Escape to the Movies: This Means War

[370999]

Funny how Bob's angry, biased hatred towards the Star Trek reboot keeps popping up still. After all, Pine was the one thing (alongside Spock) that nearly all critics and audiences agreed on was hit out of the ballpark and had great charisma and screen presence.

But, this is Bob, so the whole "I'm going to keep bringing this up because I'm still pissed about it, despite writing a whole article telling people off on holding on to things" shenanigans still keeps showing up in these "reviews".

Ahh, but you forget, Chirs Pine was in a Star Trex movie which didn't cater exclusively to Bob, so it was therefore bad. And as such everyone involved in it is a bad actor, if Bob wants them to be. The director, Abrams get's a pass though because Bob is ambivalent about some of his work.

Remember it's about your chidlhood being justaposed with now, if you feel left out then it's wrong.

Except for Star Wars fans because Bob has changed his mind on that.

Remember the whole "No calling out a critic for hypocriscy" rule Bob introduced. Yeah.

 

[artanis_neravar]

There are plenty of valid reasons to hate Manga and Anime, as there are plenty of reasons to love it, so just outright going and saying "I hate it, I don't need to explain myself" and then attempting to pose as a professional critic is pathetic.

You'd be right if he covered an anime on Escape to the Movies and gave it a bad review, but he hasn't, so he doesn't have to justify it. He doesn't like anime or manga, get over it.

but all it does is make you seem like an uneducated dunce who likes mouthing off on this that you don't have any actual knowledge of.

This makes no sense at all, since when do you have to explain to people you likes and dislikes, every time a song comes on that you love do you stop to explain to people why you like it? I doubt it, people just get so offended when someone doesn't like something that they like

 

[Seamus8]

But... what about those of us who liked the second act of true lies?

Almost liked it enough to excuse the first and second acts for the xenophobia and racism?

There was nothing in the second act of true lies that wasn't excused/justified by both partners being in the wrong. This movie seeks to set up a similar situation by having the female lead be a two-timer, giving a thinly veiled justification of all the events to come.

It's fantasy over reality anyway, a more real approach to the second act of true lies would have been to have the husband find out his wife is cheating and kill both her and the man she is cheating with. That isn't exactly romcom material, just emotion driven vigilante justice. Though I guess some people have a problem with the whole 'guilty conscience' mentality in the first place, I'm not one of them. This isn't a fidelity-for-females double standard either, it applies to men as well.

If the movie is structurally unsound, poorly executed, or just unfunny then I still don't want to waste money seeing it. On the other hand, I liked the trailer and was generally intrigued by the premise of the movie. Since I am dragged to most of these romcoms by my wife, seeing the female protagonist she undoubtedly empathizes with being treated as if she was in a tumble dryer might make me much more likely to enjoy it.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

It's hard to take Bob's criticism of Pine seriously since it seems to stem from "ZOMG NEW STUFF IS NEW AND BAD" fanboy rage which is becoming an increasingly common and overt theme in his content. But I suppose that's balanced against his monocle-polishing film-snob side which forces him to give Oscar-bait like Tree of Life movie of the year recognition while still condemning "Oscar season". He's quite the maelstrom of extremes and contradictions.

Also, does anyone really give a shit about yet another attempt to reboot the ninja turtles? It's been done, what, 5 times between TV shows and straight-to-DVD movies?

I'm agreeing with you on his complaints about Pine. The dude seemed like a decent Kirk to me, he was just overshadowed by Bones, Scotty, and Syla-I mean Spock. Also, is anyone remotely surprised that Bob doesn't like a romantic-comedy? Sure, they're formulaic and repetitive most of the time, but every genre of film is like that. If you're not a fan of a genre, then maybe just avoid them altogether.

I keep watching Bob's reviews kind of randomly, hoping that maybe he'll stop railing from atop his geek soapbox, or change the hypocrisy of complaining about misogyny while being all "Hey look! Scarlett Johannsen's tits!". I keep being disappointed. I've given up on Bob entirely now, really.

