Could Batman defeat the entire Avengers?

[BabySinclair]

No prep-time has been pretty well covered, he can take the folks at or just above peak human, including Cap and Winter Soldier. Panther's suit might be a bit too much for Batman's regular arsenal to handle.

With one-sided Prep-time and the first move, a lot of it would be the same kind of BS from Tower of Babel, exploit weaknesses and or try to disable/contain the ones he can't beat.
Hulk: get him in a room and flood it with enough "happy" neurotransmitters to bring him out of hulk (or keep him from changing) and lock him in there.
Iron Man/Warmachine: try to find an exploit in the armor? Warmachine's the easier of the two but Stark's newest suit might be impossible to deal with
Spiderman: Ethyl Chloride, his own version of kryptonite that can shut him down hard
Vision: Electricity might slow him down (at least in Civil War) though it becomes a matter of using enough to trap him without letting him blast his way out
Thor: Making him unworthy wouldn't be enough since he'll still be to strong and fast to contend with, probably go the Wonder Woman route from Tower of Babel and use hallucination inducing nanites to keep him fighting illusionary opponents forever because he has no real way to actually beat him
Black Panther: Electricity?
Ant Man / Wasp: Assuming he can't create a counter to Pym Particles, best he can do is try to lead them into a trap/containment field.
Scarlet Witch: He has one shot to take her down while unaware before she mops the floor with him
Quicksilver: His plan for the Flash actually worked so this one would could be prepped for
Doctor Strange: Good luck, unless he can find some form of magic immunity, the best he can hope for is a one hit KO with complete surprise.

With prep, he might be able to take half the ones he normally couldn't, but that's with stacking him with the first move advantage and one-sided prep.

 

[xaszatm]

I had to quote this because it was such a good laugh, and I tried to stop it honestly.

Though actually, how did each one do in terms of making money? World Wide, not just the Box Office, since that's supposedly more limited? Pacific Rim apparently sucked said generic american stuffy old reviewer, but the rest of the world supposedly creamed its pants on it.

Edit: If my research is correct, Batman v Superman came out in March and made almost 900 Million. Meanwhile, Avengers 2.5 came out 2 weeks ago and is almost close to beating that.

Jesus, Batman had 2 Months to prepare ahead of time and is not doing too well even -with- Superman's help.

Yeah my understanding of BvS box office was that it opened very strongly and attendance plummeted pretty bloody fast after word started getting out while Civil War started very well (zooming past Winter Soldier but then since it's the unoffical Avengers 3 that's kind of expected) and has been staying strong.

You want an even more shocking fact? Deadpool beat Batman v Superman in the Domestic Box Office. That's right, an R-rated comedy staring a no-name, juvenile mercenary did better than a movie staring both Batman and Superman in the United States. Good job Zach Snyder.

 

[Orga777]

First off, which Avengers and which Batman? If it is ANY live action movie Batman against the movie Avengers... lol. No. Movie Batman's are not good enough. Not one of them act deductive or smart enough to be able to beat the Avengers. Heck, in BvS, the only reason he was able to "beat" Supreman was because Supes went in completely distracted and wanting help to save his mother. Also, no movie Batman has any way to beat Thor or Hulk. Or Vision. Or Scarlet Witch. None of which have a kryptonite weakness to exploit. Yeah, movie Batman can't really do crap on his own.

Now, if we take them at their best... STILL no. I am sick and tired of this "Batman can beat anyone" Gary Stu crapola. If Superman wasn't Superman, do you really think Batman could beat him? If Superman really wanted to, he can just nuke the whole Batcave from orbit. If he really wanted to, he can fly into Batman going the speed of light and turn him into a bloody skidmark. It is no different against the Avengers. While there are not a whole lot of characters on Superman's level, Batman is still totally outgunned. For all of Batman's supposed greatness, all he is in the end is a less effective, less powerful, and less intelligent Doctor Doom, who himself can only beat a whole Avengers team with god powers or large elaborate plots that use multiple people and events to get what he wants.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Realistically, no. But fanboys and DC writers would have you think otherwise. Now The Flash? He could defeat the Avengers easily.

