Could You Date A Transexual?

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Beautiful Tragedy said:
LMAo ya not many of us would pull that!
Speak for yourself!

Fiz_The_Toaster said:
Nope, not my thing. I've met one trans person (is that even right?) and I thought he (girl to guy if I remember right) was a pretty cool person. The thought of even considering dating him never crossed my mind, so I seriously doubt I would.
Do you normally consider dating all guys? Because I'm having trouble seeing a scenario otherwise where not considering dating one FtM would then mean that you were unlikely to date one.

Little Gray said:
There is no way in hell that I would date a transexual. I enjoy sex to much and I want to actually have kids with my partner one day.
Err...You do know you can have sex with a transsexual, right?

mike1921 said:
Who you are is phenotype, not genotype. Unless you jack off to karyotypes of the women you love and nitpick at them for recessive alleles they have but don't actually effect them your "THEY HAVE XY CHROMOSOMES" is rather irrelevant.
You rule. If LittleThestral turns down my proposal for marriage, you're on the short list.

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Troublesome Lagomorph said:
Not at all. My only goal in dating/marrying would be to make babies with that person, and I don't particularly want to adopt.
So you screen all your partners for childbearing capabilities, then, right?

Glasgow said:
I am surprised to see many people say they would do it.
Me too, but for the better.
 

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The better question would be could you date someone your not sexually attracted to because the answer to that question would be no.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
I realize that you are spoiling for a fight
Please stop making this accusation every time I disagree with you. It's both disingenuous and tiresome.

The point is that you're actually putting higher standards to transwomen than to those "normal" women out there. Nothing more. Don't turn this in to false persecution or whatever simply because you've been called on it.

Stop making up my stances and attacking the straw-versions, though. I am not your enemy. I am not out to burn you as a witch.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
mike1921 said:
Who you are is phenotype, not genotype. Unless you jack off to karyotypes of the women you love and nitpick at them for recessive alleles they have but don't actually effect them your "THEY HAVE XY CHROMOSOMES" is rather irrelevant.
You rule. If LittleThestral turns down my proposal for marriage, you're on the short list.
Thank you. Amazing what you can do with only a high school knowledge of genetics.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
Nope, not my thing. I've met one trans person (is that even right?) and I thought he (girl to guy if I remember right) was a pretty cool person. The thought of even considering dating him never crossed my mind, so I seriously doubt I would.
Do you normally consider dating all guys? Because I'm having trouble seeing a scenario otherwise where not considering dating one FtM would then mean that you were unlikely to date one.
I need to get to the dating part first, but that's neither here nor there right now.

It would be premature to say I would be unlikely because once my brain gets a hold of some knowledge about someone I can't un-know that. I would image that would be problematic for me if I were to consider dating someone that's a transgender FtM since in the back of my head I will be thinking, 'This person used to be physically a chick.' I really don't feel like going into the semantics about that, but that's just how I know I will react. Can't be helped.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I were to date someone then, yes, I do consider dating all guys. I really don't know how else to explain that other than it's just not my thing.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Troublesome Lagomorph said:
Not at all. My only goal in dating/marrying would be to make babies with that person, and I don't particularly want to adopt.
So you screen all your partners for childbearing capabilities, then, right?
I would if I gave a shit about dating/romance/etc, yes. As I said, I'm more interested in having kids than the relationship with whatever person.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Little Gray said:
There is no way in hell that I would date a transexual. I enjoy sex to much and I want to actually have kids with my partner one day.
Err...You do know you can have sex with a transsexual, right?
Sure you can but it feels extremely weird and different and its really not the same.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Please stop making this accusation every time I disagree with you. It's both disingenuous and tiresome.

The point is that you're actually putting higher standards to transwomen than to those "normal" women out there. Nothing more. Don't turn this in to false persecution or whatever simply because you've been called on it.

Stop making up my stances and attacking the straw-versions, though. I am not your enemy. I am not out to burn you as a witch.
I could just as easily ask you not to climb up on your cross if I point out you are being needlessly combative. Even this reply to me pointing out that you are being needlessly combative is needlessly combative. You and I don't even disagree that often and tend to be naturally aligned on a lot of conversational topics so I have absolutely no idea what the hell you're going on about. Perhaps you are thinking of RobustCarp or EngorgedTuna.

