Apple Disses DS and PSP at iPod Event

Robert632

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this is like a fat lion telling the sleek and fit lioness' to go fuck a duck. and to be honest, i'm not that surprised. the reason for that is that apple's whole campaign has been try to be an arrogant douche to the compatition.(this started with the pc vs mac ads of course.)
 

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Bored Tomatoe said:
y8c616 said:
IDBash said:
Apple is a giant pig-headed company that hates its users as much as it hates its competetion that needs to go die... alone. I hate the company and do not own or support any product from them.

That said, Zune HD is gonna kick the iTouch's ass and even the Zune HD does not stand on level footing as the PSP or DSi on the gaming side of life. (I am not fond of PSP or the DSi as well, a bit too casual for my taste)

Edit: For those who may not know, the Zune HD has the new Tegra processor in it along with HD radio, OLED, games & apps, social, zune pass, and a slew of other things that I am not going to bother mentioning...
Hmm i smell a bit of M$ Fanboyism here; and you can say the Zune beats the iPod touch when it takes over its immense market share.(Which of course it never will)

Bored Tomatoe said:
When they can make an apple product that isn't overpriced garbage, then they can have the tiniest shred of respect from me. Until then they need to stop bashing superior handhelds and stick to hawking their shiny expensive things.
Apple stuff is more expensive cos its better; making the jump from PC to Mac may have cost me a shitload of money, but frankly it's worth every penny to be free of all that M$ bullshit
Can uh, can your Mac run Crysis? What's that? NO? Really? Then please silence your mouth. I had an ipod, it was terrible, I now have a zune, it was great. My family had a macbook, and every single one of us hated the damn thing. More money=/=better. Although I must applaud Steve Jobs for being able to sell an inferior product for 4 times what it is worth.
Yeah if i had bootcamp on my mac, i could run Crysis easily. The zune? Its another example of M$ being late to the party with a product that is a sad, cheap ripoff of their rivals. You must have a family of M$ fanboys by the sound of it; my family hate their windows systems, while i get on with my mac fine. If you wanna get started on inferiour products, remember that M$ have not made a good OS since 2001.
I agree that More money=/=better, but in certain cases, eg with a mac, it is
 

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y8c616 said:
Bored Tomatoe said:
y8c616 said:
IDBash said:
Apple is a giant pig-headed company that hates its users as much as it hates its competetion that needs to go die... alone. I hate the company and do not own or support any product from them.

That said, Zune HD is gonna kick the iTouch's ass and even the Zune HD does not stand on level footing as the PSP or DSi on the gaming side of life. (I am not fond of PSP or the DSi as well, a bit too casual for my taste)

Edit: For those who may not know, the Zune HD has the new Tegra processor in it along with HD radio, OLED, games & apps, social, zune pass, and a slew of other things that I am not going to bother mentioning...
Hmm i smell a bit of M$ Fanboyism here; and you can say the Zune beats the iPod touch when it takes over its immense market share.(Which of course it never will)

Bored Tomatoe said:
When they can make an apple product that isn't overpriced garbage, then they can have the tiniest shred of respect from me. Until then they need to stop bashing superior handhelds and stick to hawking their shiny expensive things.
Apple stuff is more expensive cos its better; making the jump from PC to Mac may have cost me a shitload of money, but frankly it's worth every penny to be free of all that M$ bullshit
Can uh, can your Mac run Crysis? What's that? NO? Really? Then please silence your mouth. I had an ipod, it was terrible, I now have a zune, it was great. My family had a macbook, and every single one of us hated the damn thing. More money=/=better. Although I must applaud Steve Jobs for being able to sell an inferior product for 4 times what it is worth.
Yeah if i had bootcamp on my mac, i could run Crysis easily. The zune? Its another example of M$ being late to the party with a product that is a sad, cheap ripoff of their rivals. You must have a family of M$ fanboys by the sound of it; my family hate their windows systems, while i get on with my mac fine. If you wanna get started on inferiour products, remember that M$ have not made a good OS since 2001.
I agree that More money=/=better, but in certain cases, eg with a mac, it is
By the look of it you hate microsoft as much as I hate apple. Agree to disagree?
 

