Demigod Piracy Running High

[Internet Kraken]

This is why I don't complain about DRM.

You want someone to blame? Blame the pirates.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

I WOULD buy this game if my PC could run it.

 

[Internet Kraken]

DISCLAIMER: I too am appalled at this. The majority of my post may make it seem otherwise.

I loved SupCom.
I love GPG.
I love Stardock.
I loved GalCiv and Entrepreneur.

I was honestly considering going to pirate this game.

Not to smite the company. Not to selfishly, effectively steal it, but to try it out.

I first tried Fallout 3 from a pirated copy and I ended up purchasing that.

I'd like to have a demo of Demigod available for download, since that's all I'd pirate it for anyway. To try it. And if I don't like it in a few hours or the first few levels, I uninstall it. And if I love it, I buy it. Not just for the online features, but for supporting the company.

Not many people feel this way, I'm sure, but personally, I think torrents are a wonderful tool that companies should be using more for their advantage. Leak demos of the game and such that people will hype themselves up about and share with their friends.

I keep hearing about it being just DotA with better graphics, which I am not paying 50 dollars for. I'd like to see it in action before automatically dismissing it. I looked up youtube videos and it seems like a slow-paced version of DotA. Would you pay much for a custom map from an RTS you got in 2005? Surely you can understand where I'm coming from.

I figure maybe the game is different, maybe some heroes are different, but they say there's only 8, and I hope that they just release more as DLC, but if they do that, hey, pirates shouldn't be able to easily download it, but I digress.

The point that I meant to get at is that I like to try things before I drop 50 dollars on a purchase. Let alone a purchase that (if it lives up to its hype of being a DotA clone) one that I already have.

I'm not going to say I sympathize with the pirates, but I'm saying maybe 5% of them have a reason for doing what they do, and I bet 90% of the people torrenting the game wouldn't have ever played it otherwise. Maybe the companies involved should just take it as a compliment of "Hm, people are interested..." but you know, they'd get the same effect if they had released a demo of their game as a torrent. I personally know that if the game wasn't readily available, I would wait until it was 20 bucks before I even consider picking up the box.

I don't think any game should be pirated so much (okay, maybe Big Rigs). I honestly wish it was more difficult to do. Maybe it would be used better. But I simply don't know a solution. Any DRM will eventually be cracked. No DRM will be rampant. Stardock is a great PC strategy game dev and publisher, and they deserve better.

But I would feel somewhat justified in pirating this game, playing 4 skirmish matches, and then uninstalling it. It's unfair to expect me to pay for what might certainly be a shitty product without even really knowing what it is.

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My brother does the exact same thing. He pirates some games to test them and then buys them if they are good.

However I would still prefer it if torrents didn't exist. They cause far more trouble for the games industry than good.

 

[iJosh]

Piracy wins again. Go pirates !
We has rum!

 

[Valiance]

My brother does the exact same thing. He pirates some games to test them and then buys them if they are good.

However I would still prefer it if torrents didn't exist. They cause far more trouble for the games industry than good.

I agree, but they are used for plenty of legitimate purposes - distributing CDs, distributing open office, or other large programs that are open source...But if games were somehow immune to it, that'd be nice.
People always find other ways to pirate games anyhow. (Don't copy! Don't copy that floppy!)

But torrents make it so easy and accessible to pirate, most people will.

 

[Internet Kraken]

My brother does the exact same thing. He pirates some games to test them and then buys them if they are good.

However I would still prefer it if torrents didn't exist. They cause far more trouble for the games industry than good.

(Don't copy! Don't copy that floppy!)

I haven't seen that video in a LONG time.

 

[freebiewitz]

why would anyone pirate Demigod? Its price for a new release is below average for goodness sake! I meen Ive heard people pirating games because they were to expensive but this is just stupid! Heck its like pirating free games! You just dont do it!

 

[Aries_Split]

Here's a word to any pirates posting here.

Shut the fuck up!

