we can't since we like you don't have the bloody gameZeel said:I asked for evidence not unrelated garbage. I already know Jessica said this, You guys are claiming theres offical confirmation that the prothean character is in the game, withut the DLC. Now i want to see that.animehermit said:From Jessica Merizan, Community Manager for Bioware for the Mass Effect series, quote is taken from the recent AMA she did on reddit. I know you're already gonna debunk this by saying she's lying, but it's still more proof than you have.Zeel said:Show me this "confirmation" from the developers.
"I think there's a lot of misinformation out there and I wish the guy who made the initial video about it would have had an open mind before jumping to conclusions based on a leak we weren't ready to address. Since I'm a BioWare employee, I know people won't automatically trust me, but I hope people will consider that it wasn't cut content from the larger game. I was in Edmonton when we were finishing the game in November/December and I was in Edmonton again last month when they were working on the Day 1 DLC. It definitely was only possible to do because the main game was in certification (which means we had to wait for people to test it and make sure everything was good etc before we could get the greenlight to sell it). I also played the game WITHOUT the DLC in my first playthrough and honestly, it's an awesome addition but I was more than happy with what I was given in the game. It's bigger and more expansive than ever. Of course, I understand the concern but I hope we can all have an intelligent conversation about it and cover what the facts are in this situation.
Hope that helps a little bit. This is an awkward format to answer this question, but I know I could explain it if you were sitting next to me on a couch with some coffee/tea "
You win all the things.The.Bard said:
What about actual confirmation?anthony87 said:The lines of the DLC couldn't be in the script because production on the DLC hadn't begun until after ME3 was completed.Macrobstar said:Has there been official confirmation of this? Cause all i've heard are scripts. Which to me is stupid, because of course the lines of a day one dlc will be in the scriptanthony87 said:THEZeel said:They intended the prothean to be apart of the ORIGINAL GAME and NOT A DLC. Seeing as its in the freaking leaks. Then some suit over at ea game was like "oh no lets make this a dlc because the fans will go ape shit for it"GiantRaven said:What relevance does that have? Unless you're suggesting that by merely planning DLC, it should be included in the game at release (or available for free or whatever). You can't be suggesting that though, because that's utterly ridiculous.itchcrotch said:and uuuh... did you PLAN for work on it to start only once the main game was finished bioware?
Thats what wrong with it.
They are right about one thing. They got our attention
I agree, it would have been better if they had included it with all new copies of ME3, but if the new squadmate turns out to be just as deep as the others (with his own dialogue and recruitment mission) then perhaps it should be free exclusively to the N7 Edition. Depending on how much effort they put into it and depending will likely reveal how worked up people should be getting. Nobody knows exactly how much they're missing out by not having the extra DLC, so we'll have to wait and see.zinho73 said:You can see it any way you want. It is your money. As a consumer, you can decide if the price asked is fair or not. As I said, it is subjective.
However, a good marketing strategy will almost always convince people that they are getting a bang for their buck.
If I was the one making the decisions at EA (wishful thinking but work with me here ) I would have included the Prothean as a free bonus for new copies of the game. Yes, it consumed resources to produce, but a promotion like that generates more good will than several adds on magazines (which will probably cost more).
The problem is that something like that would be good on the long run and that's clearly not what EA wants. They want to increase revenue now, getting as much money as possible on the launch. Well, that's also an strategy, but, as we can all see, it has its consequences.
Okay, this forum need shut be shut down immediately, cause it's clear that somebody has already posted with an infinite amount of win. Honestly at this point, I reckon Zeel is just butthurt cause he's not getting the N7 Edition. (Not a very nice thing to say, but that's what it looks like)The.Bard said:
DLC confirms that the character is only purchable? Where? When I saw it, it said squadmate. The character indeed is important, but it is in game. How stupid do you think Bioware is? If they lied, it would end up blowing in their faces. They would lose all credibility they had.Zeel said:Did you read between page 1 and page 10. I'm pretty sure I laid out my argument back then, but i'll be brief. If you wish to challenge anything thats up to youJamesStone said:Good, now we are getting somewhere. Now, just a question, a small technical issue, no big deal.Zeel said:All evidence points to the latter case. I'm not going to wait until its too late to change it. thank you very much.JamesStone said:You again. Quite nice to see you in Mass Effect 3 forums for a chan... oh, wait. Anyway, I was starting to get worried when you didn't awnser negatively to the last ME3 thread post. So here we go again.Zeel said:Why the are you replying to a post about people who defend it, if you aren't one. What kind of loopy ass shit is that. If you haven't given your opinion on the DLC business. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.Tzekelkan said:What the fucking-entitlement-FUCK?
I just don't have any words. I expected a much more rational response to this well written and rational news post. Really? "Sheeple"? REALLY?
God dammit.No independent thought? Jesus fucking shit Christ of helldamnfuck. I'd say that not even reading the post and just mindlessly going with the crowd means not having independent thought. You seem to believe it means doing research, listening to the opinions of others, and then forming your own opinion, whichever it may end up being.Zeel said:Fuck that. Anyone who agrees with this practice is a brainwashed sheep with no independent thought.
You'll probably react with a knee jerk and call me a brainwashed consumerist pig for daring to write this post, because you will have failed to notice that I haven't even yet given my opinion on this Day One DLC business for ME3.
So, if someone argues against badly presented standpoints, they must clearly be, stand for or believe in the opposite side of the argument? Really?
OT: I still rather not make a comment. First, we´ll see if this Prothean appears in-game, and if the only thing that this DLC does is to make him a companion. If so, just extra content Bioware decided to create and hadn't the time to put in the original game. Totally acceptable. If not, and this Prothean is, in fact, a completely new character, people have all the right to get mad. In that case it wouldn't be entitlement, but only in that case.
1. leak confirms prothean important.
2. Prothean important for story/lore/character development
3. DLC suggets prothean character only purchasable.
4. Sleazy tactic done by EA games before; sebastian, dead space 2.
5. "extra" content being highly important to story is a redflag for me
On the opposition they have:
1. Bioware says SOOOOO!!!!!!
2. IT WILL BE IN THE GAME WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE ABOUT THIS CLAIMT HOUGH!!!!!
Such perfect comedic timing. I applaud you good sir!The.Bard said:
There is so much win in this post.The.Bard said:
Oh crud. Life was so much easier when I could troll random forums without friends putting pressure on me. I will do my best to bring sunshine to all your days!Radoh said:Good God.The.Bard said:
I'm sending you a friend request, I would very much like you to accept it.
I need this brilliance readily available.
that is that, that is whats so goddman important that he tells youProthean: ...you found one of our beacons. You saw it happen... our destruction... our warnings... Why weren't they heeded? Why didn't you prepare for the Reapers, human?
Shepard: It's 'Commander'. And nobody could understand your warnings. The beacon nearly killed me!
Prothean: Then communication is still primitive in this cycle. You can't absorb knowledge as we did.
Liara: Shepard can.
Prothean: Then the extinction was delayed?
Shepard: We pieced together what we could - and used it to stop a Reaper invasion three years ago. Now we have your plans for the Crucible. We've started building it.
Liara: The weapon your people were working on. I'd hoped you could tell us how to finish it.
Prothean: So much has been lost. So much I don't know. I was a soldier, not a scientist. Skilled in one art: killing. When it was clear our war was lost, I was chosen to go forward to the next cycle.
Shepard: What was your mission?
Prothean: Among my people, there were...avatars of many traits: bravery, strength, cunning. A single exemplar for each.
Shepard: Which are you?
Prothean: The embodiment of vengeance. I am the anger of a dead people, demanding blood be spilled for the blood we lost. Only when the last Reaper has been destroyed will my purpose be fulfilled. I have no other reason to exist. Those who share my purpose become allies. Those who do not become casualties. Do you agree, Commander?
Shepard: I'd say you found an ally. The only goal we have on this ship is wiping the Reapers from existence.