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Heh, dubious quality is dubious, or are iPhoners still bragging about their MGS4. In the end i'd rather pay $20 for a mediocre PSP/DS game (plenty) than $1-5 for for a flash quality iPhone game (most o em'), and $30-40 for a great PSP/DS game (a good count) than $10 for an okay "extra mode" iPhone sequence (a few).
 

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Bored Tomatoe said:
y8c616 said:
Bored Tomatoe said:
y8c616 said:
IDBash said:
Apple is a giant pig-headed company that hates its users as much as it hates its competetion that needs to go die... alone. I hate the company and do not own or support any product from them.

That said, Zune HD is gonna kick the iTouch's ass and even the Zune HD does not stand on level footing as the PSP or DSi on the gaming side of life. (I am not fond of PSP or the DSi as well, a bit too casual for my taste)

Edit: For those who may not know, the Zune HD has the new Tegra processor in it along with HD radio, OLED, games & apps, social, zune pass, and a slew of other things that I am not going to bother mentioning...
Hmm i smell a bit of M$ Fanboyism here; and you can say the Zune beats the iPod touch when it takes over its immense market share.(Which of course it never will)

Bored Tomatoe said:
When they can make an apple product that isn't overpriced garbage, then they can have the tiniest shred of respect from me. Until then they need to stop bashing superior handhelds and stick to hawking their shiny expensive things.
Apple stuff is more expensive cos its better; making the jump from PC to Mac may have cost me a shitload of money, but frankly it's worth every penny to be free of all that M$ bullshit
Can uh, can your Mac run Crysis? What's that? NO? Really? Then please silence your mouth. I had an ipod, it was terrible, I now have a zune, it was great. My family had a macbook, and every single one of us hated the damn thing. More money=/=better. Although I must applaud Steve Jobs for being able to sell an inferior product for 4 times what it is worth.
Yeah if i had bootcamp on my mac, i could run Crysis easily. The zune? Its another example of M$ being late to the party with a product that is a sad, cheap ripoff of their rivals. You must have a family of M$ fanboys by the sound of it; my family hate their windows systems, while i get on with my mac fine. If you wanna get started on inferiour products, remember that M$ have not made a good OS since 2001.
I agree that More money=/=better, but in certain cases, eg with a mac, it is
By the look of it you hate microsoft as much as I hate apple. Agree to disagree?
Yeah ok; i only hate MS due to years of being personally dissatisfied with their products that ive bought; same with you and Apple by the sound of it, so yeah, i'll agree to disagree.
 

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theultimateend said:
Froobyx said:
Whistler777 said:
Teenage girls \=\ gamers.
Scuse me, I find that quite rude.

I'm a teenager, a girl, wouldn't dare buy an iPhone/pod/touch. And I have quite a few consoles in my bedroom so I am a gamer too.

Saying teenage girls aren't gamers, pfft...
Holy crap!

I found her! I found the teenage girl who plays games!

That makes one! Now she only has to outweigh the millions and millions of teenage girls that aren't her!

No really. One person is a perfect sampling size for an absolutely massive population.
It's too late at night, I can't tell whether you're being a sarcastic twat, jerk or being nice :/
 

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y8c616 said:
Bored Tomatoe said:
y8c616 said:
IDBash said:
Apple is a giant pig-headed company that hates its users as much as it hates its competetion that needs to go die... alone. I hate the company and do not own or support any product from them.

That said, Zune HD is gonna kick the iTouch's ass and even the Zune HD does not stand on level footing as the PSP or DSi on the gaming side of life. (I am not fond of PSP or the DSi as well, a bit too casual for my taste)

Edit: For those who may not know, the Zune HD has the new Tegra processor in it along with HD radio, OLED, games & apps, social, zune pass, and a slew of other things that I am not going to bother mentioning...
Hmm i smell a bit of M$ Fanboyism here; and you can say the Zune beats the iPod touch when it takes over its immense market share.(Which of course it never will)

