5 Tiny Things I Hope Get Changed in Skyrim

Onyx Oblivion

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MiracleOfSound said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
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No stagger mechanic.

It is not fun being in a room with 5 necromancers and having absolutely no chance to fight back as you get repeatedly staggered. Robbing the player of their control is, in my book, a gaming deadly sin.
There was actually a glitch that made every single hit you took stagger you.

I got it once or twice.

Had to completely turn off the game. Loading didn't fix it.
That sounds like a nightmare I had once.
On the plus side, high Agility characters resist staggering. so, get your assassin/light armored skirmisher on!

>_>

Why it wasn't attached to Endurance is beyond me.
 

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One of the things I REALLY want them to do in Skyrim, and will probably not happen, is to remove the quest markers. I much prefered Morrowind's "This is the guy we want you to kill. We are going to tell you how to get to his cave, and then you're going to have to f*cking work to find him" to Oblivion's "The guy is here. Go get him, champ!". Morrowind's system actually made you think and encouraged exploring (I found the Vassir-Didanat mine while looking for a completely different cave, for example), while in Oblivion it feels like you have to go out of your way to actually find new places because you are always told where to go.

Its never going to happen though :(
 

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Those would all by nice touches.

Doesn't everyone put "Mother's Head" in a special place?
Beside my bed to remind me of my rise to power every night before I go to sleep. >:D
OP: I agree with the list. Definitely needs more voice actors or make some dialog purely text.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Onyx Oblivion said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
MiracleOfSound said:
No stagger mechanic.

It is not fun being in a room with 5 necromancers and having absolutely no chance to fight back as you get repeatedly staggered. Robbing the player of their control is, in my book, a gaming deadly sin.
There was actually a glitch that made every single hit you took stagger you.

I got it once or twice.

Had to completely turn off the game. Loading didn't fix it.
That sounds like a nightmare I had once.
On the plus side, high Agility characters resist staggering. so, get your assassin/light armored skirmisher on!

>_>

Why it wasn't attached to Endurance is beyond me.
That is a good point. You would think the big tank guys would be a bit more able to take a hit than the slinky assassins.

Hmmm, maybe you know something I don't about Oblivion... (shocking, huh?) but even with Agility over 100 I was still getting staggered all the time.

Thank goodness for the Paralyse spell.
 

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Oooh! I just Thought of something else. I want to play as a Street Shark. They need to make a Shark race. If they have talking cats and lizards, a shark race isnt exactly mind warping material.
 

Onyx Oblivion

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MiracleOfSound said:
Hmmm, maybe you know something I don't about Oblivion... (shocking, huh?) but even with Agility over 100 I was still getting staggered all the time.

Thank goodness for the Paralyse spell.
You aren't immune with 100 Agility, but either something was fucked with your game...or you were extremely unlucky. I generally got staggered only by skeletons and marauders. Maybe you are thinking of the shield hit recoil, too?
 

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Agreed heavily with the rearaging my house. I have started playing Oblivion again, up to about 60 hours on my new character already. Now as my brutish Orc is stopmping through the land, I have a lot of weapons. Most of them I want on display. I got the house in Chorrol. Nice and big, loots of space. A good number of desks and shizz to put stuff in/on. But there's no easy way to do that. ALthough, I will say I have spent about 2 hours reagranging 10's of weapons around my room to boast my spoils of war, and too look back at to what I was using at a certain stage in the game. THe only problem, it's tricky and takes a lot of time. I most definately want this changed, lets me get my OCDish side out to play :3
 

MiracleOfSound

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Onyx Oblivion said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Hmmm, maybe you know something I don't about Oblivion... (shocking, huh?) but even with Agility over 100 I was still getting staggered all the time.

Thank goodness for the Paralyse spell.
You aren't immune with 100 Agility, but either something was fucked with your game...or you were extremely unlucky. I generally got staggered only by skeletons and marauders. Maybe you are thinking of the shield hit recoil, too?
Is that like another smaller staggery mechanic? I just noticed I kept getting knocked around and having animation frames where I couldn't do anything. Not all the time... and YES it was those bastard skeletons that were the worst (and Trolls)
 

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I definitely agree with all five. Especially conversations (and luckily it's been confirmed that they are changing that, a lot). Immersion can be pretty hard when you frequently hear this conversation:
Dark Elf: "Have you heard any news from the other provinces?"
Breton: "Nothing I'd like to talk about."
Breton: "Have you heard any news from the other provinces?"
Dark Elf: "Nothing I'd like to talk about."
Yeah.

And for me, as long as Big Head's back again, I'm happy with no changes at all. Sort of.
Defying lore completely and bringing in the Telvanni would be cool too. They could invade or something. But that will never happen. Hm.

