BioWare Tackles Strategy with Command & Conquer Generals 2
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EA!!!! *Echoes as the camera pans skyward in to a view of the planet*
Seriously though, they're making a Generals 2? There's a reason I say Red Alert 2 was the best of the series, and that's because the games afterwards went downhill quickly. Generals was decent but it lost much of the feel of Command and Conquer - so much so that I played through the campaign, played a couple multiplayer games, and dropped it. And they're sticking it with BioWare? Come on EA, you created a game studio so they could revitalize the series, and now you're throwing it in with a group that has never done a RTS game, much less a Command and Conquer game? Might as well have re-made the Westwood name and pretended that it was going to be awesome again. You will fool maybe two of us.
Personally, I'm not touching the thing. Partially because Generals never held that much appeal to me, and partially because every game since then has sucked.
Seriously though, they're making a Generals 2? There's a reason I say Red Alert 2 was the best of the series, and that's because the games afterwards went downhill quickly. Generals was decent but it lost much of the feel of Command and Conquer - so much so that I played through the campaign, played a couple multiplayer games, and dropped it. And they're sticking it with BioWare? Come on EA, you created a game studio so they could revitalize the series, and now you're throwing it in with a group that has never done a RTS game, much less a Command and Conquer game? Might as well have re-made the Westwood name and pretended that it was going to be awesome again. You will fool maybe two of us.
Personally, I'm not touching the thing. Partially because Generals never held that much appeal to me, and partially because every game since then has sucked.
Meh. I'm not really surprised by this. I didn't care that much for generals. I felt the overall quality of Generals was pretty good, but the game got old pretty quick. I didn't even finish it because it couldn't really keep my attention. The story wasn't that good and it literally felt like I was playing a C&C clone, versus an actual C&C game.
I also feel that they are going to put the Bioware title on everything to use it's good name to sell products that aren't normally along the companies lines. And, this will be an Origin exclusive to help bolster their platform. I can't blame them for that of course, but that doesn't change that I would rather have the game show up on Steam (where I have 215 other PC titles already).
I also feel that they are going to put the Bioware title on everything to use it's good name to sell products that aren't normally along the companies lines. And, this will be an Origin exclusive to help bolster their platform. I can't blame them for that of course, but that doesn't change that I would rather have the game show up on Steam (where I have 215 other PC titles already).
Fast-paced?! Noooo I want my Generals to be slow and plodding! Like the original was, if I remember correctly. That was why I could actually play it. Dammit I hope they're not just sneakingly saying that they're going to make another Company of Heroes clone. That would make me very sad.
I was actually thinking about sweet-ass destruction, explosions and physics.Soviet Heavy said:
If they keep the old Generals feeling, this will be the first good move of EA in years.
I loved the original, I hope I will enjoy this one too.
I loved the original, I hope I will enjoy this one too.
The second part, yes, that's garbage, but that's an easy change they'll more than likely make.Jaeger_CDN said:
As for the first part...what? Steam is even worse about that. Even games not even developed by Valve are now requiring you to use Steam to even install it. Single player games even.
See: Skyrim and Saints Row the Third and Dead Island. I was super happy I couldn't play Dead Island for about a week because Steam support didn't respond to my claim that Steam was saying my CD key was already in use. Good 'ole DRM.
The US cash drops were the 'tier 2' incomes and in fact were problematic as the money only came in every 2 minutes per pad, and the supplies sometimes missed (meaning you had to mop them up to get the money).AndyRock said:
The most reliable tier 2 income supply was the GLA black market for both bringing in a decent amount of cash (same as 4 chinese hackers at default) and being hard to destroy compared to the US drop pad and especially the hacker. The 'drops' for upgrading tanks/quad cannons ect. only dropped if one of those units killed the enemy iirc.
The chinese hackers were by far the best for income if they survived (a fully promoted hacker generated half as much as a black market on his own), but being an infantry unit they are vulnerable. Constructing the building for the hackers to use wasn't much better either, as suddenly you've made a single target that houses as much income as 4 black markets! Infantry generals with stealth hackers ftw.
The tier one incomes were the workers (GLA), supply trucks (China) and the chinooks (US). The amount of money they brought in was proportional to their cost. The worker was the best one simply because he also served as the construction unit.
Yay for playing generals a lot when i was 14
its such a shame bioware used to be such a good developer, until they took an an arrow to the knee that is EA. (stupid joke ya i know)
OT: i loved generals. IMO its the best C&C. but bioware making a RTS?
That doesnt even make sense bioware is known for their RPGs, good writing, and good characters. (Da2 characters not included...except varric...and maybe isabella.)
OT: i loved generals. IMO its the best C&C. but bioware making a RTS?
That doesnt even make sense bioware is known for their RPGs, good writing, and good characters. (Da2 characters not included...except varric...and maybe isabella.)
Provided the world doesn't end soon...*laughs*... a lot of promising titles are coming.
This one, is not one of them. At least, not yet.
I hope it doesn't get fucked up as hard as the last C&CwhichIwillnotname.
In the meantime, I will be waiting for that Generals pony mod.
This one, is not one of them. At least, not yet.
I hope it doesn't get fucked up as hard as the last C&CwhichIwillnotname.
In the meantime, I will be waiting for that Generals pony mod.
I'm all good with a new decent RTS, especially one that looks as pretty as that. I'm not really sure what Frostbite will bring to the table (other that insane graphics card requirements, lol) - it could just be a flashy gimmick, but it could also make the best looking RTS ever I can remember the first time I played through Company of Heroes, revelling in the sheer carnage and terrain destruction that game had, with peaceful towns being reduced to smouldering ruins by the battle... Frostbite could really deliver in that regard, and Bioware could even look to make some pretty strong statements on the nature of war through the medium. Whether they will is another matter, of course
I can remember the first time I played through Company of Heroes, revelling in the sheer carnage and terrain destruction that game had, with peaceful towns being reduced to smouldering ruins by the battle... Frostbite could really deliver in that regard, and Bioware could even look to make some pretty strong statements on the nature of war through the medium. Whether they will is another matter, of course I Still remember the original Generals game. That was imbalanced beyond belief, USA could get insane amounts of cash and could watch every movement the enemy made.
All in all the game was racist as fuck too.
All in all the game was racist as fuck too.
Errrr.. Steam's prices for Aussie users are in USD.... it's just that the numbers after the '$' are ones Australians are familiar with (eg, USD $89.99 for LA Noir)... which is sorta okay when the currencies are near parity in their worth but a right facefucking at other times... and even at parity it's usually no cheaper than physical retail so, except for Sales, Steam generally isn't a money saver for us.Frostbite3789 said:
May be good. Will not buy. Why? Well, here are my predictions. It will not be on Steam, it will require Origin, (which I hate) AND it won't run on any computer I own.