Bored Tomatoe said:
When they can make an apple product that isn't overpriced garbage, then they can have the tiniest shred of respect from me. Until then they need to stop bashing superior handhelds and stick to hawking their shiny expensive things.
Apple stuff is more expensive cos its better; making the jump from PC to Mac may have cost me a shitload of money, but frankly it's worth every penny to be free of all that M$ bullshit
Can uh, can your Mac run Crysis? What's that? NO? Really? Then please silence your mouth. I had an ipod, it was terrible, I now have a zune, it was great. My family had a macbook, and every single one of us hated the damn thing. More money=/=better. Although I must applaud Steve Jobs for being able to sell an inferior product for 4 times what it is worth.
Yeah if i had bootcamp on my mac, i could run Crysis easily. The zune? Its another example of M$ being late to the party with a product that is a sad, cheap ripoff of their rivals. You must have a family of M$ fanboys by the sound of it; my family hate their windows systems, while i get on with my mac fine. If you wanna get started on inferiour products, remember that M$ have not made a good OS since 2001.
I agree that More money=/=better, but in certain cases, eg with a mac, it is
Kettle? This is Pot. Just wanted to remind you that you're fucking black.
 

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I'm going to be the minority and side with Apple here. Though the iPhone can't quite compete with the PSP or DS in games yet, there's a lot about it that makes it better.
Firstly, the DS can't really do anything but play games. OK, sure DSi can now connect to the web or whatever, but I think-- sorry, I KNOW iPhone is much better at surfing the web than a DS is. PSP has a fair few entertainment features, but again, how well do these features actually work? The internet on a PSP is slow. The music volume is just bad. I'd always rather have an iPod than listen to music of a PSP or DS. As for gaming, let's just be honest, iPhone's never going to beat PSP or DS. Why? Let's see.
"Apple outlined four things that make the PSP and DS worse for gaming: "No Multi-Touch user interface. Games are expensive. No App Store. No iPod."
But that's the thing, iPhone ONLY has a touch screen. Without additional controls you just can't keep gamers interested for long, let alone make a game immersive enough.
However that being said, PSP's and DS's games aren't that strong anymore.
Now that Nintendo are making "games for your mum" there's no point in even looking at what they have to offer on DS. As for the PSP, I've never found anything on there interesting. I think I'll stick to PS3/360.
 

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This coming from the guys who make tinker toy technology? Shut up Apple, you guys are assholes. If you want to diss something, go ***** and moan about how people keep buying PC's.
 

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Froobyx said:
It's too late at night, I can't tell whether you're being a sarcastic twat, jerk or being nice :/
That implies that one excludes the others ;)

Firstly, the DS can't really do anything but play games. OK, sure DSi can now connect to the web or whatever, but I think-- sorry, I KNOW iPhone is much better at surfing the web than a DS is.
You know what else is good for surfing the web? A PC. How often do you need to look at the internet on the go?

Now that Nintendo are making "games for your mum" there's no point in even looking at what they have to offer on DS
Of the top 10 games for the DS on metacritic, there's only 1 I would even consider recommending to my mother (that being Meteos). There are plenty of 'gamer' games for the DS and to dismiss it just because it has some shovelware and then in the same breath say that the iPhone is a viable games platform is hypocrisy at best and shockingly ridiculous at worst.
 

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Apple's clams that the iPhone/ iPod is superior to the DS and the PSP?
That gave me the laugh I needed after a long day of work. We are talking a good EPIC sized LOL that could brighten the darkest of times.

iPhone's 21,1878 available games trumps the 3,680 on DS and 607 on PSP
Yes alot of PSP's and DS games are shovel ware, but I also want to point out I am for quality over quantity. How many of those 21,1878 games I ever would bother even downloading for free?
 

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Apple has always been a comparatively large douche bag when it comes to comparing itself to other products. Mac vs. PC commercials piss me off to a point of irrationality.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
Apple has always been a comparatively large douche bag when it comes to comparing itself to other products. Mac vs. PC commercials piss me off to a point of irrationality.
This man speaks truth. Anyone who even think that an Apple computer is in any way more powerful for even graphics is just ridiculous. The only reason it's still an industry standard is because of the fact that Apple did in fact dominate the graphics development market... 10 years ago.