Yeah. It seems like any time they want a credible threat to the flash on the show it has to be "this guy goes even faster" because if you can't hit someone you can't beat them. I haven't read the comics though, so I don't know how they handle giving him worthwhile villains there.

 

[Politrukk]

People seem to be forgetting that Bruce Wayne is still a human and the Avengers (especially the movie versions of them) have no qualms with kicking ass first and asking questions later.

Thus Bruce Banner and Thor would break every bone in his body expecting him to be something like Captain America an empowered human.

 

[Flathole]

Well, The Hulk is indestructible, Thor is a literal god, and Tony Stark somehow has more money and more potent technology then Batman, buuuuuuut...

avengers end up bruised and beaten, tied to lampposts with super-duper indestructible rope next to a police station, with cardboard signs hung over their necks saying "Send to: Gotham prison."

 

[springheeljack]

I think a lot of people are just assuming that Batman would try to take on all of the Avengers by himself. He does have his own group of Super friends to call upon after all and they at least seem to work better as a team then the Avengers. Batman would be smart enough to know that he cannot beat them all on his lonesome. Especially since Thor and Hulk are damn near invincible.

 

[Politrukk]

Apparently I didn't get the memo but Batman is god now?

 

[MiskWisk]

Apparently I didn't get the memo but Batman is god now?

According to his most die hard fans, yes. Yes he is.

 

[irish286]

One on one with knowledge about the avengers, yes. Every power the avengers have he's faced something similar before and won. Hawkeye, Blackwidow, Capt. America, and Falcon would be a joke as he fights people like them on a regular basis. With the Hulk, he's beat him before. I don't see why he couldn't do it again. For Thor it's just a matter of dodging him and playing mind games until he convinces Thor he's unworthy of the hammer just like Loki has done. Iron man's the one that will put up the real fight. Batman has so many ways of immobilizing Ironman it's ridiculous. Ironman also has a ridiculous amount of way to get out of being immobilized. But Batman is much faster that Ironman. If Batman can slow Ironman down enough that he can slap one of his breaching charges on his armor it's game over. (If batman's breaching charges can make it through 3 ft of reinforce concrete it can make it through his armor.)

 

[Qizx]

For Thor it's just a matter of dodging him and playing mind games until he convinces Thor he's unworthy of the hammer just like Loki has done.

Yeah, "Just dodge a God" who's God long life has been spent training. And clearly Batman is on par with Loki THE GOD OF TRICKERY in his ability to trick someone.

 

[FillerDmon]

I had to quote this because it was such a good laugh, and I tried to stop it honestly.

Though actually, how did each one do in terms of making money? World Wide, not just the Box Office, since that's supposedly more limited? Pacific Rim apparently sucked said generic american stuffy old reviewer, but the rest of the world supposedly creamed its pants on it.

Edit: If my research is correct, Batman v Superman came out in March and made almost 900 Million. Meanwhile, Avengers 2.5 came out 2 weeks ago and is almost close to beating that.

Jesus, Batman had 2 Months to prepare ahead of time and is not doing too well even -with- Superman's help.

Yeah my understanding of BvS box office was that it opened very strongly and attendance plummeted pretty bloody fast after word started getting out while Civil War started very well (zooming past Winter Soldier but then since it's the unoffical Avengers 3 that's kind of expected) and has been staying strong.

You want an even more shocking fact? Deadpool beat Batman v Superman in the Domestic Box Office. That's right, an R-rated comedy staring a no-name, juvenile mercenary did better than a movie staring both Batman and Superman in the United States. Good job Zach Snyder.

I'm both happy and sad about that. Sincerely, I -like- Superman. For many of the same reasons I like Captain America. The "Truth Justice and the American Way" super hero played straight? I enjoy that so much! Part of why seeing him in the cartoons (speaking about the Justice League and Superman: The Animated Series mostly) was always so enjoyable! And -SOMEONE- needs to give Marvel some competition (admittedly slightly biased since the only mcu movie that's been even average in my books was the Hulk).