 

[artanis_neravar]

but all it does is make you seem like an uneducated dunce who likes mouthing off on this that you don't have any actual knowledge of.

This makes no sense at all, since when do you have to explain to people you likes and dislikes, every time a song comes on that you love do you stop to explain to people why you like it? I doubt it, people just get so offended when someone doesn't like something that they like

Like I said, you don't HAVE to explain anything, but then you also should be prepared for people to think less of you. It's like going around and saying, "man, I hate women/black people/different religions" and then when asked why just responding with "I don't have to explain, it's my right to have an opinion!"

See how stupid that makes a person look?

And no, I'm not comparing liking or disliking anime and manga to any of those things, but simply pointing out that a person who gives out his opinions and voices them in public should consider the why's and hows before he says things. It's simply to better yourself, and the level of the conversation.

For example, I think a lot of the manga is dull and repetitive. The storylines are either ridiculously simplistic with lots and lot of bruahaha and hyperactive behavior covering up the bad writing, or then alternatively they're so dense with minute lore that nobody can pick them up unless they've followed the soap operas for years and years.

But then again, there are great anime stories, like Galaxy Express 999, Ghost in the Shell and almost anything by Studio Ghilbi that tell coherent, well thought out stories that have beautiful writing, animation and are directing masterclass in all areas.

See how simple that can be?

Wow did you really just compare disliking manga to being a bigot? That makes you look stupid.

Manga and anime are always one way, they have a specific definition and they need to fall into that definition to be consider manga or anime. While Dragon Ball doesn't represent all anime it represents a good portion of the anime in America. The same idea does not apply to human, because we vary so much in personality that we can not be truly defined by our gender, religion, or skin color.

A more fitting example would have been disliking rap music, which I do, there are some exceptions, but for the most part I do not like rap, I can't really eplain it it just isn't to my liking.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Google image search red carpet photos of Reese Witherspoon and compare them to this movie poster of This Means War. If the movie didn't objectify women enough, this blatant photo shopping sure did.

 

[artanis_neravar]

but all it does is make you seem like an uneducated dunce who likes mouthing off on this that you don't have any actual knowledge of.

This makes no sense at all, since when do you have to explain to people you likes and dislikes, every time a song comes on that you love do you stop to explain to people why you like it? I doubt it, people just get so offended when someone doesn't like something that they like

Like I said, you don't HAVE to explain anything, but then you also should be prepared for people to think less of you. It's like going around and saying, "man, I hate women/black people/different religions" and then when asked why just responding with "I don't have to explain, it's my right to have an opinion!"

See how stupid that makes a person look?

And no, I'm not comparing liking or disliking anime and manga to any of those things, but simply pointing out that a person who gives out his opinions and voices them in public should consider the why's and hows before he says things. It's simply to better yourself, and the level of the conversation.

For example, I think a lot of the manga is dull and repetitive. The storylines are either ridiculously simplistic with lots and lot of bruahaha and hyperactive behavior covering up the bad writing, or then alternatively they're so dense with minute lore that nobody can pick them up unless they've followed the soap operas for years and years.

But then again, there are great anime stories, like Galaxy Express 999, Ghost in the Shell and almost anything by Studio Ghilbi that tell coherent, well thought out stories that have beautiful writing, animation and are directing masterclass in all areas.

See how simple that can be?

Wow did you really just compare disliking manga to being a bigot? That makes you look stupid.

Manga and anime are always one way, they have a specific definition and they need to fall into that definition to be consider manga or anime. While Dragon Ball doesn't represent all anime it represents a good portion of the anime in America. The same idea does not apply to human, because we vary so much in personality that we can not be truly defined by our gender, religion, or skin color.

A more fitting example would have been disliking rap music, which I do, there are some exceptions, but for the most part I do not like rap, I can't really eplain it it just isn't to my liking.

WOW, did you just manage to both misunderstand (or not even read what I wrote) about BOTH opinions and manga?

