Not a snowflake's chance in hell. Any sort of extreme body modification causes my penis to wilt like a bouquet of flowers stuck in a pizza oven. Not that they're missing out on much. 
Could You Date A Transexual?
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Nope, I couldn't. Total respect for Transsexuals and all the challenges they face. If you can have a relationship with someone like that, that's damn respectable. Attacking a Trans person for the way they are is absolutely unacceptable. But...I just could not...just generally BE in that area knowing that there was a penis there once. It does not compute. I wish I was different in that regards. But I'm not, and I will not be. Ill be friends and spend time and do the whole friendship thing till the cows come home, but "Was once a male" renders someone "persona non nookie" in my head.
No its not, we are just saying that if a person is born male with xy chromosomes and they get surgery to look like a women, it doesn't change their chromosomes.Zachary Amaranth said:
Do you have any credible medical sources to back up your claim towards the notion that chromosomes don't play a role in determining if a person is male or female, because just saying "I know a "professional" who disagrees with you, take my word for it" is not a very convincing stance.Zachary Amaranth said:
Not at all, Chromosomes are part of the overall person and if a guy with xy chromosomes gets surgery to look like a women, that is completely relevant as to whether I want to date them.mike1921 said:
Yes I realize that it sounds kind of funny, I was trying to describe various ethnic group indigenous to Sub-Sahara Africa as best I could. Hope this clears things up.Cry Wolf said:
If you don't understand what Chromosomes have to do with the topic then there's really nothing that I can say other than to do some research on how Chromosomes impact the formation of sexual organs and other factors that influence your sexual orientation.mike1921 said:
I really don't know what to say to this other than to ask how secure you are with your sexuality. Because this hostile, pointless, meaningless response leads me to believe that you were very, very hurt by something I said.mike1921 said:
It doesn't take an amateur psychologist or doctor to understand that while chemical production can impact brain activity, it doesn't control brain activity... and in fact, the reverse is true. Any feeling can be ignored and repressed, and subconscious brain process's can be overridden by your conscious mind.
Want proof? Try it yourself: pretend you're having a vicious, angry argument with me and mentally envision the exact words you would say to me as well as what you think I might respond with. If you've got a good enough imagination you'll be surprised at how pissed off you can make yourself at something imaginary. And with enough skill or practice you can do so without having to imagine an event that might normally piss you off, and you can even manufacture other emotions and feelings.
I think what you're looking for is differing sexual preference. "Fetish" implies the sexualization of an object or practice that would not normally be considered sexual in nature. So you can have a shoe fetish, or a leather fetish, or spanking fetish, but you can't really have a "man fetish".DjinnFor said:
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How odd; I've always tended to see the identity and the penis/vagine as a smidge more important. Can't say the last time I even noticed somebody's chromosome count and checked to make sure it corresponds.
I'm sorry to be picky and blunt, but the trivialisation of transgenderism is something the tabloids delight in, and the first step they tend to use is reducing it to something purely sexual.
As for myself, I'm really not sure. I can imagine myself falling for someone FtM or MtF... but I'm not certain.
I have zero interest in having children, and I'm mostly a loner who doesn't really give much of a shit about what society thinks of how I choose to live my life... so assuming I were still single, yeah, I suppose I could. Personality, or the cliched "what's on the inside," is the single most important factor for me in finding someone for a relationship.
For me, personally, any attempt at a relationship must have reproductive viability. I don't have anything against DINC relationships or gay marriage, if they want it, they can have it, but that's the standard I set for myself.
I just can't see myself going through with it, but I really wouldn't date people who don't want children or aren't capable of it for medical reasons either.
I just can't see myself going through with it, but I really wouldn't date people who don't want children or aren't capable of it for medical reasons either.
Because there are people who feel the need to pressure others into not just tolerating them but accept and support them even if they don't want to. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you don't go out of your way to harm/harass a transgendered person, you are ok. Its like political parties, you shouldn't have to like and support every political party but you also shouldn't attack/harass them.Casual Shinji said:
Well I am in a relationship at the moment but if I wasn't I have no idea how I would react and feel. It's never come up. People are always "Open and willing" to do something right up till the point they have to prove how open they are. I prefer to have a "I don't know" category until such a time where it comes up and I react.
*shrug* Sure, if I weren't married, of course. I'm not even really sure why it's much of a question. Women are women and men are men. If she was born in a body that was incorrect and needs surgery to fix it, I see that as no different than when someone is born with a defective appendix and needs to have that removed. Same goes for men. If they were born missing bits, then why wouldn't they have a surgery to put the correct bits on? It's not like we ask this kind of silliness when someone is born with only a single lung and needs to have another one put in. The only issue is procreation but, you know what, give it time. Science is always advancing and that can't be any harder to do than putting a human on Mars.
I think so. It would be an obstacle and if you'd asked me a year ago I'd have said no. Now I think that if I genuinely liked someone a lot I'd be able to get over it. Being squeamish about these things is a bit childish really.
....Chromosomes are part of the overall person...ummm...Yes...I guess? They're more what determines them, and do you know what the determinationHelmholtz Watson said:
The only thing chromosomes matter for other than phenotype is reproduction. Unless you worry about everyone you date being carriers (Having the genes for but not showing) for things you find unattractive worrying about chromosomes instead of who they actually are is entirely inconsistant.
Do you care if a woman you like has trisomy X? Three X chromosomes. It won't effect her in any way besides that she has increased risk for a few things. Tell me another scenario where you care about the genes of a woman you're dating for a reason other than how it effects their body or how it effects their potential children.
I didn't say they're irrelevant to sexual organs and orientation, I simply said that if you think "chromosomes" in and of itself is a valid response than you have no business mentioning medicine.DjinnFor said:
To say chromosomes impact the formation of sexual organs is an understatement, they determine it, along with the formation of every other organ in your body. But why does that matter? The genes that code for your appendix don't matter if your appendix gets taken out so why do your genes coding for a cock and testosterone matter after you've replaced it with a vagina and estrogen? Your genes matter for determining traits, if those traits are gone than why the hell look backwards?
I am a straight cis male and fairly confident about all of that, and the only woman I have feelings for is cis. It was more the presumptuous attitude of acting like any feelings you have for a trans person will dissipate if you found out that annoyed me.
Um...I get that you might feel like a person abused your trust, but I think murder is an extreme response.krazykidd said:
Ok, I admit that I could have used a better term. I was just struggling to think of a word that describes the various indigenous ethnic groups in Sub-Sahara Africa.Flutterknight said:
