Call of Duty to get WoW-Like Subscriptions?

Xanadu84

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Come on, lets get real here. Loss of dedicated servers and mods sucked, and it was nothing short of a failure on there part. But the game is still playable, and it rendered the PC version equal to the console version. It wasn't a good choice, but it was forgivable. They jacked up the price, which probably also gave them a PR hit, and I'm sure that as they sort through the numbers, they will realize that they made about the same amount of money, but lost a good deal of goodwill amongst fans. Especially when they try a franchise without as much brand recognition and momentum as Call of Duty, and they take a huge hit in the pocketbook, as no one trusts them. But if they charged a monthly fee, when the competition doesn't, and new content is pretty much the norm anyways for these style of games...okay, they will still make money no doubt. A new Call of Duty can't really fail. But they will go to there accountants on release day, and ask, "Wheres the rest of the 0's?". They probably will realize that this is a horrible idea long before then. Or maybe they won't, and I won't buy it until they smarten the hell up. If they did this, they WILL notice how much money there losing, because instead of an empty boycott of false promises, a large percentage of people will just quietly shrug and go, "That isn't worth my time", and go play one of the many other games that are also excellent, and don't try to drain you dry at every turn.
 

A Pious Cultist

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Emphraim said:
No, COD5 is the game before MW2. MW2 is COD6. Since COD5 is server based(as in you can actually set up your own server) they have no control over it. I and most people I know will stick with COD5 or COD4 until they bring back dedicated server support. If they don't then we still have ARMA 2 and TF2.
Not true. They have control over IW.Net and can charge to use it and they can probably patch the older games to charge for access to the master-server. Either way is a HUGE dickmove though.
 

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Slycne said:
fix-the-spade said:
As much as I dislike piracy it would be incredibly awesome for Activision's sales to flatline under the poison of a million torrents...
Or even better if millions of dollars were spent on competitors games. Piracy just tells them it's still popular and they just need to figure out how to further discourage it usually at the expense of legal consumers. You're not sending the message you think you are.
Depends on what you think I think I was thinking I thought...

Actually, you're right, that was kind of a flippant thing to say. But Activision really does need to have one or more of it's main franchises suffer a massive commercial failure. Otherwise they're going to keep pushing for more and more money for fewer and fewer 'services', which is only going to end up hurting us the players. I don't want to be in a situation where to play a game to completion I need to drop more than a hundred pounds.

I see what you mean about piracy though, that was the wrong thing to wish for.
 

Striker Vulsine

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Lets look at this from a sane standpoint. The ONLY reason Blizzard made/is making tons of money from WOW is because you can sink hundreds of hours into the game easily, AND it is unique. Players create characters, they level up, they play with their friends a LOT, players are not going to pay a monthly subscription fee ontop of Xbox live, or even on PC or PS3, to play a game that, in all honesty, is alot like any other FPS out there.

I hope they do do this, get the response they are going to get (almost noone buys the online subscription) and see that subscription fees only work for unique and massive services like Xbox live or WOW.
 

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lol one debacle after another. Would not be surprise to see this make the big gaming news again. They really like to shoot themselves in the foot.

Never seen a company so brazen about their own Greed. This really is a hallmark moment, when a company has become so arrogant that they can make these kinds of statements. lol

Will EA please step in now with a similarly absurd proposition? so we can see which companies e-penis is bigger?

p.s. Call of Duty ONLINE! yeah lets remake Planetside or WWII Online since they are such pillars of success in the FPSMMO market (insert sarcasm)
 

DrScoobs

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behold, this is what happens when you give activision money. they make you give it more
 

WickedSkin

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SEEE!? This is what happens when you toss your money at anyone who is asking for it. They just want more. Console players are already being charged to much money for crap. They are trying to make PC gamers do it to. NOW THIS!? The biggest problem is that there are idiots that accepts this kind of behaviour and gladly forks out the cash without realizing they are being treated like... well idiots.
 

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Striker Vulsine said:
Lets look at this from a sane standpoint. The ONLY reason Blizzard made/is making tons of money from WOW is because you can sink hundreds of hours into the game easily, AND it is unique. Players create characters, they level up, they play with their friends a LOT, players are not going to pay a monthly subscription fee ontop of Xbox live, or even on PC or PS3, to play a game that, in all honesty, is alot like any other FPS out there.