We don't want your petty justifications, we don't want your flimsy excuses, just stop talking. If you pirate, you're an asshole and nothing will change that.

 

[DirkBelig]

At long last, clear and unambiguous evidence for my long-standing belief that people don't pirate games "in protest of DRM". They do it because they can't be bothered to actually pay for something that people have put a lot of time and money into developing. Short version: pirates are dicks.

This obviously doesn't mean that DRM works. What it does mean is that virtually all claims of supporting piracy based on high-minded principle are complete garbage.

Agreed 100%.

Word.

On the CAG boards are a couple of dolts who post on EVERY game with DRM - no matter how lightweight, as the ones on The Witcher and others were - that they're not going to buy the titles. They are pompous arses who think they should get their purity rings polished by the Jonas Brothers for being so principled and they need to get the hell over themselves.

Also needing a good horse-whipping are the filthy pirates who think they're the morally superior life forms because they're doing what they're doing in the name of striking back at poor quality games, weak values, Evil Corporatism, etc. etc. etc. blah-blah-woof-woof. I'm sure that a hefty chunk of people here have nicked something or another for whatever reason suits them. Whether hot, eternal fires await their souls for their actions is unknown, they could at least refrain from crowing about their "1337n355", mmmkay? Just gank your bits and STFU about it!

 

[Arcticflame]

Here's a word to any pirates posting here.

Shut the fuck up!

We don't want your petty justifications, we don't want your flimsy excuses, just stop talking. If you pirate, you're an asshole and nothing will change that.

No. What you are doing is effectively sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling. Don't be a moron. There is no black and white in piracy. There are just mounds and mounds of greys.

And my personal opinion is that I doubt many of the people pirating it would be buying it. I don't see the big hoo-haa besides the company being dumb enough to not even have the slightest bit of DRM. (Read: Nobody has problems with CD Key Authentication, everyone has problems with install limits)

 

[RRilef]

I'm just waiting for later today for the verdict on Pirate Bay, hopefully that will be a step to get rid of all this pirating.

 

[yonsito]

I'm a little surprised that Stardock didn't check the validity of the serial numbers in the first place. Restricting online play to legitimate copies is much more effective than DRM in my opinion, esp. for multiplayer games.

 

[tthor]

i sometimes support piracy, but ONLY as a form of protest against that game (i believe this form of protest is a bit necisary because otherwise, the game company in question would have too much power, and aslong as the game itself is good, they can do watever they want short of throw poo at the gamers, and the gamers would only be able to either put up with it, or starve their addiction[which would take some pretty bad poo-flinging to cause])


but the problem with this is some A$SHOLES abuse this, and greatly hurt the GOOD games, rather than just paying the dam money for it!

*sigh* wherever theirs power, those people will abuse it... whether it be the videogame companies,or the pirates, or really any other aspect of life..if an individual hold enough power, they will at some point abuse it for their own personal gain, hurting the very system that they profited from

 

[Oopsie]

This is terrible. Pirating spore or bioshock (the last one I even bought) couldn't make me care less. But pirating a game from stardock, which acts with the best interests of gamers in mind is just terrible.

I'll be buying the game simply to support stardock. I'm not even going to see if I like it.

 

[sniperworm]

DISCLAIMER: I too am appalled at this. The majority of my post may make it seem otherwise.

I loved SupCom.
I love GPG.
I love Stardock.
I loved GalCiv and Entrepreneur.

I was honestly considering going to pirate this game.

Not to smite the company. Not to selfishly, effectively steal it, but to try it out.

I first tried Fallout 3 from a pirated copy and I ended up purchasing that.

I'd like to have a demo of Demigod available for download, since that's all I'd pirate it for anyway. To try it. And if I don't like it in a few hours or the first few levels, I uninstall it. And if I love it, I buy it. Not just for the online features, but for supporting the company.

