Elder Scrolls Online's First Microtransaction Is a Horse
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It doesn't make it right. Especially when they are charging you 14.99 a month just to have access to their game.Flutterguy said:
This is becoming much like anti EA blind hate. Getting crucified and singled out for things everyone else does too, and started doing it way before them.
Also way to write a non biased article.
Also way to write a non biased article.
You really wanna see gouging? Look at the Blizzard store right now. You can BUY MAX LEVEL for WoW. Not to mention its a decade old game which has held it's 14.99$ a month model since its inception. I have yet to see thread complaining about that though. Oh right thats because the majority of threads are just people parroting the popular opinion, which right now is just how dissa-fucking-pointed they are with ESO.Clive Howlitzer said:
How about the 7 million players worldwide who think its a fun game?Flutterguy said:
The cash shop is also non intrusive, youre not given a quest to "fake purchase" an item from the money shop in a tutorial and what they sell is completly cosmetic and gives you absolutely 0 advantage over other players.
Unless riding a "faboulus" mount is somehow an advantage.
And to top it all off they introduced the cash shop YEARS after their initial run.
Oh and the pay for max level thing? Has existed for years too.. only before blizzard offered it you had illegal "leveling" services that if you where stupid enough to use them would likely end up with a stolen account. So blizzard is simply taking away the market from those shady "businesmen" in china.
Also the max level thing really is not a big deal after more then a decade and 90 character levels. People are just sick and tired of leveling up their twinks through the same old content they had for years now.
What i do agree about thought is that their subscription model needs its pricing cut... the game is so old it simply doesnt feel right anymore to still demand 14 euros a month.
Let me get this straight. This game has
1. A one-time purchase requirement of the disc of 60$
2. A subscription required to play
3. Microtransactions
So, they use ALL three payment methods of an MMO at once while every other sets for one of them (maybe two if one is purely cosmetic Microtransactions)?
This has "going to bomb" written all over it. WHO WOULD BUY THIS?
1. A one-time purchase requirement of the disc of 60$
2. A subscription required to play
3. Microtransactions
So, they use ALL three payment methods of an MMO at once while every other sets for one of them (maybe two if one is purely cosmetic Microtransactions)?
This has "going to bomb" written all over it. WHO WOULD BUY THIS?
I absolutely can. As stated already, that is if you bothered to read my post at all, this mount s barely faster than sprinting speed, and that's if you are sprinting while riding the thing. I played the last beta, I rode the mount. It's not as impressive as you give it credit for. At normal speed you might as well dismount and run to the nearest battle. What advantage in PvP is there besides giving your opponent the ability to see you coming from a mile away, giving them ample time to set up defenses? It's there to look good, and again, I seriously doubt that Zenimax is going to charge anywhere close to the insane prices Activision charges for their mounts. It's a go-between for players not buying the deluxe edition.Karadalis said:
So you have to buy the game, then you have to pay a monthly subscription, and on top of that they have the nerve to include microtransactions? Yeah, any chance of me actually getting this is gone.
I don't know if any of you Beta-players tried the Cyrodil PVP campaign, but you NEED a horse. Preferably one with Nitro Boosters. The map is huge and fast travel is limited to when you die and when your faction has connected outposts. The time I spent slogging from my factions closest outpost to the front lines of the battlefield was tortuous. Every death was disheartening because I knew I had a eight minute ride to get back. Yes, you can set up forward camps, but those are expensive and have a limited duration. So yeah, horses are awesome. I had enough money by the end of this beta to get one and while it did make travel faster, it was still too long on the Cyrodil Map.
Can I say that I think that WoW is horribly overpriced too (main reason I don't play it) and sink your argument right now? This monetization strategy is shit, WoW just manages to get away with it because they've somehow managed to convince people that they're worth it, but TESO hasn't. Plus, WoW has features such as a pre-existing community, a well known history of generally doing right by the players, and a reputation of being a decent game. TESO has none of these, so there's no fucking way it should be attempting to pull off a monetization strategy so bold. Really I don't think any game should cost so much to play.Remus said:
Also, arguing that a mount in an MMO (or Elder Scrolls game) doesn't give any sort of advantage is pure, steaming bullshit and you know it. Feel free to offer up good points as to why TESO is worth the sort of money that I don't even think WoW is worth, but don't feed me crap like that. We've all played MMOs, we've all played Elder Scrolls games, we know that mounts are really fucking useful. Saying shit like that only hurts your chances of convincing anyone of anything and makes people think you're a fanboy for a game that isn't even out yet.
I think they've gone insane, and it makes me sad that I may not see another single player game in this series if it bombs.
My only complaint about ESO at the moment is that it needs to get bug fixes out and fast. The game might be okay after they get everything working properly, but I'd advise against buying into ESO on launch day. We also wont really know 100% if the approach the company is taking to mix and matching the online genre and the sandbox "do as one wants" approach until there's more people playing the game regularly.
The term cash shop means a very specific thing when applied to MMOs. ESO doesn't have a cash shop on top of a sub, it doesn't have a cash shop period.Mega Messiah said:
It's completely greedy but wow proved you could charge people full price and sub and give them little or nothing for it.Drummodino said:
They just seeing how far they can push it in the pure greed dept.
There is NO excuse when charging a sub to play a game to not provide bi monthly content updates for free at bare minimium. maybe 2 or 3 months but charging for expansions? charging for haroses? charging for boosts and the like, you are a f2p game trying to charge a sub and if people fall for it i weep for humanity, but they will and they will in droves and the next generation of greed is justified.
and bring on the announcement of "we have decided to make the fallout MMO instead, and cease working on FO4!"Falsename said:
i can understand charging for a mount, if it is simply a skin (horse armour for once kinda makes sense). but having to buy the actual ability to ride the mount is just fucking greedy. didn't old republic pull this shit when they went free to play?
This is not good. Not good at all. I was looking forward to the game, and was going to try and purchase the Imperial edition for my xbox one in the next week or so. But now.... I dont know.
You don't have to buy the ability to ride a mount with cash. You can buy a mount with 17k gold. It's just kind of a pain in the ass on your first character, so they added a cheap mount as part of the CE, and now they're allowing people to buy just that portion of the CE with a different skin. TOR went full asshole and charges for more quickslot bars and the ability to equip 'epic' gear, among other things.suitepee7 said:
Off the top of my head, the male leather trench-coat became a 10 dollar item, the men's shirts with ties became 4 dollars each. The female leather jacket with embroidered designs became a 5 dollar item, the men's poncho became a 4 dollar item... the punk and racing jackets for women all became 2 or 3 dollar items.Halyah said:
Really, anything that didn't look like shit got bundled into the store... oddly it was almost everything I saw frequently on players during the beta. Of course, we're also talking about the game that pumped out a 100 dollar tux... and answered complaints about augments drops being crap by releasing them as a possible drop in a grab bag that goes for 1.30, or 3.33... ugh.