I'm still totally stumped what you mean by my "higher standards". Me saying that adult males attempt to transition have a hard time passing =/= me saying that I personally demand that all trans women be svelte lingerie models. I'm pointing out a problem, not endorsing a problem. If you're a broad shouldered, ham handed transsexual woman in a society that still fears and loathes transsexuals with distressing regularity, you are probably gonna have a bad time. This is what I am saying.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Medically speaking, a MTF transsexual is not male.
Chromosomes, sorry.

Zachary Amaranth said:
how fortunate that one does not need a fetish to follow through.
Not really true. Pheromones make it such that you can generally tell at a base level what chromosomes someone has, and this will color their sexual attractiveness to you on a subconscious level accordingly. You may not agree with the use of the term "fetish" to describe someone who does not detect or interpret pheromones the way most people do, but it's sounds appropriate to me. Unless there are transgender surgeries that I'm not aware of that include pheromone-producing organs, it is absolutely the case that to find a transgendered person attractive for a heterosexual is an abnormality, or at least an oddity, or an unlikely occurrence.

Now, you might be able to will yourself to ignore your subconsciousness I guess, and assuming that the transgendered person is otherwise convincing in most or all other ways, you might end up subconsciously ignoring the pheromone cues anyways. But once you find out that they are in fact transgendered you'll probably find that your sex drive diminishes and that they feel more like a close friend or family member than a partner if there was anything between you before.
 

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DjinnFor said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
Medically speaking, a MTF transsexual is not male.
Chromosomes, sorry.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.400100-Could-You-Date-A-Transexual?page=8#16437200

If you think "chromosomes" is a valid response to that you have no right to mention medicine
Zachary Amaranth said:
how fortunate that one does not need a fetish to follow through.
Now, you might be able to will yourself to ignore your subconsciousness I guess, and assuming that the transgendered person is otherwise convincing in most or all other ways, you might end up subconsciously ignoring the pheromone cues anyways. But once you find out that they are in fact transgendered you'll probably find that your sex drive diminishes and that they feel more like a close friend or family membe than a partner if there was anything between you before.
Amateur doctor turning into an amateur psychologist? They grow up so fast. Or maybe you're still just an amateur doctor.
 

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I guess for me, it'd depend on the craftmanship of the surgeon who turned him into a her.

If I could snag a tranny that was as finely sculpted as Poison, then I probably wouldn't care. I'll go for it.

But, I don't think we've come that far yet.
Most trannies are so obviously trannies that it would just put me off.

 

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I highly recommend reading all of the stories. For stories about trans, read Charlie and Tom, m to f and f to m, respectively.
It depends on the person. If I liked him, then yes. If I found him physically and platonically attractive, then yes.
Also, "I like men. In a GAY way."
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
omicron1 said:
to wit, all opinions that are not categorically false are, from a human (IE not-omniscient) point of view, equal.
But there, you're already lending false validity to his opinion. There is no "medical" definition of a woman that suits his criteria. Therefore, his statement is false by your own criteria, yet you argue otherwise.
There is most certainly a medical definition of a woman that suits his criteria. Put simply, either "One with XX chromosomes" or "One with a uterus" will work. Obviously there are exceptions, but it stands to reason that he would be equally unhappy with any such exception.

Now what I can't help but notice is that you're a bit dismissive towards anyone who believes that trans*people are not members of their target gender. Which is fine as an opinion. But to dismiss others' viewpoints out of hand because you do not agree with them, especially if said dismissal comes with an assertion that their opinions are of less value than their own, does not work. You do not open the table to discussion, or even polite disagreement, by denigrating your opponent. You merely destroy any hope there may have been of amicable coexistence through such intolerance.

To shorten things: Disagree as vehemently as you will, but in conversation remember that you are on an even playing field, and no one has the right of it. Not him, and not you. Both viewpoints are equally valid until proven otherwise.
 

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I would say no, but I'm not guaranteed either way, considering I haven't...actually...met a person that I know is a transsexual in person, and I never know if I'll fall for somebody of that orientation. As it stands, I'm straight and attracted to females who identify as females. But, like I said, who knows what the future holds. Now, if I were to be attracted to a transsexual, they would have to be Post-op simply because I am not physically attracted to penises.
 

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That is a very good question.

I honestly don't think I could get over my own biases over sexuality.

I am not sure though, I am still a virgin and haven't actually dated anyone before. :(
 

anthony87

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Nah, as far as I'm concerned males are males and females are females. I'm old fashioned like that.