The most powerful Quatro cards aren't even available on Macs. Why would I pay 1000 dollars more for a product that requires a damn emulator to run my games? Anyone who has problems with Windows XP has no freaking clue how to properly maintain a PC. Vista runs fine on newer hardware, though I can admit that it did have a bit of a rocky start.
 

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Amnestic said:
Firstly, the DS can't really do anything but play games. OK, sure DSi can now connect to the web or whatever, but I think-- sorry, I KNOW iPhone is much better at surfing the web than a DS is.
You know what else is good for surfing the web? A PC. How often do you need to look at the internet on the go?
I think the better question is "why would you buy a gaming handheld for something other than games?" This has always confused me, in that yes I understand people would love to have their MP3 players and their phones and their gaming machines all in one bundle but so far, in terms of the handheld gaming market itself, the Game Boy and (to a lesser extent) the DS dominated the market based purely on games, not extra bullshit like TV Tuners (Sega Game Gear) or being a phone (N-Gage).
 

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Apple has been putting way too much confidence in the iTouch. The problem is, it in no way stands up to either other handheld. It's not powerful at all, the games get removed if there's even a hint of offesive material, and a big majority of its games are dwarfed by free flash games. With a PSP, DS, and, you know, an iPod, I see absolutely no reason to buy this.
And notice how they say that the iTouch is the only thing with 'Touch to Touch Compatability?' My DS connects to other DS's much better than an iTouch does... Did ya think that one through, Phil?
 

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I'll admit that the iTouch/iPhone is a nice piece of hardware. It plays music and it does it very well. It's got a nice screen for video playback and the storage is decent. When I got my new phone, though I went for a Blackberry because Blackberries are good phones. It's a bit ridiculous that the iPhone does everything great except e-mail and you know... being a phone.
 

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Froobyx said:
theultimateend said:
Froobyx said:
Whistler777 said:
Teenage girls \=\ gamers.
Scuse me, I find that quite rude.

I'm a teenager, a girl, wouldn't dare buy an iPhone/pod/touch. And I have quite a few consoles in my bedroom so I am a gamer too.

Saying teenage girls aren't gamers, pfft...
Holy crap!

I found her! I found the teenage girl who plays games!

That makes one! Now she only has to outweigh the millions and millions of teenage girls that aren't her!

No really. One person is a perfect sampling size for an absolutely massive population.
It's too late at night, I can't tell whether you're being a sarcastic twat, jerk or being nice :/
I'm being mostly sarcastic, a little bit of a jerk, and also slightly nice. No Twat though.

Pointing out that you are a girl gamer and thusly making the suggestion that teenage girls are gamers (IE its a common thing) is kind of silly. Is it true? Maybe. But a single person is never an accurate model.

Some people smoke all their lives and live longer than people who don't. Do most people? Not at all. Most die earlier. But people tend to grab that one or two unique cases and act like that's the reality.

I've met teenage girls who were gamers, however for the most part they played DDR (which was fine because so was I). I don't however see a large market of girls playing real games in their teen years. If they did I imagine we'd see far less of those hannah montanna PSP packs and more quality games being targeted towards girls instead.

But again, I was more mocking you for using the "If I am A then everyone must be A" mentality ;).
 

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AceDiamond said:
Amnestic said:
Firstly, the DS can't really do anything but play games. OK, sure DSi can now connect to the web or whatever, but I think-- sorry, I KNOW iPhone is much better at surfing the web than a DS is.
You know what else is good for surfing the web? A PC. How often do you need to look at the internet on the go?
I think the better question is "why would you buy a gaming handheld for something other than games?" This has always confused me, in that yes I understand people would love to have their MP3 players and their phones and their gaming machines all in one bundle but so far, in terms of the handheld gaming market itself, the Game Boy and (to a lesser extent) the DS dominated the market based purely on games, not extra bullshit like TV Tuners (Sega Game Gear) or being a phone (N-Gage).
I like to read comic books on my DS. And my friend likes reading them on his PSP. But we both still think that DS, with the touch screen and dual screens gives a better "feel". Almost like a real comic book.