr Bean writing himself a Christmas card and then tucking it under his door.

 

[SextusMaximus]

You disagree with Steam?!?!? You must be TROLL!! SMASH TROLL!!!!

Steam fanboys can get rather troll like if provoked or questioned. Any community that is 30 mil (LOL) is bound to attract filth. Not that the guy here is filth, but Steam does have a large amount of elitists who hate.

I imagine most who state they don't like Steam will be called a troll. Especially from members of this forum. I can't stand Steam personally, I want to buy a game, I have to use steam, steam has close to 10 useless updates a month, I must wait.... I just want to play my game. Leave me alone steam! Sure, people love updates, free content! I just wish Steam was optional instead of required. They stole that page from Microsoft. Can we say monopoly??

Sure some people love it (30 mil, LOL), they will tell you how you are wrong for not liking it. Didn't you hear? Your opinions don't matter to elitists.

Maybe it's the unfortunate conditions in which we met. (By we I mean Steam and I)

I had just got Empire Total War through the post, I placed it into my disc tray... 'You must install Steam'.

Umm... why? I mean I have the disc... so... I shouldn't need to right? Ah well fine I shall.

A period of time later, 'Enter your CD key to install'. Nearly there

*Enters key* ... fails... the fuck is this?

10 minutes later on Google... I can't install Empire because Play.com sent it me a day early... so I must install it tomorrow... -.- fine.

*Next day after going through the CD key again* 'Download starting' I have the fucking disc in the tray... why are you trying to download 4GB? Are you trying to piss off my isp?

*Cue Benny Hill theme tune*

About 4 hours later I finally managed to install Empire... however I still hate Steam.

Oddly enough GFWL has never given me any grief... ever.

You know why that happened? Because Empire is a Steam exclusive. If you'd checked your purchase before actually buying, perhaps you could've saved yourself some stress?

 

[Dogstile]

Cmon Valve destroy Microsoft and there shitty gfwl. Microsoft recently stated they would support the pc but they just announced exclusive xbox 360 fallout: new vegas dlc.

Yeah, because destroying all other companys is a good thing >.>

you sir and trying to be clever but end up sounding like a cracker. EXPRESSION OF SPEECH

Not trying to sound smart. Merely hinting that maybe you should understand why GFWL is actually a good thing for PC gaming in general (not as a service guys, its horrible as that).

Competition breeds advancement.

And its freedom of speech, or freedom of expression.

True, but Microsoft do too much unnecessary harm to pc gamers, why not support your own bloody platform.

By expression of speech i mean when i say i'm going to destroy someone i won't actually destroy someone, lol i'm not saying your blocking my freedom of speech.

Not really harming their own platform. Someone has to do the whole "hey, this is how you do it wrong". Then other companys see that and /don't/ do it. GFWL is a perfect example of this, and that was my point.

 

[bjj hero]

I have steam. Unfortunately I was strong armedinto getting it so I could play Civ 5. Thats the only time I put it on, I'd rather not have it.

 

[Gasaraki]

Meh, I don't see why everyone likes steam so much. It's a good online store but that's pretty much it.
Don't much see where all the hate for GFWL is coming from either. Sure their catalog may be smaller but it's a store. I don't proclaim my local gamestop to be the shittiest thing ever if they don't have a game I want. I just suck it up and buy it from somewhere else. On top of that, instead of being intrusive as fuck like steam is, GFWL actually understands that it's a store. And that stores don't require you to be in the store to play your damn game, nor do they stop you from playing your games for bullshit reasons whenever they feel like it.

 

[ColdFire75]

Yeah fail reporting, is ''number of active accounts to over 30 million'', not number created

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

You know why that happened? Because Empire is a Steam exclusive. If you'd checked your purchase before actually buying, perhaps you could've saved yourself some stress?

Wait what?

Are you implying that I should have tried Steam out before buying a game that required it, somehow figured out that Steam was going to screw me around when I eventually did buy it, and them miss out on a Total War game because of Steam?

Come on... that was not a clever statement.

 

[hottsaucekid]

Good for them.

Now how about they fix all the little problems Steam has had for ages? Like an offline mode that needs to connect to the internet to start offline. Or how about a download-scheduler, so we have more options instead of "immediately" and "never". I hate it when a game starts downloading, I set it to offline mode, and the game is unplayable.

I'd much rather schedule updates to start at night when I'm asleep then "whenever it feels like, usually when I'm doing something".

definitely this. i cant even play steam

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Did anyone buy (I think it is called) Pirates, Vikings and Knights? It was free at the weekend...not sure if it still is. Gosh that was awful. But free. And that is the important thing.

I do wish however that I could put a lock on my account, as I keep buying games I don't need...

I thought PVK was a Half Life 2 mod. They're always free.

