Cliff Bleszinski Labels Notch a "Pouty Kid" - Updated

[Lunar Templar]

aww :3

Isn't that cute? Ciffy B thinks people care what he, the 'drunken frat boy' of the games industry, thinks.

Oh well, him being stupid and hypocritical is nothing new or even note worthy, >.> Though it might make a pretty harsh drinking game.

 

[Adzma]

I used to have a lot of respect for Cliffy B back when he first left Epic. Over time that respect has waned, and now he has finally proven that he's nothing but a fuck-nugget.

 

[Do4600]

Wow, Cliff Blezinski is a fool. He's wants the Rift to be developed as a stand-alone device instead of a peripheral, that is an even worse decision than selling it to Facebook, you might as well stack it on the shelf next to the VR boy if that happens. I've never though much of Cliff Blezinski, he hasn't really been worth anything to me since 1999, but now I know he's a gigantic fool.

 

[Agayek]

It does not necessarily have anything to do with the potential business success that may follow with FBs investment. Even if I knew for certain I could make thousands investing in rare earth metal mining in Africa, I still wouldn't because of what it is doing to that country.

Africa isn't a country. Just saying.

/pedantry

I knew this would happen. The inevitable flaming of Cliff... Even though he's usually right. Why are people putting Notch on a pedestal? Just because he made a great game, that makes him right about everything?

The truth is, Cliff is pretty much the House of video games. He comes off like a douche but it he's got a good reason for everything he says. However, I will admit though that when he was in the gaming industry a while back, he had some learning to do.

Eh. Blezinski isn't any more right than anyone else, really, he is simply one of the more vocal ones about his opinions. In this particular case, I'd be pretty hesitant to call him wrong though. He's definitely right insofar as Facebook does open doors to the Rift that would otherwise be firmly closed. I'm not sure that's a good thing, but it's certainly true.

 

[Baresark]

I think that Notch was a bit immature about it. I also think that CliffyB was saying that simply because someone didn't like something he did. Both people are somewhat problematic in their views. Notch obviously freaked out over nothing. CliffyB attacked him for it like the idiot he is. There, both sides are stupid, issue resolved.

 

[omega 616]

Who the fuck is Cliff B anyway? All I know him for is making an average TPS and inventing the active reload ...

Just in the interest of fairness, Notch is bit of a tool. Always seems to be brown nosing the gamers, nearly always being the "most paid" on humble bundles (that I've seen), made a wild suggestion to blizzard (I think) to settle a score in a game ... just seems like he is always trying to be the anti-EA.

Do agree with him though, he kicks in 10K and facebook goes ahead and buys it out for $400 million and stock.

 

[RaikuFA]

I find it funny that Cliff is the one saying that given how often he used to whine about "the internet pirating my games" all the time...only for the 360 versions to be pirated like crazy.

Don't forget the tantrum he threw when GoW3 got an 8 from a reviewer.

A tantrum you say? I can't seem to recall that one. Can you link me to it please? :3

Here ya go:http://www.destructoid.com/cliffy-b-upset-by-hateful-8-10-gears-of-war-3-reviews-211562.phtml

Was upset a european reviewer gave his game an eight.

 

[Darmy647]

I dont understand the sudden calvalry of defense notch consistently gets. Minecraft was a one hit wonder. WHat has he done to follow that up rather than attempting to port it out the butt to every platform besides nintendo products? I mean seriously. If this was somebody like the guy behind sid miers i could see the massive wall of defense, but this is JUST notch. Ugh.

 

[EvilRoy]

It does not necessarily have anything to do with the potential business success that may follow with FBs investment. Even if I knew for certain I could make thousands investing in rare earth metal mining in Africa, I still wouldn't because of what it is doing to that country.

Africa isn't a country. Just saying.

/pedantry

Yeah, it was supposed to read "to their country" as in countryside, but I fumbled the words and didn't notice my error.

 

[Snotnarok]

Cliff's thoughts always come off to me as brain damaged, he was the one who was crying about used game sales equating you to a pirate as I recall. What does it make a company when they're crying you sold a product you bought and own to someone else? A big company of babies.