But in terms of small changes, it'd be nice if moving items was less stressful. I think I've spent more time trying to bash armour/swords/etc against shelves to get it into the right position to put it on display than I have playing the actual game. Maybe while holding an item in the air you can hold a trigger and use the thumbsticks to adjust it's position or something, Amnesia-style.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Tharwen said:
Another minor suggestion: Let NPCs rearrange their items if you knock them over. In Oblivion, you could run into someone's house, kick their dinner over, pull all their books onto the floor and leave without them doing anything about it. At least reset items to their default locations every few days, pl0x?
Oooo, that's a good one. Just the kind of tiny, immersion-breaking thing I'm talking about. Perfect!

And, well, no, we can't have actual Silt Striders as some folks have pointed out, but something along those lines. What would be appropriate for Skyrim?
How about a wooly mammoth?
Or a green sabre tooth with black stripes?
 

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Yes God bless you Susan on all of those.

Especially more voices....or you know....just tell the 3 people you have doing the voices to freaking try to make their voice sound different sometimes at least?
I mean if I can do a convincing impression of Yosemite Sam, and I sound nothing like him, then I'm just saying....

The only one I dont' know about is the Silt Striders.
I honestly dont' think I'd like to see that in this game, just wouldn't....fit in Skyrim. Maybe just me.
Otherwise you said exactly what I've thought.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Is that like another smaller staggery mechanic? I just noticed I kept getting knocked around and having animation frames where I couldn't do anything. Not all the time... and YES it was those bastard skeletons that were the worst (and Trolls)
Yeah, thankfully the blocking animation is actually quite noticeable on anything with a shield, so you can time to avoid it. You have access to it, too. At Block of 75.

I forgot that trolls had high physical damage, too. >_> Trolls stagger me all the time. But I generally didn't hang around troll dungeons, due to Ogres, the MASTERS of staggering hits. Ogres and zombies can do it, too, but they're too slow to really hit anyone unless they are fighting alongside something to distract you.

Why yes. I did play this game waaaaaaay too much.
 

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I might sound weird saying this, but I really want the Argonians to look less ugly. In Morrowind, they actually looked like bipedal lizards. But in Oblivian, they just look like mutants, at least to me.

Edit: Captcha says police epols. ???
 

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1. The Persuasion Wheel
I completely agree, I like the idea of mini-games like this but it should to make a bit more sense and should be more complex so we don't just figure out how best to do it and never think about it again.

2. Let Me Rearrange My House
Good idea, I always felt Oblivion's world was a bit set-in-stone in how little we could affect things like this, I'd love to set up my own castle and defend it against intruders.

3. Better Banter
4. More Voices
These two go hand-in-hand, more voice actors and more topics of conversation(not to mention more logical conversations) would definitely improve the experience. Oh! As someone else mentioned, an easy way to multiply the voices would be to make the voice actors use a SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT voice, considering it's their job atm I think they can probably handle this.

5. Bring Back Silt Striders
As someone else mentioned, it probably won't be Silt Striders, but I wholly support the idea of a more immersive fast-travel system that we actually have to think about. Obviously we want some convenience, but games are here to play, not to breeze through and move on.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
5 Tiny Things I Hope Get Changed in Skyrim

Five unimportant things that will hopefully change for Skyrim.

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I agree with all those points and feel there were still other points left...

maybe the possibility to trade kinda like in dopewars, and do stuff that doesn't necesarily is rated T for Teen...
 

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Lyri said:
Silt striders, yes please.

I hated the fact that you could just click on a town and be there within a second on Oblivion, I believe it to be a reason why I simply cannot play it for any length of time.
The entire world feels slightly disjointed to me, Morrowinds introduction to the game was great start in a small fishing village and catch a strider to a town or explore the local surroundings.
Oblivion just dumps you in a forest and laughs as you peer out to the horizon and see nothing but more trees.
That feeling of being lost never escaped me and I never found direction in that game.
Boom, I couldnt have said it better myself.
Silt Striders really really make the world more comfortable and immersive.

Also I hate anywhere-to-anywhere fast travel systems, they take all the good things of a giant game world out.
 

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Since the majority of ppl are complaining about fast travel ruining their emmersion, how about eliminating quick saves? Everyone has done it because we dont like to be accountable for our actions: quick save-> try to pick someones' pocket/attempt to open a Very Hard lock with only one bobbypin/ murder everyone in town for lols -> reload save and carry on like nothing happened/reattempt action without getting cought.
IMO, nothing screems 'ITS A GAME MORON' like quick saving every 5 mins because you want the GAME to play out exactly like you want or no way at all. One may even argue it's more emmersion killing that fast travel. I would.
 

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I'm going to go opposite of what everyones saying.

Fast travel to indoor locations please!

I played Oblivion a total of two-fucking-many times, and it became a pain in the ass when I just couldn't fast travel directly to where I wanted to go. Nice cities et-all, but still, if there's going to be a fast travel option just go all the way.