It's like they're just TRYING to make it harder for people like me to call themselves Christians. Believe it or not, though, these people WILL believe that they're the ones being persecuted.
Pretty much this. I don't think we really need to go into detail about how reprehensible the actions in the video are.MasterOfHisOwnDomain said:I would be offended, but fortunately there is not going to be a heaven for me, those people, the children or anyone because it doesn't exist. There will just be infinite nothingness. How's that for a sing-song?
I would argue that faith is safe.Daystar Clarion said:Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.
Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.
If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
Here is a good example of my point. The "group" of America is collectively put up for the actions of a small group of faithfuls. [And yes, I am hard pressed to find support that hardline bigoted people are a majority stake in the US.]Dr. Pepper Unlimited said:I read it, watch a few moments of the video and feel...SSDD folks. Welcome to America everyone. We're a bunch of idiots....
Religion is fine, until people get involved.Daystar Clarion said:Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.
Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.
If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
Exactly my thought. Kids will do whatever their parents think is cute. The standing ovation from the room full of people and the guy proudly crowing, "That's my boy!" are far and away the most disturbing part of this.Instant K4rma said:A standing ovation for a small child singing about how gays are going to Hell. This just astounds me. Everyone just laughs and cheers like it's the cutest damned thing they've ever seen. I'm seriously at a loss of words to express my disappointment.
It is more like "Our right to have marriage unaffected by gay marriage that will not effect our marriage or Church is more important to than few thousand rights gay couples who likely have far better relationships than any one in our church has being able to have such rights!" but I like the one you gave, it is more condensed and holds the same weight. Far easier to chant at those morons as well. Mine is even bad as an acronym.Vault101 said:wow.....they are really going ape shit over that
YEEEAAAAHH!! HOMOPHOBIA IS AWSOME!!
or mabye they are just giving the kid a big round of appluse....lyrics and hate aside it is cute
THIS! This is one of the best answers Ive read in a forum post for sometime. Bravo, just bravo! Stupid people will always be around and will always find something to put up as a front for their atrocious behavior.Daystar Clarion said:Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.
Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.
If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
You mean like Marx's "Religion is the opiate of the masses"TheYellowCellPhone said:I could slew around a few quotes, like Napoleon's "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich," but I don't think it would fit the given context. Plus, people get mad.
I originally saw this on MSNBC (on one of their more liberal shows) and they were able to make that link. They're teaching their kids hate, which ultimately hurts them--or something like that. It makes sense.BathorysGraveland said:I certainly wouldn't call it child abuse. More like the parents teaching their child their own personal beliefs which they see as correct.
Did I not reply to you? Oh well, sorry if I already did. So anyways coming back to quickly read through this thread and finding all the tangential arguments surfacing all over the place I find you reply one of the most quoted. Very interesting what you said and to a considerable degree I agree.Daystar Clarion said:Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.
Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.
If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
Like politics. Or music. Or games. Or those other things people get really pissed off and argue the toss about but to a lesser degree than religion.Daystar Clarion said:If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
In fact... forget the heaven part!SkarKrow said:Like politics. Or music. Or games. Or those other things people get really pissed off and argue the toss about but to a lesser degree than religion.Daystar Clarion said:If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
OT: Hah. I don't care if I don't make it to their heaven, mine will have blackjack and hookers.
Ah just the screw the whole thing! xDCrazyJew said:In fact... forget the heaven part!SkarKrow said:Like politics. Or music. Or games. Or those other things people get really pissed off and argue the toss about but to a lesser degree than religion.Daystar Clarion said:If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.
OT: Hah. I don't care if I don't make it to their heaven, mine will have blackjack and hookers.
Nice christ picture.Saulkar said:Really?! I mean... fucking really?!
People are calling this child abuse, indoctrination, vile, I call it fucking retarded. Seriously, in the age old question when did anyone ever know what God's opinion on homosexuals is? Who are they to judge?
No disrespect to peaceful people of faith but it is shit like this experienced in real life that made me reject organised religion. Especially what they are doing to this kid? I am hoping this kid does not understand what he is say because I sure as hell would have at that age. Now I kept this in the off topic section to avoid making this a (flaming argument) strictly religious debate (which it will unfortunately become without a doubt) so what do you gals and guys have to say about this?
KEEP IT CIVIL
NOTE: I am pretty miffed by this video and thus my OP is pretty much nonsensical so I will now leave this forum and allow you hopefully (not gonna happen) have a civil, open discussion about this. And please Do not include me in it because if the OP is any evidence, I am not thinking straight. That includes backhanded, sarcastic remarks.
I've always felt that religion is a needed aspect of reality, for two reasons.Daystar Clarion said:Religion on its own, isn't a bad thing.
Stupid people who use religion as a shield is what sucks.
If there was no religion, morons would find some other following to get behind to voice their bigoted views.