So seeing DC just flat out fail to deliver, be it because of complaints over cinematography or because of dark tone being used where it doesn't need to be, or because they're -blatantly- trying to play catch-up rather than be patient and weave the same level of rich lore and narrative... I mean, I'm still enjoying the All-Day-Party-Helicarrier with Mahvel Baybe, but there's a part of me that is sad inside for DC.

I think a lot of people are just assuming that Batman would try to take on all of the Avengers by himself. He does have his own group of Super friends to call upon after all and they at least seem to work better as a team then the Avengers. Batman would be smart enough to know that he cannot beat them all on his lonesome. Especially since Thor and Hulk are damn near invincible.

Well, that's a different question entirely. The op, or at least my understanding of it, was Batman vs Mahvel, not DC vs Mahvel, which would be a much better and more interesting fight. Superman, Flash, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Green Lanturn (the John Stewart version, damnit!), Cyborg, Raven, Robin, Starfire, Zatanna, Shazam P), Green Arrow, there's a lot of guys who could be called in and put in movies to make things legitimately more interesting. Though I wouldn't want to use just comics to decide this, if only because on both sides the comic book writing has been kinda shitty.

The problem is that so many people have the "If Batman has enough time to gather resources and tactical info, he could beat the Terran Dominion, Protoss Kalhal, and the Zerg Brood all by himself with one hand tied behind his back" mindset. Just invent some random Bat-DeusExMachina to get out of dealing with a situation with decent writing, supposedly.

 

[FalloutJack]

Batman tends to find ways to deal with everybody, because he doesn't have a social life. Bruce Wayne may be there, but he hasn't been millionaire playboy by anything but name in a long time. Outward, he's chatting up other rich folk. Inwardly, he's thinking of ways to handle 'loose ends'. I can believe that - given enough time and effort - Batman can think up clever enough ways to pull a win against any person, regardless of their...everything. He's obsessive about it.

 

[Orga777]

One on one with knowledge about the avengers, yes. Every power the avengers have he's faced something similar before and won. Hawkeye, Blackwidow, Capt. America, and Falcon would be a joke as he fights people like them on a regular basis. With the Hulk, he's beat him before. I don't see why he couldn't do it again. For Thor it's just a matter of dodging him and playing mind games until he convinces Thor he's unworthy of the hammer just like Loki has done. Iron man's the one that will put up the real fight. Batman has so many ways of immobilizing Ironman it's ridiculous. Ironman also has a ridiculous amount of way to get out of being immobilized. But Batman is much faster that Ironman. If Batman can slow Ironman down enough that he can slap one of his breaching charges on his armor it's game over. (If batman's breaching charges can make it through 3 ft of reinforce concrete it can make it through his armor.)

Right. No. This is all wrong. As I said earlier, for all of Batman's supposed greatness, he is nothing more than a less effective, less powerful, and less intelligent Doctor Doom. Doctor Doom is better at EVERYTHING than Batman except hand to hand combat. He has magic and superior tech to even Iron-Man to even that little "weakness" out. Doctor Doom doesn't beat every Avenger and he has more knowledge on them than Batman could ever get in a short amount of time. So why should I expect Batman to beat them all on his own even with prep time when Doom can't without god powers or overly elaborate plots that use multiple people and events to get what he wants? Because DC has bad writers that like to fap off Batman as Jesus Christ Superstar?

Also, I like how Batman is faster than Iron-Man now... a guy that flies and has jet boosters... God, I can't stand some Batman fans these days. Also, by this point and time in the comics, a "breaching charge" will do absolutely nothing at all to Tony's armor. :/

 

[irish286]

One on one with knowledge about the avengers, yes. Every power the avengers have he's faced something similar before and won. Hawkeye, Blackwidow, Capt. America, and Falcon would be a joke as he fights people like them on a regular basis. With the Hulk, he's beat him before. I don't see why he couldn't do it again. For Thor it's just a matter of dodging him and playing mind games until he convinces Thor he's unworthy of the hammer just like Loki has done. Iron man's the one that will put up the real fight. Batman has so many ways of immobilizing Ironman it's ridiculous. Ironman also has a ridiculous amount of way to get out of being immobilized. But Batman is much faster that Ironman. If Batman can slow Ironman down enough that he can slap one of his breaching charges on his armor it's game over. (If batman's breaching charges can make it through 3 ft of reinforce concrete it can make it through his armor.)

Right. No. This is all wrong. As I said earlier, for all of Batman's supposed greatness, he is nothing more than a less effective, less powerful, and less intelligent Doctor Doom. Doctor Doom is better at EVERYTHING than Batman except hand to hand combat. He has magic and superior tech to even Iron-Man to even that little "weakness" out. Doctor Doom doesn't beat every Avenger and he has more knowledge on them than Batman could ever get in a short amount of time. So why should I expect Batman to beat them all on his own even with prep time when Doom can't without god powers or overly elaborate plots that use multiple people and events to get what he wants? Because DC has bad writers that like to fap off Batman as Jesus Christ Superstar?

Also, I like how Batman is faster than Iron-Man now... a guy that flies and has jet boosters... God, I can't stand some Batman fans these days. Also, by this point and time in the comics, a "breaching charge" will do absolutely nothing at all to Tony's armor. :/

Do you really want to go there? Fine, If we're going with "at this point" Batman wins hands down in an instant. Batman is currently sitting on the Mobius Chair. Also, you ***** about Batman being a marry sue and you pull up one of the marvel universe's? Doom gets defeated because of his ego. Something Batman doesn't have a problem with. Batman has a counter for every avenger because he has faced and defeated someone with the same powers as the avengers at some point. Even fighting the hulk himself and winning.

 

[Ryallen]

Given the nature of stories like these, and how much comic writers love to let the underdog win, Batman would win hands down. Not because he's the smartest or the strongest or has the most experience. He would win because he's doing it alone. Now, before you start to shit on me for saying this, I want you to think first. I want you to think veeeeeeeeeery hard about this. Would anyone write this kind of story if there was any realistic meta-chance that the singular entity would lose? Unless they are an almighty Galactus-level god, then no. Batman would win because that's the kind of story that would be told: one man with limitless intelligence, infinite money, and OP martial skills versus an entire team of characters all of whom have some kind of powerful ability.

The worst thing is that this isn't even Batman's fault. This is just a trope in storytelling in general. No one would make this kind of story if the smaller guy was going to lose. At least, not if the smaller guy is a superhero, even if the other side's guys are ALSO superheroes.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Normal humans dont seem completely helpless against the avengers considering past villains. So If Bats can manipulate and seperate the Avengers maybe... Though I think Batman would seek out Allys.

 

[Dave Stauber]

The fact that this question would even be asked shows just how far Batwank has gotten out of hand. Batman is, hands down, the worst character in comic books at this point. You have people claiming a dude in a fursuit who knows karate and throws boomerangs can beat the FUCKING HULK. It's gone too far.

 

[marioandsonic]

Doubt it. While it's subjective, Death Battle showed that, 1 on 1 with no prep time, Spiderman could take out Batman.

But of course, everyone will argue that Batman could win if he had a year's worth of prep time, so who knows.

 

[Captain Marvelous_v1legacy]

Apparently I didn't get the memo but Batman is god now?

According to his most die hard fans, yes. Yes he is.

No, no, no. Batman has literally become a god.

I don' know whether he's lost the power yet, but yeah. As far as I know, Batman is a god.

OT: Are we talking movie Batman vs movie Avengers? Because if so, no. Movie Batman just is not at all impressive enough. Hell, Nolan's Batman has never faced a meta-human threat. Forget about Thor, Vision, or Hulk. Bats probably couldn't take on Hawkeye.

If we're talking comics, he may have a chance. You see, Batman does, in fact, have a power. Writer/Plot Induced Stupidity. Even when he shouldn't win, he just does. He always conveniently has just what he needs to come out on top. If Batman takes on the Avengers he'll have a virus prepared for Vision and the Iron Men, a cure for Banner, Parker, and Rogers, and a device to take out Scarlet Witch. Against, Ant-Man/Giant Man, Black Widow, Hawkeye, (Bucky) and Black Panther, he'd just beat them all, 4(5) on 1. Why?