Therumancer said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
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Let me clear this up...
You are saying that racism, sexism, and homophobia have their valid points? Is this correct?
Please explain what any of them could possibly be, this should be entertaining.
No, I am saying that it's not entirely that catagory. You have chosen to put it there, but that's on you, not the situation itself.
That's the last thing I'm going to say in regards to this. If your curious, go check out what he other side has to say with an open mind, but I doubt you will. The truth is somewhere between there and your current position as far as I'm concerned.
I am not going to be baited into actually argueing the issue of gay rights, no matter how off handedly. Indeed I've been very careful in what I've said to avoid that. What's more my point has kind of been made by the responses I've received, since this was all about an ongoing deadlock, and backlash. There are people just as fanatical on the other side, who if I said the same thing and referred them to people like you, I'd get the same basic response and attempts to turn it into a fight on the subject rather than just taking it as an explanation of why the conflict exists. As long as people like you on this side, and people like them on the others keep it up, it's going to be an endless cycle and nothing will be resolved.
I think I found the definitive list of reasons why gay people should not be allowed to marry.
1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control.
2. Heterosexual marriages are valid becasue they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children.
3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are property, blacks can't marry whites, and divorce is illegal.
6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.
7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire counrty. That's why we have only one religion in America.
8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
10. Children can never suceed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to things like cars or longer lifespans.
12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "seperate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Seperate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as seperate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
These are literally the best reasons I've seen given as to why gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry.