Assassin's Creed III Declares Independence from England

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BristolBerserker said:
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I must say a imperialist....Well, a Englishman.

"You Fools!! You will forever regret leaving the glorious empire!!"
And now those Frenchmen from Ubisoft are going to slander the English! Typical French!

Too bad I effectively swore off Ubisoft games, because I'd be interested in playing this game.
Bloody garlic chewing surrender monkeys..... We fought them for 100 years, saved their country once, then left them in the dirt, only to ride back 5 years later atop a golden horse....

and they dare hold grudge?
Well the studio that makes AC is in Canada so hopefully it won't be a complete one sided 'Yanks=good, Brits=bad' affair. I reckon the main character will be an European child raised by Native Americans or a colonial. Also I want throwing tomahawks. Insta-kill tomahawks.
Yeah, but its French Canada. I don't imagine they have good thoughts of the Brits and our Queen :)
 

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Programmed_For_Damage said:
Playing as an Aztec assassin during the time of the Spanish invasion led by Hernán Cortés would be awesome!
They did, see Assassin's Creed: Project Legacy on Facebook, except you were an undercover Assassin searching for Pieces of Eden in South America because a mighty and cultured civilisation such as the Aztecs might hold such wonders
 

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Programmed_For_Damage said:
Playing as an Aztec assassin during the time of the Spanish invasion led by Hernán Cortés would be awesome!
How would that work though? The Aztecs were annihilated, and Cortes completely destroyed their empire. Talk about a depressing ending.
 

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Airsoftslayer93 said:
Tall buildings?
My concern exactly - the first two Assassin's Creed games were in settings filled with grandiose architecture... I'm not exactly an expert on American history but I'm pretty sure it was a long time before the Americans really started building upwards.
 

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I think he's a Native American. Tomahawk? Check. Hunting bow slung across his back? Check. Deerskin pants? Check. Relatively darker skin than the Brit he's killing (compare the Brit's skin tone on the face with the Assassin's fingers next to it for best comparison)? Check. It adds up for me. And as for this guy being a descendant of a European, anyone who's played Age of Empires III knows that Europeans most definitely got it on with the Native Americans in the world of American-Revolution-era games.
 

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I don't know if the city traversing will be up to scratch. I don't know much about 18th century American cities, but I'm under the impression that they were mostly wooden. Also, most of the famous landmarks weren't built up to that point.
 

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Totally all for it, so long as the game doesn't glorify america and demonise Britain. After all the founding fathers were Free masons/Templars.... according to some. The british werent the bad guys in that conflict, but the winner writes the history. The French were the bad guys of that era...

If he's an Indian, he'd be fighting the colonials and siding with Britain or against both as history goes (fighting a revolutionary war alongside those that would seek to wipe the Indian populace out in the colonised states and later everywhere else makes very little sense).

Would still like to see the series go to England at some point. I think the writers are just trying to make Desmond's blood as diverse as possible to accomodate every possible story arc, problem is that it can royally screw up the timeline and family tree causing a confusing and broken logic...

Desmond does have an english last name, England was THE powerhouse in the 18th and 19th centuries and London is a perfect setting for freeunning not to mention playing off the Victorian era technology and mystery would be awesome for the following title.
 
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Iron Criterion said:
Apparently it is going to conclude Desmond's story, so we better had get to control him as an assassin...

Also wasn't there supposedly a connection between the Knights Templar, the Masons and the Founding Fathers? Therefore wouldn't the assassins be fighting against the Americans? This box art is making it appear otherwise.
Well, what with the British being all Imperialist(a decidedly Templar-philosophy) at the time, and considering how the U.S turned into crazy Imperialists following the war, my guess is that there's Templars on both sides. Perhaps even playing the nations against each other for some unknown purpose.

My one concern about this is that I don't seem to remember colonial America being home to all that much stunning architecture. Not like Renaissance Italy, at any rate. Then again, I have no idea if I'm right about that or not.

Other then that, I couldn't be more exited. I'm OK if we never focus on Desmond completely, I think he works better as a framing device, anyway.
 

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Darth_Dude said:
Programmed_For_Damage said:
Playing as an Aztec assassin during the time of the Spanish invasion led by Hernán Cortés would be awesome!
How would that work though? The Aztecs were annihilated, and Cortes completely destroyed their empire. Talk about a depressing ending.
How about the Incans instead?

Unlike the Aztecs, the Incan Empire didn't fall all at once, there was fighting and civil wars between Incans and Spaniards throughout the 16th century. (In fact some parts of South America were never truly subdued by Spain) It would be quite feasible that, assuming Ezio has a child with what's her name in Constantinople, that child could go off to New Spain and fight Spaniards there as a sympathiser to the Inca's.

The 30 Years War and the anarchy that produced would have also made an excellent Assassins Creed setting, furthermore, perhaps also the 100 Years War in France as well.

(Canon permitting, note that i haven't played Revelations to the end yet)

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Why is it that the Assassins Creed series is starting to pick on sides i actually like? I wasn't very happy to be fighting against the Byzantine's in Revelations- i would much rather have fought the Ottomans who were in the process of invading and occupying Europe at the time. (Causing political problems that last until today).

It's a bit like a FIFA game were i am not allowed to play as Liverpool and instead am forced to play as Everton or Manchester United against Liverpool. Generally i prefer playing games were the antagonists are actually a side I don't like.
 

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I watched that assassins creed embers movie and I was hoping it would continue off of that. I mean Shao Jun was the last assassin he gave advice too, but I guess it'd be hard to pull off one of Desmond ancestors as a Chinese woman.
 

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My biggest fears about this setting are that colonial architecture was a bit crappy meaning the free-running elements may not be as fun and that Ubisoft will take the safe route of "Founding Fathers are really Assasins, Brits were Templars" giving us bad British accents and making us over the top evil. However, it does have Star Trek's Q doing some voicework again and he's always entertaining.

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As for British gamers? Well, here's one more thing to add to your list of grievances with France.
We don't have a list of grievances, we just hate them on principle.
 

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Let me guess, America and it's people are amazing, beautiful and brilliant whilst the English are a "right ole bunch of wankers."
 

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Triforceformer said:
George Washington is a Templar in the AC universe. Just keep that in mind.
This will mean either the story will be interesting, or Ubisoft will retcon my favourite part of my favourite AC game becauseof time restraints. I have a feeling it's the latter.
 

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There is a lot of potential to reveal how the modern conspiracy of the Templars began in America. There is a lot of mythology behind the Founding Fathers of the United States who according to legend are part of the Free Masons which are a off-shoot of the Knights' Templars. This would be a great way to show how the Templars founded America and consolidated their control over the world starting with their own nation: America.
 
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October 2012? That's ages away. Might be interesting to play a new Ass Creed, fun as Ezio's adventures were. Admittedly I haven't finished Brotherhood yet, let alone made a start on Revolutions or whatever it's called.

Isn't the world ending this year? Will there be enough time to finish this game before the apocalypse?
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
Meh.

I don't see it working well.

As I have pointed out before, Victorian England, the Russian revolution, or the fall of the Aztec empire would work much better.
am i the only one who wanted a assassins creed set in japan?
nobody thought playing as a ninja was the next logical step.
 

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Nickolai77 said:
Darth_Dude said:
Why is it that the Assassins Creed series is starting to pick on sides i actually like? I wasn't very happy to be fighting against the Byzantine's in Revelations- i would much rather have fought the Ottomans who were in the process of invading and occupying Europe at the time. (Causing political problems that last until today).

It's a bit like a FIFA game were i am not allowed to play as Liverpool and instead am forced to play as Everton or Manchester United against Liverpool. Generally i prefer playing games were the antagonists are actually a side I don't like.
It makes sense in the context of the Byzantine situation at the time. They were a fading power, and were Christian to boot.

The whole, 'struggling to regain power' makes them good antagonists, and them being Christians fits into the 'Templar Knights' theme.

It is important to note that the Ottomans arent portrayed as complete good guys in the story, you'll see an example at the end of the game (Dont worry, not a spoiler)

For the record, I was on the Ottomans side and was delighted to find out they were in the game. Me being a Muslim also contributed to that. :p
 

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Where this goes remains to be seen, I don't know anything, I could see it going in a few differant directions. Overall though two things can be said about this:

#1: The typical "Assassin's Creed" appearance doesn't work. It could be argued that the cloaked pseudo-hoodie look could fit in either in the middle ages or to an extent in the renaissance where I think it was pushing it for "indiscreet" since having your hood up that much would have been unusual in some of those environments. It doesn't fit at all in the late 1700s, France might want to look at some period costumes.

Basically going by that artwork if we're to assume our assassin is going to blind into the streets of say 1775 Boston by putting a bright white hood up over his head and walking slowly, that is going to be comedy gold. For this reason I'd almost suspect this cover has to be a frank... I mean seriously think about it, yet it hides the face, but this does not scream "stealth" or "assassin" which is kind of the point of the series.
first off this link has a WAAAAAY better view of his design: http://www.gameinformer.com/p/ac3.aspx

other than the assassin hood he looks exactly like a continental soldiers for the most part (maybe channeling a little Mel Gibson ala the Patriot but fine whatever) although based on the setting i think the design still works.

This is mainly because while there will probably be a city take a look at the box art and what the countdown shows behind the timer http://assassinscreed.ubi.com/ac/en-US/index.aspx

this is the first AC game that is heavily implied to have a winter setting (The opening of Revelations doesn't count it was just a tutorial after all). This means his outfit even with the white hood would help him blend with the snow...shit this will probably make this new guy MORE stealthy than Atair or Ezio to be honest.

Another note is that this also seems like the first AC where there is a major war that the assassin takes an active role and side in unlike AC1. The winter was a PAIN for both sides in the Revolution so fatigue, hunger, cold, etc...that's where the assassin comes in to infoltrate the enemy camp and start offing British officers. I think it works for this.