Attention Oblivion experts...

[nothinghere]

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Not when all the armour is made useless because the enemey's just tear it apart

Not when you get items with reflect damage and a full set of Daedric Armour they don't! (I hope)

kinda a pain to repair though [edit]

 

[AMMO Kid]

People keep saying to avoid leveling, but then only crappy items are available, so just keep playing and have fun. Trying to avoid leveling is dumb and takes away from the true game experience.

 

[Jolly Madness]

Here's the point, monsters only scale up when you level your main skills. That's why you always pick rubbish skills you never use for main skills. You'll be extremely overpowered, and no... they don't keep scaling, I had a level 45, the monsters did definetly not get stronger after level 30.

 

[Booze Zombie]

I really think having area based levels works a lot better than everyone going with you.
Challenge isn't a bad thing.

If you want "real" leveling, try getting the PC version.
Sorry I can't offer anything more.

 

[Iron Mal]

People keep saying to avoid leveling, but then only crappy items are available, so just keep playing and have fun. Trying to avoid leveling is dumb and takes away from the true game experience.

While that is technically true I don't think you're fully understanding the issue with levelling in this game.

Because enemies level up alongside you it means that all the bonuses or advantages that you gain from leveling up are immediately lost by the fact that enemies are now stronger (you do more damage? Enemies now have more health and armour), this effectively makes every level an empty level, the only 'real' bonus you're recieving is a decorative one (your armour looks nicer but in terms of actual effectiveness is about as useful as your starting gear).

 

[MiracleOfSound]

While that is technically true I don't think you're fully understanding the issue with levelling in this game.

Because enemies level up alongside you it means that all the bonuses or advantages that you gain from leveling up are immediately lost by the fact that enemies are now stronger (you do more damage? Enemies now have more health and armour), this effectively makes every level an empty level, the only 'real' bonus you're recieving is a decorative one (your armour looks nicer but in terms of actual effectiveness is about as useful as your starting gear).

Yep.

And what I find more worrying is that the enemies are going to keep scaling up after I've hit a limit to the level of good gear I can get.

 

[DarthLurtz]

Not sure about 360, but there is a difficulty slider on the PC version that makes leveling not as bad.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Not sure about 360, but there is a difficulty slider on the PC version that makes leveling not as bad.

It's there on the 360 but I want to try to avoid using that unless it's necessary in order to keep enjoying the game.

 

[loooooowwww]

firstly make sure your holding block as you cast spells as it nables you to cast them twice as fast.

yes enemies scale with you all the way to max lvl.

you should be finding glass armor and all the other best stuff by about lvl 22 - 25.

heres a tip before you open a chest equip all your luck rings and take a luck potion if required to bring your luck stat as high as possible because luck is what determines whats in the chests.

 

[Treeinthewoods]

If the enemies did not level with you (say certain ones were always going to be tougher) you wouldn't have the freedom to do whatever quest you wanted to whenever you wanted to. In Final Fantasy you are steered towards certain tasks at certain times and you must be strong enough to enter certain places or you will die. In Oblivion I can literally do whatever quest I want to whenever I feel like it based on what kind of character I am making.

Honestly, I never really notice it. Illusion magic invisibility for 30 seconds + a powerful weapon or spell = Invincibility. No matter what kind of characer I make I always have that as backup. Stab, poof, stab, poof until it's dead!

Spoiler: Spoiler?

Also, it's great to have the Grey Foxes mask as a back up no matter what character you are. Sneaky Battleaxe Orc in Daedric Armor is sneaky...

 

[SmilingKitsune]

Only certain enemies will scale with you indeffinately, the highest forms of each creature type. For example; Minotaur lords and Xivilai.

 

[SimuLord]

Oblivion's leveling system and balance is one terrible design decision after another. Good thing there's mods to fix it. KCAS, OOO, MMM, and the UOP are, besides being spiffy acronyms, absolutely mandatory to turn the game from a decent-but-ultimately-frustrating game into a masterpiece.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

heres a tip before you open a chest equip all your luck rings and take a luck potion if required to bring your luck stat as high as possible because luck is what determines whats in the chests.

Now that I did not know!

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Oblivion's leveling system and balance is one terrible design decision after another. Good thing there's mods to fix it. KCAS, OOO, MMM, and the UOP are, besides being spiffy acronyms, absolutely mandatory to turn the game from a decent-but-ultimately-frustrating game into a masterpiece.

Pity then that my PC can't run it

Someday... I hope by the time TES5 comes out I'll be able to afford a gaming PC

 

[nothinghere]

People keep saying to avoid leveling, but then only crappy items are available, so just keep playing and have fun. Trying to avoid leveling is dumb and takes away from the true game experience.

I dunno about avoiding leveling just don't go out grinding for it. It fit into the story of you being a prisoner thrown out into the world to save it from the unknown (at least in the start), fast paced and filled with action.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

They scale to your level infinitely. The highest gear/enemies will come anywhere between levels 21-25. Plain Deadric/Glass comes at 21, but magic versions of the gear come at 24.

 

[Forgetitnow344]

>become master at Mysticism and Conjuration
>learn Paralyze and Summon Xivilai
>Paralyze and stab everything with your buddy Xiggy
>Oblivion is so cool oh my god how did i even

 

[Kortney]

The scaling wiped away the immersion for me and took away a lot of my enjoyment from the game. It's a classic example of level scaling done bad.

 

[AMMO Kid]

People keep saying to avoid leveling, but then only crappy items are available, so just keep playing and have fun. Trying to avoid leveling is dumb and takes away from the true game experience.

While that is technically true I don't think you're fully understanding the issue with levelling in this game.

Because enemies level up alongside you it means that all the bonuses or advantages that you gain from leveling up are immediately lost by the fact that enemies are now stronger (you do more damage? Enemies now have more health and armour), this effectively makes every level an empty level, the only 'real' bonus you're recieving is a decorative one (your armour looks nicer but in terms of actual effectiveness is about as useful as your starting gear).

Yes, but your spells and experience with the game increase, giving you the real advantage. Especially the spells. Every time I'm about to die I just go invisible for 600 seconds and escape un-noticed

 

[AMMO Kid]

People keep saying to avoid leveling, but then only crappy items are available, so just keep playing and have fun. Trying to avoid leveling is dumb and takes away from the true game experience.

I dunno about avoiding leveling just don't go out grinding for it. It fit into the story of you being a prisoner thrown out into the world to save it from the unknown (at least in the start), fast paced and filled with action.

Grinding as in using the invincible daedric cultist to train your hand to hand, blade, and blunt is bad. Casting illusion/conjuration spells etc. to pass time on long journeys to undiscovered places is the okay type of "grinding."