I hope they do do this, get the response they are going to get (almost noone buys the online subscription) and see that subscription fees only work for unique and massive services like Xbox live or WOW.
Well to be fair WOW is not that unique. There have been many games like it before. Though never as simple. There are also later competitors around. But your point remains valid.

I wouldn't even pay for XBOX Live since there are plenty of free stuff like that for PC. I used to pay for live but never used it and cancelling it was a hassle (upgrading was easy though, convenient enough). Cancelled now though. My point is, you shouldn't pay to play something then get charged again to play it fully.

And with the way they treat console players I'm surprised they don't sound off more then they do. To me it looks like they are treating console players like... well idiots. Console gamers most often get a lot less content then PC players and no chance of giving their games 2nd winds over and over again. Still they charge plenty more to play games on console.

MysticnFm said:
This is bullshit.

Activision boycott, here we come.
Glad to have you on board
 

Fearzone

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I guess pissing of PC gamers isn't good enough.

For all the times I heard: "get over it" around the dedicated server issue I have one response to this:

Get over it.
 

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If i am paying for a price hiked game and paying for my internet usage on xbox live i resent having to pay extra

Activision i will never buy another game from you ever go jump of a building
 

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Turtleboy1017 said:
And so it has finally happened...

Another money making scheme from them. As if the 50 million they pull in monthly from WoW isn't enough already.

To me this is nothing but the beginning of the end. It was bound to happen eventually. (End of me buying anything other than D3 from Activision/Blizzard.)
Actually, that's 150 million, only if you are talking about 10 million active accounts at $15USD a month. now there are 12 million, so add another 30 million dollars a month to that. almost 200 million a month. all I can say is... WoW.
 

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HUBILUB said:
GamesB2 said:
This is a very bad idea, if call of duty gets wow-like subscription then they will lose many many customers.
Are you sure? Everyone said that they would lose customers because they fucked PC over, yet they broke records.

I think people will still couch up money for them and it will become so popular that more games does it.
Well they actually seem to have lost a lot of PC gamers as of now. Think they hang around 32000 or something online players (it was the last thing I heard at least). But still that means plenty of idiots bought that game. Look were that got us...

On a funny side-note:
Did you guys know that the Nuke, AC130, 3rd person, some map(s) and so on was STOLEN WITHOUT CREDIT from the PC mod community? I mean they could at least have credited them...

Fearzone said:
I guess pissing of PC gamers isn't good enough.

For all the times I heard: "get over it" around the dedicated server issue I have one response to this:

Get over it.
Don't stoop to their level brother. This is the chance we have to open their little gaming-puppy eyes!
 
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HUBILUB said:
GamesB2 said:
This is a very bad idea, if call of duty gets wow-like subscription then they will lose many many customers.
Are you sure? Everyone said that they would lose customers because they fucked PC over, yet they broke records.

I think people will still couch up money for them and it will become so popular that more games does it.
It sold so much because it was released on ps3 xbox and pc, the pc was fucked over and they lost alot of pc customers, xbox and ps3 were getting what they would have got anyway. this will lose even more people as this will presumably affect all three platforms. and i know im not paying any subscription fees and most of my friends wont. people will still pay, just alot less people
 

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IM sorry, 9v9 multiplayer for a price?
I mean 128v128 for a fee in understandable (MAG)
but no excuse other than money for this, get fucked!
 

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The theory is the subscription fees are there to pay for severs capable of supporting connections of thousands of players at a time. We are talking dozens of high end corporate servers here, all being run and operated 24/7 by a technical staff to support a game which has thousands, if not tens to hundreds of thousands, of people connecting to them all the bloody time. Not to mention massive sizes, and hence cost, of maintaining such a huge player database that tracks so many different elements in real time and the redundancies to make sure that, should errors occur, they are not sued into oblivion for losing someone character and the thousands of hours of work the average WOW player will put into the damn things.

That is not cheap, so even though Blizard is making a profit on it they have a solid reason for a subscription system.

Monthly fees just to play a FPS that WE have to pay to have a dedicated server... nay, we can't even have dedicated servers any more so we have to host at home. Goddess, I thought maybe they where listening to someone who has never played MP games before and where shooting themselves in the foot out of accidental ignorance. Now I really think they want to hang themselves, at least kill any MP playability in their games at all. The only thing that gives a game any real replay-ability.

Are they insane?!

Hell even Valve, whom has databases and hence reason to maybe consider a monthly fee, isn't even touching the idea at this point in time. They know just how deadly it would be outside of MMOs.