Everyone was pitching in to get an idea made into a reality, then a company comes in and funds it all on their own, of course the little guys are gonna be mad because they don't have tons of money to throw away, they thought they were helping but in the end what help was really needed when a multibillion dollar company just comes along and funds it more than anyone could have dreamed.
Facebook on top of this has done shady things and the creator has said some worrysome things, so not wanting to be involved with it is understandable.

 

[Infernal Lawyer]

So the fact is, people who backed the Rift have no right to complain because at the end of the day they were just donators, even though this really needs to change. It's one thing to get a project that wouldn't have seen the light of day on it's feet, it's another to pave the path for a project to get bought out for billions of dollars.

 

[Kuala BangoDango]

"N-S-A IS BUYING OCULUS VR FOR $2 BILLION."

O.K. For all you who see nothing wrong with the Facebook buyout or who are criticizing Notch for pulling his support please read the above headline which replaced "Facebook" with "N-S-A" and tell us you'd still feel the same way.

The reason I bring this up is because all your arguments I've seen still would be true if it were the N-S-A who bought them out...

Massive organization? ...check

Very Deep pockets? ...check

Can fast-track the OR project to completion with a wider user-base? ...check

Tons of contacts, strings they can pull, influence they can exert in the industry? ...check

Gathers massive amounts of personal and social data on citizens which they can use for their benefit, benefit of the OR, or to trade to other partners? ...check

Shady, secretive dealings in back-rooms with little to no transparency to the public? Questionable and controversial ethics and business/financial dealings? ...check and check

...and so on and so on.

So? Would you still feel the same way? Does looking at the above scenario from a different viewpoint give you better insight into why many feel the way they do and why many stopped supporting the OR?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Cliffy B. should look in a mirror sometime.

 

[Kameburger]

Cliff for what ever reason thinks he's the Kevin Rose of the gaming industry. He's not. He's not likable like kevin rose is. He's rarely right with his awkward bitter opinions, and I just wish he'd stop talking. He made an inconsequential but popular game once and now he thinks he's god of the gaming industry, but every time he opens his mouth it's just lashing out at angry consumers. If Notch is a pouty kid then Cliff is a dumb arrogant bitter nosey baby.

Edit- damn it I just figures out what Cliff could do with the money! He could go fu... Ah never mind you get the point.

 

[MrMixelPixel]

Remember kids. The rules say to judge a statement by its content...except for Cliff Bleszinski.

I don't feel any shame in agreeing with him here. I doubt Facebook really cares about Minecraft, so the only people losing here are people who wanted official support like he had promised.

Pretty much this.

Notch is only hurting the people who wanted to play his game on the rift. Cliff may have sounded like an asshole, but he's right.

 

[synobal]

Cliffy B saying something outrageous to keep his name in gaming news, this isn't new. It's his typical pattern and how he works. He says something outrageous at least once a month just to keep his name in the news. I'm pretty sure he just loves to ego surf about himself.

 

[smithy_2045]

Regardless of whether Bleszinski is a hypocrite or an asshole (or both), he's spot on with every point he made.

 

[Stabby Joe]

The only investments Notch has been making that I've been taking notice of have been in Age of Wonders III. I'm more interested in actual games at this stage over vague plans and promises with VR.

Don't get me wrong, it has potential and not going to jump ship at this recent Facebook update but I'm still not entirely sold. Minecraft could work but is a game I've already played plenty going to sell me of something as new as the Rift?

 

[Rad Party God]

A tantrum you say? I can't seem to recall that one. Can you link me to it please? :3

There you go. [http://www.destructoid.com/cliffy-b-upset-by-hateful-8-10-gears-of-war-3-reviews-211562.phtml]

OT: Well, ain't that a surprise, CliffyB being contrary for the sake of being contrary, keep on whining, you little shit. I don't see Notch's move as petty or childish, on the contrary, it's called "smart business", he has absolutely every right to not trust Facebook.

 

[Deathfish15]

Is this not the same Cliff Bleszinski that threw a fit and took his ball home away from PC gaming when he continually complained about a handful that pirated games (while punishing the ones that would have bought it)? I swear it's him, the whinny child that still has yet to make Fort Night game, which was revealed in ...2012ish?