Not many people feel this way, I'm sure, but personally, I think torrents are a wonderful tool that companies should be using more for their advantage. Leak demos of the game and such that people will hype themselves up about and share with their friends.

I keep hearing about it being just DotA with better graphics, which I am not paying 50 dollars for. I'd like to see it in action before automatically dismissing it. I looked up youtube videos and it seems like a slow-paced version of DotA. Would you pay much for a custom map from an RTS you got in 2005? Surely you can understand where I'm coming from.

I figure maybe the game is different, maybe some heroes are different, but they say there's only 8, and I hope that they just release more as DLC, but if they do that, hey, pirates shouldn't be able to easily download it, but I digress.

The point that I meant to get at is that I like to try things before I drop 50 dollars on a purchase. Let alone a purchase that (if it lives up to its hype of being a DotA clone) one that I already have.

I'm not going to say I sympathize with the pirates, but I'm saying maybe 5% of them have a reason for doing what they do, and I bet 90% of the people torrenting the game wouldn't have ever played it otherwise. Maybe the companies involved should just take it as a compliment of "Hm, people are interested..." but you know, they'd get the same effect if they had released a demo of their game as a torrent. I personally know that if the game wasn't readily available, I would wait until it was 20 bucks before I even consider picking up the box.

I don't think any game should be pirated so much (okay, maybe Big Rigs). I honestly wish it was more difficult to do. Maybe it would be used better. But I simply don't know a solution. Any DRM will eventually be cracked. No DRM will be rampant. Stardock is a great PC strategy game dev and publisher, and they deserve better.

But I would feel somewhat justified in pirating this game, playing 4 skirmish matches, and then uninstalling it. It's unfair to expect me to pay for what might certainly be a shitty product without even really knowing what it is.

~~~~

I actually did exactly that, my system thanks to a broken graphics card is sitting just under the minimum specs. I have been following this game for a while and just simply wanted to know if I could run it. 5 confusing minutes later I had my answer, the game was uninstalled and I was left wondering where the tutorial was.

Leaving out the tutorial is a nice way of prodding people into wanting a legal copy more, and save dev time. I was completely confused on how to play

I miss demo's it's a lot more hassle to actually pirate the game just to find out if it runs well on my rig.

 

[Bonde]

this is why DRM is a double edged sword. I have never heard of Demigod before this incident, but im thinking about buying it just so they can see some profit from the game. Almost all software Pirates cant afford the program because they are too poor to buy it. Developers could go like EA and have you validate online before you play, its a good solution.

The thing is that people who don't bother to work and earn money to buy their own entertainment shouldn't be able to get the said entertainment for free, just because they are lazy. They can't be that poor, since they somehow can afford a computer that can run the latest games.
I think if this piracy continues, the DRM will be made stronger and stronger, and with more and more rules and restrictions, which is sad, because the developers have to pay money for it that they could have used in the production. This means the customers get less for their money. I don't think it will stop piracy, but it will atleast make it so complicated that average PC users havnen't got the skill to pirate software anymore, so they'll have to buy it.
It's sad but it will happen if people don't stop pirating, which they won't.

 

[freebiewitz]

The people who worked at Demi-god didnt put in DRM because they respected the players enough not to do it and then the pirates come in and crap all over that respect! For goodness sake they might've destroyed a good company..... maybe Demigod should go to steam or something maybe that'll help?

 

[chronobreak]

I don't think most people really follow or care who the developer is, or about their intentions. Most people just want to play the game. We just all happen to be aware of it.

EDIT: Also,

Here's a word to any pirates posting here.

Shut the fuck up!

We don't want your petty justifications, we don't want your flimsy excuses, just stop talking. If you pirate, you're an asshole and nothing will change that.

This should be a bannable offense. You are clearly going out of your way to insult people, and have no respect for dissenting opinion, rendering your place on a "discussion" forum quite moot, as you have no interest in real discussion.

 

[timmytom1]

... And they wonder why some of the less srupulous devs use ridiculous DRM