I'm curious how you can handle even normal conversations if you miss the point so well. Notice how I wrote about BOTH things on how they're not as simple, but for the sake of argument had to be presented as such. Also, you might notice how I even said how manga or anime AREN'T always the same, yet you go right on babbling inanely about how they are that.

So, well done on missing the point and all, but really, don't you find that it makes having discussions with people a lot harder?

And your argument is wrong, it add nothing to your point, and there was no need to include it, including it made your point weaker. All I said is that manga and anime have to fit a certain definition, and, as i said, while DBZ doesn't represent all anime it represents a lot of the anime that is popular here.

And no, I'm not comparing liking or disliking anime and manga to any of those things, but simply pointing out that a person who gives out his opinions and voices them in public should consider the why's and hows before he says things.

the comparison is still flawed and stupid, you are trying to compare voicing a hate for people based on a cursory observation of their physical appearance to disliking a form of entertainment. One has a deep rooted cause and generally makes you act like a bad person, and one just mean you have a different taste, can you guess which is which? So, as I said, those two can not be compared at all, not even "for the sake of the argument".

 

[PunkRex]

A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle reboot? Unless April O'Neil shows up with a bright yellow jumpsuit unzipped to the belt I WILL BE DISAPOINT SIRS AND MADAMS!!!

Come on Hollywood, I believe in you!!!

And we all know that unzipped jumpsuit should be occupied by Christina Hendrix. The Jugs-o-meter would be off the scale!

*Doesnt know who Christina Hendricks is so types name into google*
0_0 Dear Christ... wha... who... der... /)^3^(\ MY GAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!

 

[LordSchucker]

god can you imagine in Michael Bay directed a TMNT movie.

 

[LordLundar]

Oh so that's the idea. I thought it was going to be something more interesting that morse code but it's just the authors signature.

The Morse Code in the Spy vs. Spy comic was Antonio Prohías' signature mark. So much so that it is still used in the comics almost 14 years after he passed away and the comic has changed authors and artists several times since.

 

[Friendstastegood]

I personally like Bandits a lot more as a romantic-action-comedy-thing than Mr. and Mrs. Smith, but I'm guessing I'm the only one...

And TMNT with Christina Hendricks as April in a massiv cleavage yellow jump-suit? Hell yeah, I'd watch that

And on the whole misogony, misandry issue, this movie doesn't sound like it does any favours for either gender, but lets not give it more credit then it's due: it's not Hitler reincarnated, it's just a bad movie.

 

[SnakeoilSage]

So, what, this movie is basically the adult version of someone telling a four year old girl the only reason a boy harasses or hits her on the playground is because he secretly likes her?

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle reboot? Unless April O'Neil shows up with a bright yellow jumpsuit unzipped to the belt I WILL BE DISAPOINT SIRS AND MADAMS!!!

Come on Hollywood, I believe in you!!!

And we all know that unzipped jumpsuit should be occupied by Christina Hendrix. The Jugs-o-meter would be off the scale!

*Doesnt know who Christina Hendricks is so types name into google*
0_0 Dear Christ... wha... who... der... /)^3^(\ MY GAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!

As far as I'm concerned, Christina Hendricks has but one calling in life: to become the live action Power Girl.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

WHY YOU NO ARRIETTY!!!

Seriously Bob, why waste your time with 2 garbage movies like Ghost Rider 2 & This Means War.
Studio Ghibli finally gets another movie released in the US, and you give it a complete snub.

Arriety isn't anything good either. Worst of all Myiazaki films I saw. It feels old and cliché, which is understandable since it's based on an old story.

But I've never been a fan of his movies, so don't take my opinion highly.

Actually it wasn't directed by Miyazaki; it was the debut of Hiromasa Yonebayashi. Contrary to mistaken belief not EVERY Ghibli project is done by Miyazaki

 

[anonymity88]

At least it show us what happen when intelligence agency have too much power and money

And minimal intelligence.

www.instantrimshot.com

 

[Siege_TF]

The Battle: LA guy still has a job?! If I screwed up that badly at my job I know I'd be fired!