 

[Snotnarok]

You disagree with Steam?!?!? You must be TROLL!! SMASH TROLL!!!!

Steam fanboys can get rather troll like if provoked or questioned. Any community that is 30 mil (LOL) is bound to attract filth. Not that the guy here is filth, but Steam does have a large amount of elitists who hate.

I imagine most who state they don't like Steam will be called a troll. Especially from members of this forum. I can't stand Steam personally, I want to buy a game, I have to use steam, steam has close to 10 useless updates a month, I must wait.... I just want to play my game. Leave me alone steam! Sure, people love updates, free content! I just wish Steam was optional instead of required. They stole that page from Microsoft. Can we say monopoly??

Sure some people love it (30 mil, LOL), they will tell you how you are wrong for not liking it. Didn't you hear? Your opinions don't matter to elitists.

Maybe it's the unfortunate conditions in which we met. (By we I mean Steam and I)

I had just got Empire Total War through the post, I placed it into my disc tray... 'You must install Steam'.

Umm... why? I mean I have the disc... so... I shouldn't need to right? Ah well fine I shall.

A period of time later, 'Enter your CD key to install'. Nearly there

*Enters key* ... fails... the fuck is this?

10 minutes later on Google... I can't install Empire because Play.com sent it me a day early... so I must install it tomorrow... -.- fine.

*Next day after going through the CD key again* 'Download starting' I have the fucking disc in the tray... why are you trying to download 4GB? Are you trying to piss off my isp?

*Cue Benny Hill theme tune*

About 4 hours later I finally managed to install Empire... however I still hate Steam.

Oddly enough GFWL has never given me any grief... ever.

Would you prefer limited install DRM? Or DRM that requires you to be connected to the internet 100% of the time? Steam is the only DRM that actually works with it's customers.
I bloody hate DRM, Steam is the only one that doesn't make me spit blood

 

[SextusMaximus]

You know why that happened? Because Empire is a Steam exclusive. If you'd checked your purchase before actually buying, perhaps you could've saved yourself some stress?

Wait what?

Are you implying that I should have tried Steam out before buying a game that required it, somehow figured out that Steam was going to screw me around when I eventually did buy it, and them miss out on a Total War game because of Steam?

Come on... that was not a clever statement.

Seriously? you misinterpret my comment and then have a rant about how I'm stupid?

I'm implying that you should have checked out the bloody game to see a number of things including exclusivity and system specs before buying it.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

Would you prefer limited install DRM? Or DRM that requires you to be connected to the internet 100% of the time? Steam is the only DRM that actually works with it's customers.
I bloody hate DRM, Steam is the only one that doesn't make me spit blood

I'd prefer no DRM but we can't all get our way.

Steam made me rage the first day I used it (as seen above) whereas GFWL has always worked well for me. Even in the dreaded offline mode!

 

[KingTiger]

Meh, I don't see why everyone likes steam so much. It's a good online store but that's pretty much it.
Don't much see where all the hate for GFWL is coming from either. Sure their catalog may be smaller but it's a store. I don't proclaim my local gamestop to be the shittiest thing ever if they don't have a game I want. I just suck it up and buy it from somewhere else. On top of that, instead of being intrusive as fuck like steam is, GFWL actually understands that it's a store. And that stores don't require you to be in the store to play your damn game, nor do they stop you from playing your games for bullshit reasons whenever they feel like it.

What are you talking about 0_o, GFWL doesnt even let me connect online unless I increase my MTU from command prompt on windows 7. Its so badly designed that the player must go into the system sometimes and change his internet properties. And if you are in an student accommodation and cant change router settings like the support team for GFWL told me, YOU ARE SCREWED. I couldnt play Down of war 2 online for the first 2 weeks because of it. Its shit software. Thats why the new dawn of war titles wont use it anymore as the developers stated. I think new vegas wont use it too for the PC version...not too sure.

Steam is much better and actually gave me two free games atleast! Portal and Alien Swarm. and alot of free TF2/l4d/l4d2 content. GFWL gave me NOTHING

 

[Tom Phoenix]

Everybody loves Steam.

No. Just....no.

Steam is not a bad service, but it's overrated. The fact that it's use is mandatory for any game that integrates it (regardless if the copy is digital or retail) essentially puts a damper on any advantages it might have. The de facto ban on used game sales it imposes is a detriment to the customer, especially if they care little about what the service offers. Plus, it utilises region seperation, a business practice I was hoping would have died by now, and charges absurd prices in certain regions like Europe and Australia.

It's not bad, but it's far from perfect and the service gets way too much credit. That is why, even though I love Valve as a game developer, I feel obligated to keep knocking Steam off the pedestal every time the subject comes up. If someone doesn't point out the downsides, we will end up getting permanently stuck with them...and quite frankly, as a PC gamer, that is not a future I desire.