Drunken Father Kills Son, Missing Videogame Blamed

annoyinglizardvoice

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Stupid title from a stupid paper.

Blame the man first, the fact that he was a light-weight in my books if booze can make him behave like that before it can incapacitate him seond, and possibly blame the gun third for enabling a drunken moron to hit a fleeing target easily.
 

Therumancer

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I think it's political as much as anything. Right now we're dominated by the left wing, and the left wing is all for censorship and greater goverment control. So is the right wing, but the left pursues it much more vehemently and tends to be smarter about it, trying to establish precedent by getting people to give up their rights "for their own protection".

People on the left like to pretend this is not true of the media (and point at like Fox as "proof" tht it's not universal), however to me, and others there definatly seems to be a connection. While the justifications are differant Obama, Clinton, and the Media are all attacking games from slightly differant directions. Irregardless of what the exact arguement is, the implication is always the same: games should be regulated by the goverment for moral reasons. Once they can do that, then the precedent exists for them to regulate ANYTHING for moral reasons, one step at a time.

Now granted, many people involved might be well intentioned (it's more of an idea held by a lot of people, rather than a direct conspiricy) but it's hardly a good thing.

I suspect articles like this have the headlines they do specifically so people will get a specific opinion by glancing over it. Hoping for cumulative effect "oh gee, it happened again, no need to actually read the article, I already know what it's going to say". You read the article and you find out the details aren't what the headline implies, but still that headline is there for a reason and I think it's written that way specifically for the "benefit" of people who will just glance over it while looking to other articles without reading it.

Simply my thoughts, I'm sure many will disagree of course. There are no easy solutions to the problem, irregardless of what you feel the cause is.
 

cobra_ky

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Malygris said:
Maybe I'm being a little oversensitive. Maybe if the argument had originally started because nobody could find the TV remote, the headline would scream, "Man Kills Son Because He Couldn't Change the Channel." But I rather doubt it.
oh, they absolutely would. A murder with bizarre circumstances is pure gold for a local news reporter.
 

Mr. Socky

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Rampant gun culture? Guns are fine (as long as you don't sell them to people with any history of criminal activity or mental issues). If we didn't have guns the bad guys would still illegally get them, then we'd really be screwed.

The article is sad, but I'm not surprised that people are blaming video games on it.
 

Amnestic

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cobrausn said:
Malygris said:
And as long as stories like this attract follow-up user comments like, "Lends some credence to video games causing violence" - not booze, not socio-economic conditions, not a rampant gun culture...
See, you had a reasonable post until about here. Despite our 'rampant gun culture' as people who don't know what they're talking about would call it, our gun crime rates our lower than many other obviously 'enlightened' places where people don't know anything about them except that they, of course, are the cause of murder.

Ghetto thug kills son. End of story. As long as Mexico keeps sending it's criminals our direction this will keep happening.
Define "'Enlightened' places" for us please. Feel free to pick out names from this list. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence#Homicides_by_country]

I can note, with a certain degree of smug satisfaction, that England+Wales is second lowest for firearm homicide rates per 100,000. Second only to Singapore.
 

HT_Black

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This is especially unnerving for me, because something almost exactly like this happened to me not too long ago...shiver...
 

Kiutu

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This seems more like a promotion for stereotypes of Texas than fake stereotypes against games. Drunken Texan with a gun.
 

duckfi8

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Krakyn said:
What videogame was it? That's what I want to know. If it was my copy of Nintendo World Championships: Gold Edition, the murder could possibly be justified.
i wanna know the same thing
 

Tempest Fox

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You know what I'd love to see? I'd love to see every single naysayer of video games, every person that says video games are a threat to our society, every last one of them taken to the Children's Hospitals that have been generously given video games and give them something to help cope with their everyday struggles. I'd love to see them stand behind the scenes during a Child's Play event. I'd love to see them attend any sort of gaming expo and see the camaraderie that's established amongst those in attendance.

...sure, may never happen, but one can dream, right? Really, I'm just tired of the whole outcry of games are evil bit (as I'm fairly sure many of you are as well). It was certainly unfortunate as far as what had happened, but the dad was a toolshed and couldn't hold himself accountable for his actions. He made the decision and now has to live with the consequence of said decision.
 

PsychoKez

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Krakyn said:
What videogame was it? That's what I want to know. If it was my copy of Nintendo World Championships: Gold Edition, the murder could possibly be justified.
it'd have to be my special edition silent hill, my friends know i value it above lif
 

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HardRockSamurai said:
Malygris said:
The Houston Chronicle [http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6685584.html] headline - "Houston Dad Killed Son Over Videogame" - makes the act sound like some kind of psychotic payback for too many ass-kickings in Mortal Kombat rather than what it really is: A drunken scumbag with a gun and a "prior criminal history" who finally took his abusive behavior too far.
Yeah, that headline is really misleading. I hate it when the media does stuff like this.
The irony?

The Escapist does it all the time in their news stories.
 

Gigano

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cball11 said:
"Retarded drunken gunman murders son"
"Drunken man shoots son in neck"
"After 3-Hour Stand-Off, Alleged Murderer of Own Son Arrested"

All good headlines. But wait! A video game was within driving distance of the man at some point in the last week!

Perhaps they mentioned it happened over a video game to draw attention to the fair fact of how (sensationally) petty the reason for the murder of his own son was, which none of those headlines would immediately call out on. Had it happended over a lost cup of coffee or pack of cards, that probably would have been in the headline as well (I don't neccesarily agree with the OP on the the TV-remote thing - I think that would/should have made the headlines as well). Perhaps they should have included "drunken" in the headline too though.

That's not to say that the media (or this media in particular) isn't biased against video games, many media outlets are contributing to an unfounded moral panic (though I've seen none of it here so far), but like the laughable initial opposition to Jazz or Rock & Roll as dangerous new kinds of music, it will die out as more and more people become familiar with them, and discover that they aren't any more dangerous than anything out of Hollywood, and can be great fun.
 

CrazyGirl17

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Killed over a video game? Now that's just stupid, especially since it seems to be more the fault of a drunken rage than a video game...

Though some people probably would end up jumping to conclusions instead...
 

Murlin

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This is just another convenient way of blaming all of humanity's f*cking problems on video games... It's getting a tad boring now actually
 

notsosavagemessiah

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I mean, i get it, the dad killed his son over a video game (and yes, that is why he was killed, well, that and the father was drunk). I think what's wrong is that people are forgetting the issue, this is about a murder, not a video game. It's like that mexican guy killed in shanendoah (spelling?) last year, people say that if he wasn't here illegally, that never would have happened, so therefore his killers are innocent. Never mind the fact that he was murdered and the killers say it was a drunken ethnic rage. It bothers me that the ignorant are so easily distracted by the issues surrounding the murders, and not the murder itself.
 

jdnoth

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Drunken father kills son, missing video game blamed.
Drug addict over-doses and dies of a brain haemorrhage, irritating girlfriend called in for questioning
 

bcponpcp27

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Video games are the scapegoat for everything now. The problem with these bogus theories (besides being bogus) is that almost EVERYONE has some kind of video games in the house now. It's like saying the dad freaked out because of missing toothpaste. Everyone has it, stop trying to blame it!