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Daystar Clarion said:
Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.

Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.

If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
Religion is fine, until people get involved.

But in terms of the OP: And people wonder why I wish all religions would make informed decisions about things and not what a book written by people we would throw into an insane asylum today!
 

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A standing ovation for a small child singing about how gays are going to Hell. This just astounds me. Everyone just laughs and cheers like it's the cutest damned thing they've ever seen. I'm seriously at a loss of words to express my disappointment.
Exactly my thought. Kids will do whatever their parents think is cute. The standing ovation from the room full of people and the guy proudly crowing, "That's my boy!" are far and away the most disturbing part of this.

"Our beliefs dictate that some people will be tortured for an eternal afterlife. This kid just reminded us of eternal torture of a fellow human being. Cue the standing ovation."

Even if you subscribe to the rather goofy belief system, why is that cause for applause? Is next week "Ain't no adulterers gonna make it to heaven"? Then Atheists, Hindus, and those who covet their neighbor's goods?
 

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>.> Most religion has always been against Homosexuals it not a surprise that the would teach there children the same thing, I honestly do not understand why you all are so surprised.
 

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wow.....they are really going ape shit over that

YEEEAAAAHH!! HOMOPHOBIA IS AWSOME!!

or mabye they are just giving the kid a big round of appluse....lyrics and hate aside it is cute
It is more like "Our right to have marriage unaffected by gay marriage that will not effect our marriage or Church is more important to than few thousand rights gay couples who likely have far better relationships than any one in our church has being able to have such rights!" but I like the one you gave, it is more condensed and holds the same weight. Far easier to chant at those morons as well. Mine is even bad as an acronym.
 

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well good, by their text Hitler has a good chance of being in Heaven... do you want to spend eternity with Hitler?
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.

Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.

If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
THIS! This is one of the best answers Ive read in a forum post for sometime. Bravo, just bravo! Stupid people will always be around and will always find something to put up as a front for their atrocious behavior.
 

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TheYellowCellPhone said:
I could slew around a few quotes, like Napoleon's "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich," but I don't think it would fit the given context. Plus, people get mad.
You mean like Marx's "Religion is the opiate of the masses"

BathorysGraveland said:
I certainly wouldn't call it child abuse. More like the parents teaching their child their own personal beliefs which they see as correct.
I originally saw this on MSNBC (on one of their more liberal shows) and they were able to make that link. They're teaching their kids hate, which ultimately hurts them--or something like that. It makes sense.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.

Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.

If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
Did I not reply to you? Oh well, sorry if I already did. So anyways coming back to quickly read through this thread and finding all the tangential arguments surfacing all over the place I find you reply one of the most quoted. Very interesting what you said and to a considerable degree I agree. :)
 

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what a sad state, people are cheering a kid for singing something he more than likely does not understand, a song that is more than likely his parents putting him up to sing. I pity that kid, but the adults who clapped and cheered should all be neutered
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
Like politics. Or music. Or games. Or those other things people get really pissed off and argue the toss about but to a lesser degree than religion.

OT: Hah. I don't care if I don't make it to their heaven, mine will have blackjack and hookers.
 

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And my parents wonder why I hate kids. They just follow what they're told in the end, and blast their stupidity across.

And, the Bible's not right. It states that women are the most precious thing a man can have, and then some other ancient texts related to the Bible say that woman are just sexual-objects. The Bible can't even get itself right - so who the hell is this kid to say it is, especially when all the RME teachers leave out all the gorey and mature stuff and religion gets so much hate for, and claim that they're just bigots?

Sorry if I rambled on, but honestly, this fucking pisses me off to no end.
 

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SkarKrow said:
Daystar Clarion said:
If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
Like politics. Or music. Or games. Or those other things people get really pissed off and argue the toss about but to a lesser degree than religion.

OT: Hah. I don't care if I don't make it to their heaven, mine will have blackjack and hookers.
In fact... forget the heaven part!
 

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Religious fanatics, right up there on the top list of reasons why I have less and less faith in humanity.

Poor kid.
 

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CrazyJew said:
SkarKrow said:
Daystar Clarion said:
If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
Like politics. Or music. Or games. Or those other things people get really pissed off and argue the toss about but to a lesser degree than religion.

OT: Hah. I don't care if I don't make it to their heaven, mine will have blackjack and hookers.
In fact... forget the heaven part!
Ah just the screw the whole thing! xD
 

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Really?! I mean... fucking really?!

People are calling this child abuse, indoctrination, vile, I call it fucking retarded. Seriously, in the age old question when did anyone ever know what God's opinion on homosexuals is? Who are they to judge?

No disrespect to peaceful people of faith but it is shit like this experienced in real life that made me reject organised religion. Especially what they are doing to this kid? I am hoping this kid does not understand what he is say because I sure as hell would have at that age. Now I kept this in the off topic section to avoid making this a (flaming argument) strictly religious debate (which it will unfortunately become without a doubt) so what do you gals and guys have to say about this?
KEEP IT CIVIL


NOTE: I am pretty miffed by this video and thus my OP is pretty much nonsensical so I will now leave this forum and allow you hopefully (not gonna happen) have a civil, open discussion about this. And please Do not include me in it because if the OP is any evidence, I am not thinking straight. That includes backhanded, sarcastic remarks.
Nice christ picture.

OT: Chances are, the kid doesn't understand what he's singing and is simply performing so that he will get parental approval (or at least avoid punishment) but yeah, it would be nice if we as Christians could get a consistent definition or rating of importance of specific individual bible verses.

Personally I am waiting for the pilgrimage of the Jacket. Where Christians from all over the world go to some small town in the middle east carrying a new jacket to give it to a small statue of Saint Paul, simply because St paul said to some guy in the 1st century "bring me a jacket".
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.

Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.

If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
I've always felt that religion is a needed aspect of reality, for two reasons.

For one, I'm not too keen on living in a world where we're just resigned to this being it, so that's my personal opinion on the ideas of religion, but more importantly, it's served as a binding agent for society for thousands of years. Maybe some feel that it's evil or unneeded, but I doubt a case could be made that there was a better force for bringing together people. Even if it's not true and there is nothing out there, at least it's played a roll in forming civilizations. I doubt we'd have nearly as much to be proud of as a race without religion. Even if its time of relevance is fading away, which I'm not too sure it is, we should give it credit for playing a big part in human advancement.

Oh, and bigots need no flag or religion. Removing it wouldn't stop stupid. No force can defeat stupid.

OT: Hopefully a point will come where the child will realize what he said, and hang his head, otherwise he'll just grow into one of the audience. Here's hoping, eh?
 

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Ignorance, get it in them young before they form analytical thinking skills.

(Why do you churches want you to take kids more then anything else.)
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.

Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.

If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
most people can pretty much make a religious following out of anything
political parties, sci-fi novels and writers - looking at L. Ron Hubbard and George Lucas
so yes, I'd have to agree with you
for the most part, religion (at least the major branches) do not actively tell you to hurt others in any way shape or form, it is the people who only take small portions of the big picture in order to suit their individualistic views
 

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silver wolf009 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.

Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.

If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
I've always felt that religion is a needed aspect of reality, for two reasons.

For one, I'm not too keen on living in a world where we're just resigned to this being it, so that's my personal opinion on the ideas of religion, but more importantly, it's served as a binding agent for society for thousands of years. Maybe some feel that it's evil or unneeded, but I doubt a case could be made that there was a better force for bringing together people. Even if it's not true and there is nothing out there, at least it's played a roll in forming civilizations. I doubt we'd have nearly as much to be proud of as a race without religion. Even if its time of relevance is fading away, which I'm not too sure it is, we should give it credit for playing a big part in human advancement.

Oh, and bigots need no flag or religion. Removing it wouldn't stop stupid. No force can defeat stupid.

OT: Hopefully a point will come where the child will realize what he said, and hang his head, otherwise he'll just grow into one of the audience. Here's hoping, eh?
Agreed.
And for anyone worrying that only America has so many bigots and fanatics, we in Poland have more. And they gather each 10th of the each month around the Presidential Palace in Warsaw, yell, chant religious songs and throw things at pepole. All that because a plane carrying half of the ruling party including the president and his wife crashed near Smolensk two years ago.
Not only that, but they blame it on the rest of the government, which aren't very nice and intelligent either. Just lovely.

Hopefully no one has found this offensive.

On a side note: I think that I've clicked a Red Button in someone's badges, and everyone's avatar depicts J.Bieber now. Should've listened to the warnings.
 

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Bolwing said:
silver wolf009 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.

Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.

If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
I've always felt that religion is a needed aspect of reality, for two reasons.

For one, I'm not too keen on living in a world where we're just resigned to this being it, so that's my personal opinion on the ideas of religion, but more importantly, it's served as a binding agent for society for thousands of years. Maybe some feel that it's evil or unneeded, but I doubt a case could be made that there was a better force for bringing together people. Even if it's not true and there is nothing out there, at least it's played a roll in forming civilizations. I doubt we'd have nearly as much to be proud of as a race without religion. Even if its time of relevance is fading away, which I'm not too sure it is, we should give it credit for playing a big part in human advancement.

Oh, and bigots need no flag or religion. Removing it wouldn't stop stupid. No force can defeat stupid.

OT: Hopefully a point will come where the child will realize what he said, and hang his head, otherwise he'll just grow into one of the audience. Here's hoping, eh?
Agreed.
And for anyone worrying that only America has so many bigots and fanatics, we in Poland have more. And they gather each 10th of the each month around the Presidential Palace in Warsaw, yell, chant religious songs and throw things at pepole. All that because a plane carrying half of the ruling party including the president and his wife crashed near Smolensk two years ago.
Not only that, but they blame it on the rest of the government, which aren't very nice and intelligent either. Just lovely.

Hopefully no one has found this offensive.
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