So what exactly shouldn't women do?Jadedvet said:Wow.. Way to completely miss the entire point of my post.Blow_Pop said:Yes because women who get raped obviously have put themselves into a dangerous situation. Way to victim blame. Basically what you are saying is that any girl who gets raped by her boyfriend has put herself into a dangerous situation. And that any girl who goes out to have fun with her friends in celebration or whatever is automatically putting herself into a dangerous situation. Which is illogical. This is basically what you are implying. You might want to rethink that because I and I am sure other people resent that implication.
Look at the first part of what I said. I don't think situation, in any way, excuses a rapist from the consequences. The victim has done no moral wrong and doesn't deserve any scorn from the public.
Not every rape victim can foresee and prevent the rape which is why I said often and not always. That said, pretending that the situation is never preventable is both foolish and dangerous. I'm sorry if that idea offends you.
My point is not to blame victims but to advocate a bit of common sense and education. The prevention of preventable rapes is what I'm looking for here.
I'm fairly certain that if they could foresee and prevent the rape they probably wouldn't be rape victims.Jadedvet said:Not every rape victim can foresee and prevent the rape which is why I said often and not always. That said, pretending that the situation is never preventable is both foolish and dangerous. I'm sorry if that idea offends you.
Considering I have been told that all my rapes were preventable and I should have been able to foresee them. And none of them were foreseeable except to have the knowledge I do now (and none of them were me going out drinking or walking in dark alleys or dating "bad" guys. And yes I read the entire post.Jadedvet said:Wow.. Way to completely miss the entire point of my post.Blow_Pop said:Yes because women who get raped obviously have put themselves into a dangerous situation. Way to victim blame. Basically what you are saying is that any girl who gets raped by her boyfriend has put herself into a dangerous situation. And that any girl who goes out to have fun with her friends in celebration or whatever is automatically putting herself into a dangerous situation. Which is illogical. This is basically what you are implying. You might want to rethink that because I and I am sure other people resent that implication.
Look at the first part of what I said. I don't think situation, in any way, excuses a rapist from the consequences. The victim has done no moral wrong and doesn't deserve any scorn from the public.
Not every rape victim can foresee and prevent the rape which is why I said often and not always. That said, pretending that the situation is never preventable is both foolish and dangerous. I'm sorry if that idea offends you.
My point is not to blame victims but to advocate a bit of common sense and education. The prevention of preventable rapes is what I'm looking for here.
Alright, I can sort of see what you're getting at, but clarification would be good.thaluikhain said:snip
Its also a people in general as its not just men who rape. I know this is talking about clothing for women but I have had issues with this since I first saw a post on tumblr about it a few months ago.Jadedvet said:Eeeee0000- For starters listen to friends and family . Yes, as Blowpop points out, not everyone has the benefit of such advice.
Drinking is fine but consider where you are before getting drunk - yes some parties should be avoided. I'm not a scary looking guy but I've never dated anyone who would get drunk without trusted company around. Eventually that was me but not at first.
Blowpop - I'm really sorry that happened to you, seriously.
My perspective comes from knowing someone who had plenty of good advice regarding her "bad boy" of a boyfriend, chose to ignore it and got hurt. I gave only sympathy - not an "I told you so" since it was too late at that point.
To be perfectly clear, she made a mistake that cost her but the wrongdoing was on him and him alone.
Slash - Men should know better and those who cannot control themselves should be put away. That doesn't change the fact there are still plenty of neanderthals lurking about.
Uh, that video is nothing but victim blaming, strawmen and misogyny. Hell, I'll go as far and say it's profoundly misandrist as well, with the idea that men cannot be taught simple concepts such as consent.Mozza444 said:I would recommend this video to everybody in this thread:
Rapists know rape is wrong, it's punishable by law.Skull Bearer said:Uh, that video is nothing but victim blaming, strawmen and misogyny. Hell, I'll go as far and say it's profoundly misandrist as well, with the idea that men cannot be taught simple concepts such as consent.
It's seriously sick.
I figure if a girl trusts a guy, and knows him, then the odds of her wearing the special underwear when she's around him are smaller.Zachary Amaranth said:Asita said:Huzzah if it works as advertised, but I don't understand how exactly they'd make something like that for a pair of briefs, at least not to any extent that provides more than a short distraction.Yes, but anything that slows a rapist down is going to benefit the potential target. You can still get into a locked door, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't bother locking it.Lionsfan said:So it's just underwear that's hard to take off?
I mean, they can still be taken off right?
I'm not sure why that changes anything, but yes.Also, don't most rapes occur between someone the girl knows?
Also, I'm not sure that specifically changes the activities involved, since people you know can go clubbing or on dates or even jogging.