The term cash shop means a very specific thing when applied to MMOs. ESO doesn't have a cash shop on top of a sub, it doesn't have a cash shop period.Mega Messiah said:
Elder Scrolls Online's First Microtransaction Is a Horse
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It's completely greedy but wow proved you could charge people full price and sub and give them little or nothing for it.Drummodino said:
They just seeing how far they can push it in the pure greed dept.
There is NO excuse when charging a sub to play a game to not provide bi monthly content updates for free at bare minimium. maybe 2 or 3 months but charging for expansions? charging for haroses? charging for boosts and the like, you are a f2p game trying to charge a sub and if people fall for it i weep for humanity, but they will and they will in droves and the next generation of greed is justified.
and bring on the announcement of "we have decided to make the fallout MMO instead, and cease working on FO4!"Falsename said:
i can understand charging for a mount, if it is simply a skin (horse armour for once kinda makes sense). but having to buy the actual ability to ride the mount is just fucking greedy. didn't old republic pull this shit when they went free to play?
This is not good. Not good at all. I was looking forward to the game, and was going to try and purchase the Imperial edition for my xbox one in the next week or so. But now.... I dont know.
You don't have to buy the ability to ride a mount with cash. You can buy a mount with 17k gold. It's just kind of a pain in the ass on your first character, so they added a cheap mount as part of the CE, and now they're allowing people to buy just that portion of the CE with a different skin. TOR went full asshole and charges for more quickslot bars and the ability to equip 'epic' gear, among other things.suitepee7 said:
Off the top of my head, the male leather trench-coat became a 10 dollar item, the men's shirts with ties became 4 dollars each. The female leather jacket with embroidered designs became a 5 dollar item, the men's poncho became a 4 dollar item... the punk and racing jackets for women all became 2 or 3 dollar items.Halyah said:
Really, anything that didn't look like shit got bundled into the store... oddly it was almost everything I saw frequently on players during the beta. Of course, we're also talking about the game that pumped out a 100 dollar tux... and answered complaints about augments drops being crap by releasing them as a possible drop in a grab bag that goes for 1.30, or 3.33... ugh.
I think they bumped them all to 42k, but that could have been a glitch.SecondPrize said:
Also, the usually cited complaint is that enemies drop 1gp per... and that's true... but as you advance through the game, gold does become much easier to acquire. And, on a character I played a couple hours over the weekend, I'd managed to rack up about 5k, without really trying to.
Yeah, the horse doesn't actually bother me. It could be a bad sign, but I don't think so. From what I've seen with the game, there's a real focus on NOT introducing a slurry of microtransactions. Doesn't mean there can't be any, but there's no obvious chopped out features.
FalloutJack said:
You win the internets today, congratulations.
Untrue. In WoW, the mount is the skin and you still have to purchase the training from vendors in-game using gold; there's no way around this. Essentially, mounts in WoW are cosmetic. In TESO, there's no training needed and the mount is the ability to increase travel speed, thus it is far more than just cosmetic and it is game breaking (especially in Cyrodille, where the distance between fights is either 10 minutes walking or 4 minutes riding a horse).GrinningCat said:
Oh for God's sake. You want to have a subscription fee? Fine, it's a legit business model, if not the most popular one. You want to have a cash shop? Fine, just so long as what it offers is cosmetic and/or convenience items and not demanding a person pay to get the basic features of the game after it was advertised as F2P. But having BOTH? No. No, no, nonononononono. $15 a month is too much to ask from a customer to THEN demand MORE real money from them. Make those items available for in-game currency; don't get greedy when you're already getting regular payments from customers.
You can buy a horse with in-game currency. You can't buy the Palmino horse in game though. Speaking of in game, the term cash shop in mmos has always referred to an in game item store which accepts real money. That's why people raised a fuss about WoW adding a cash shop when they had already sold services and skins through account management for years. With ESO you have to go to account management to buy the imperial upgrade, cheap spotty horse and name change. It's not a cash shop.Mike Fang said:
Now release armour DLC for the horse and these shenanigans shall come full circle. I do wonder if it was done on purpose though, like intentional trolling on their part.
- Buy the game for $60
- Pay a $15 monthly fee
- Probably still have to buy expansion packs
- Still they have microtransactions
If I were interested in MMO's, I would still say fuck that.
- Pay a $15 monthly fee
- Probably still have to buy expansion packs
- Still they have microtransactions
If I were interested in MMO's, I would still say fuck that.
Theres mounts in the game when I playtested but they're ludicrously expensive for a starting player. Creating an early imbalance like this is kinda of shit. WoW offers mounts but you absolutely must still have the level and ability to ride it (also there 250+ amazing ones you can get just by playing normally, the store ones are only marginally nicer). I did not see any such methodology in ESOElfgore said:
Honestly I wouldn't recommend this MMO... I dunno what the hell they're doing with it.
"Things are not looking good for the wallets of Elder Scrolls fans."
Actually, no, I think this is more of a problem for Zenimax...
It's a great MMO, as far as that go's, and I wish those who play it well. But me? No, not unless it goes F2P, or has a sub along the lines of a yearly discounted fee (like XBL or PS+).
Subs plus microtransactions can go straight to hell, unless it is simply convenience stuff that can be earned eventually anyway (like mounts in SWTOR). Even still, at least SWTOR is F2P, I'd never dream of paying for it otherwise (I never paid for it anyway...but still).
Actually, no, I think this is more of a problem for Zenimax...
This completely. I've played the beta, there isn't anything there that will convince me to pry $15/mo from my wallet, in addition to whatever other bollocks they try to take from me.Mega Messiah said:
It's a great MMO, as far as that go's, and I wish those who play it well. But me? No, not unless it goes F2P, or has a sub along the lines of a yearly discounted fee (like XBL or PS+).
Subs plus microtransactions can go straight to hell, unless it is simply convenience stuff that can be earned eventually anyway (like mounts in SWTOR). Even still, at least SWTOR is F2P, I'd never dream of paying for it otherwise (I never paid for it anyway...but still).
This must be a joke, seriously. EA has a contender for worst gaming company ever otherwise, at least their microtransactions come after only paying for the base game, not paying an additional fee per month.
Hopefully this is just a joke or a momentary decision, if not then this is an article that truely demonstrates what a mess the gaming industry is in.
Vote with your wallets.
Hopefully this is just a joke or a momentary decision, if not then this is an article that truely demonstrates what a mess the gaming industry is in.
Vote with your wallets.