Also predicting that April will be more like the modern washboard April rather than the retro busty April. Breasts on women is so 2005.

 

[dsawyers9]

Sadly enough, Bob was wrong about this film.
My wife and I went to see this and there were some good part and of course some bad parts.

But overall it was good and I suggest it for couples

 

[Kuth]

Cause she's clearly dating two men at the same time to see which one is better and which she'd like to commit to... Also, how is thinking that is wrong sexist? I'd think the same if it was a man doing it to a girl, girl doing it to a girl, ect.

Dating is when a relationship is beginning to form, least that's how it works here. This isn't just one date then moving on. They are actively dating and probably getting to the sex part. Though here she's doing it with two men at the same time, having two relationships... So yeah two timing.

Dating is what you do to see if you want a relationship, not the actual start of a relationship that comes later (up to a year or more in some cases).

Guess it depends on the culture. Where I come from, actively dating pretty much = relationship. Maybe it's only around the beginning stages of a relationship but its still classed as one. Maybe its different in the states. Here, dating two people at a time is generally considered a poor thing to do. Pretty much considered two timing.

Maybe I'm just not getting it or I'm a juvenile sexist (The sexist part I'm still waiting for an explanation on) or whatever but I really don't see how dating two people at the same time is a nice thing to do.

Edit: On reading these two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating#Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating#North_America I think I can see where I'm going wrong. Apparently this is the norm in American culture... In which case I'm probably in no place to judge. Here its a little different, thus my reasons for thinking that she is two timing.

I'm in the same boat as Sovvolf, I'm Irish and it would make people uncomfortable but if that's the norm then fair fucks, it's just I don't like the idea of decieving people.

As a Statesmen, I can tell you that dating two people is not in the norm, at least in the area I reside. Dating several people is fine for us, but that only happens on the first date. Dating several people at once is still outside the norm, especially when you go on several dates. It's seen as sleezy, sluttish, and just idiotic.

 

[Chaos42]

Pines a lump of clay no form or shape and its hardened so its worth less-his acting is stale and it doesn't help that every movie ive seen him as the main lead is bad.
overall this sounds dumber than hell-and using cia resources for messing up peoples dates -come on. I just can't see how people can keep doing this why do people keep going to these bad movies. Its like the media in the USA as a hole its gotten either so bad or diluted its getting really bad. And worse i fear this is going to make people who are growing up with this crap to think this is good.

A good example is shows like sponge bob- kids ive seen think things that shouldn't be funny are because the characters laugh about them and think their funny -its the same with this crap if we see nothing but bad movies growing up were going to keep watching them.


I would like it if we could get some decent movies -hell a good couple of movies NOT based on things that only share a name in common with the movie -battleship is an example -but the movies not out yet so i don't know. But come on how dumb a plot is this to base a movie of a simple board game. What next candy land as some kind of goth horror movie -or shoots and ladders as some kind of action spy movie.

Either way i think what we need to see are some better movies totally out shine the crap we are getting so that they can remind people what a good movie is.

 

[Azmael Silverlance]

The movie was good i genuenely enjoyed it and had bunch of good laughs
Bane *cough* Tom Hardy was awesome and that bad-ass british accent! The paint ball scene blew me away. Proves that with good music and directing even paint ball can look awesome xD

I think my only break from the movie was towards the end. It felt a bit rushed and under financed. THey couldve rapped it better.

But my biggest beef was in the restaurant when they fought each other. What was with the pissed off attitude. your a nerveous girl coming out of the bathroom to see a completely trashed and abandoned restaurant with the 2 guys you date on the ground beaten to a pulp. And your not even asking what happened? Your not freaking out?

Bleh sometimes its these weird things that really break the mood for me. I know its a movie and there were plenty of hollywood over-the-top moments but eh cmon . . .writers push your brains a bit harder.

Still with the exception of that i really enjoyed the movie and had a great dinner while watching