Anonymous on PSN Outage: "For Once We Didn't Do It"
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This is why you can't think of Anonymous as an organization. It's just everyone. Some members of Anonymous aren't responsible. Others might be (unless it really is internal issues). Anonymous are not an organized group and we can't really refer to them as such.
I'm actually inclined to believe that AnonOps at least had nothing to do with it if they said so, they don't seem to avoid taking responsibility for what they've done, and maybe it was just some random Anon.
And about the facebook post, even though the second part is a bit incriminating, it could just be that after the network went down and they got blamed by someone for it, some Anon with posting ability took the opportunity to urge people to get off the games and make a minor defense against accusations. But I'm not an Anon so I don't really know.
And about the facebook post, even though the second part is a bit incriminating, it could just be that after the network went down and they got blamed by someone for it, some Anon with posting ability took the opportunity to urge people to get off the games and make a minor defense against accusations. But I'm not an Anon so I don't really know.
Exactly. Well, the attacks are obviously organized in some fashion, but the people doing them use the meme Anonymous as a label.snowman6251 said:
There can't be factions of Anonymous because Anonymous doesn't exist.
Could be either one. I though Anon tried to attack before but Sony handled it nicely.
If it is an internal conflict inside anonymous (which the facebook post is pretty damning) then those little script kiddies will go pretty far in their attempts to escape the law won't they?
To think all this started with some idiot thinking it was OK to give pirates the keys to the PS3's room.
If it is an internal conflict inside anonymous (which the facebook post is pretty damning) then those little script kiddies will go pretty far in their attempts to escape the law won't they?
To think all this started with some idiot thinking it was OK to give pirates the keys to the PS3's room.
They didn't really have a purpose when they attacked PSN. Unless it was to piss people off who had no bearing on Sony or the court case. They even had to backpedal from the anger that could've been avoided if they'd taken the time to asses what their actions would mean. Sony isn't really hurt since its a free service and Plus content is still available.Baresark said:
The problem with Anonymous is that there is no formal group. While that does prevent every single person from being caught or targeted by police or companies, it also prevents us from being protected by their antics. A good comparison would be that Anonymous is like Mass Effect's Cerberus. There is no single unified group, it is composed of various splinter groups and factions aswell as individuals who all basically work towards a single goal (Though there may be some individuals who are looked up to or respected the same as the 'Illusive Man' from Mass Effect, one example is 'Wise Beard Man' who a fair number of Anon protesters look up to in the fight against Scientology). While they all refer to themselves as Anonymous, that doesn't mean that they are noble or good like one group is. So if ANYONE from Anonymous commits a illegal or bystander affecting action, it basically brings a negative image to ALL Anonymous members.
Re posting this.
Source [http://26star.com/profiles/blogs/psn-signin-problem-due-to].
tl;dr edition: it's not Anonomous, but rather something in Sony of Japan broke.
Source [http://26star.com/profiles/blogs/psn-signin-problem-due-to].
tl;dr edition: it's not Anonomous, but rather something in Sony of Japan broke.
This is me not being surprisedDelusibeta said:Re posting this.
Source [http://26star.com/profiles/blogs/psn-signin-problem-due-to].
tl;dr edition: it's not Anonomous, but rather something in Sony of Japan broke.
I personally had both. Planning on getting a new 360 soon since mine RROD after 5 years of abuse. I prefer the 360 online to the PS3 and the 1 PS3 exclusive game that I have is pretty forgettable IMO. Planning on buying other PS3 exclusive and hopefully they won't be too forgettable.tghm1801 said:I'm guessing you have an X360Thunderhorse31 said:That's what you get when you run a network that no one pays to access.
The three people Sony pays to maintain it must be working around the clock to get it back up by the weekend, maybe.
They are probably the MOST scary of any set of the Hacker levels because they have NO IDEA what the fuck they are actually doing. They say oh hey I have this program that can do this. But is that all it does? Someone could make a program and release it out to the script kiddies that when enough people use it it hijacks the computers and shuts down the internet as a whole. Yeah its not the script kiddies that programed it but its their stupidity for not know what the program is that they are using.Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
They did outright state the reason for their attack on Sony when they did attack Sony. Since they didn't disable the the PSN by their own admission this time, it's literally stupid to blame them. Even if they did, they have no reason to fear openly admitting to it. No one knows who the members are, besides them of course. Why would they deny it, if they did do it?gphjr14 said:
I'm just saying that people said it was a splinter group of them. Just because the names are similar, doesn't mean they have anything to do with Anonymous (the group responsible for overloading the Sony website, not shutting down PSN). If anything, other individuals seemed to have made their name similar because people in the video game community do know who Anonymous is, as a group.
In any event, this wouldn't hurt Sony in the long run at all. Really, all this did was make it so people couldn't play their games online, mostly hurting the end users. I don't like Sony as a company, and while I agreed with Geohotz, at no point did I agree with punishing the end users of the PSN.
My theory: Anonymous did it, but doesn't want to man up to having done it.
I'm also not moved by statements that Anonymous has no central chain of command or whatever. It's clear to me that their members do share common ideals and beliefs, and apparently among those beliefs is the idea that if someone takes measures to prevent piracy on a console, you've got to try and hurt them as much as possible. I suppose I should be thankful that the best they can muster is script-kiddie attacks and tiny physical protests, rather than violent attacks like a more, shall we say, "advanced" terrorist organization.
I'm also not moved by statements that Anonymous has no central chain of command or whatever. It's clear to me that their members do share common ideals and beliefs, and apparently among those beliefs is the idea that if someone takes measures to prevent piracy on a console, you've got to try and hurt them as much as possible. I suppose I should be thankful that the best they can muster is script-kiddie attacks and tiny physical protests, rather than violent attacks like a more, shall we say, "advanced" terrorist organization.
