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bushwhacker2k

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BarbaricGoose said:
Heavy Rain had plot holes? This is news to me.
Lol, sarcasm ftw.

Yahtzee said:
Having bigged up Heavy Rain for its artistic achievement one sentence ago, I will now say that awarding it best story is making me want to blow raspberries until my cheeks flap right off my face. Yes, it was a virtually unprecedented blend of gameplay and story, but said story was an absolute mess of plot holes, incomprehensible motivations and for all its bluff, most of the decisions you made didn't matter shit until about half an hour before the end.
THANK YOU! GOD, did I hate this game...

Honestly overall I didn't see that much worth noting in 2010, some decent games but nothing truly amazing.
 

jjboat

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I agree with most of this, except for his harping on Heavy rain and Super Mario Galaxy 2. The general consensus is that Super Mario Galaxy 2 appears to be the same game on first glance but in play is a totally mind blowing achievement of game design. There are more new mechanics in a single level of this game than most sequels, or original titles for that matter. Heavy Rain had an amazing storyline with 3 dimensional characters and great twists. The so called plot holes are mostly due to the fact that depending on how you play you only see certain events happen. And even with plot holes, this game's story still operates on an unprecedented and entirely different level in comparison to most games ever made. Alan wake had its moments but was bogged down by weak side characters and dialogue. As for Yahtzee griping that dead rising 2 wasnt nominated, that is very hypocritical considering it is more so the same game as the first than Super Mario Galaxy 2.
 

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...Dance Central was a nominee... for best game... as voted by the public...

Dance... Cenral... was NOMINATED... for best game...

There... are people... that think DANCE FUCKING CENTRAL... was the best game of 2010...

...You guys... it's over. We've lost. It's not our pastime anymore. Time to hang up the controller, 'cause we're through.

Fucking Dance Central! Fuck you!
 

jjboat

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Carnagath said:
Well, everyone has a different opinion, but that doesn't make the BAFTA's bollocks. While I played Just Cause 2 with relative interest and had a bit of fun with DR2, I don't believe one can seriously nominate them for anything, and fun is a terribly subjective thing. I had more fun with Plants Vs Zombies than both of those games combined.

As for Bioshock 2, I would bet my left testicle that Yahtzee never actually finished the game. It is impossible for one who claims to appreciate a good story to have completely missed possibly the most moving and subtle story on fatherhood and loss to have ever appeared in the medium. Well, unless they quit 2 hours in because "HURR DURR it's the same game but you're a big daddy so fuck it I've got a bar to run".
Fucking thank you! Yahtzee is great for comedy but his taste in games is odd. He talks like he knows more than the rest of us(which is fine for laughs) but his head seems far to up his own ass. Bioshock 2 had a clumsy start but as it went on it became just as good as the first in many ways, the little sister section was pure genius. Just Cause 2 is fun in the same way that scribblenaughts main menu is fun. You get a bunch of cool toys and a fun playground, but once the novelty wears off and you have to do those missions, tedium kicks in. I like a lot of games that i dont think deserve awards, but Yahtzee seems to think just because he enjoys a game that it is the best of the year even if it is riddled with flaws(Dead Rising 2). Thanks for sticking up for Bioshock 2 though, you did it better than i could have.
 

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WolfEdge said:
...Dance Central was a nominee... for best game... as voted by the public...

Dance... Cenral... was NOMINATED... for best game...

There... are people... that think DANCE FUCKING CENTRAL... was the best game of 2010...

...You guys... it's over. We've lost. It's not our pastime anymore. Time to hang up the controller, 'cause we're through.

Fucking Dance Central! Fuck you!
Chill dude, have you even played it? its a very good game, Harmonix really brought their A game and it shows, this is the most innovative rhythm/party game in a long time. I don't even like the game much but from a design perspective it works really well and does something no game has done before.
 

jjboat

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jjboat said:
WolfEdge said:
...Dance Central was a nominee... for best game... as voted by the public...

Dance... Cenral... was NOMINATED... for best game...

There... are people... that think DANCE FUCKING CENTRAL... was the best game of 2010...

...You guys... it's over. We've lost. It's not our pastime anymore. Time to hang up the controller, 'cause we're through.

Fucking Dance Central! Fuck you!
Chill dude, have you even played it? its a very game, Harmonix really brought their A game and it shows, this is the most innovative rhythm/party game in a long time. I don't even like the game much but from a design perspective it works really well and does something no game has done before.
Also, just replace Dance central with black ops and your comment is valid.
 

Rasputin1

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I'm surprised Just Cause 2 wasn't given the Most Actiony or w/e one. I mean.. you do pretty much nothing else in that game other than blow shit up.
 

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Rasputin1 said:
I'm surprised Just Cause 2 wasn't given the Most Actiony or w/e one. I mean.. you do pretty much nothing else in that game other than blow shit up.
I have to assume they have some weird rules, or that games have to be submitted for consideration or something. That would also explain why the same five-ish games got nominated for practically every category.

Otherwise my bet for Best Action game in 2010 would be Bayonetta, Bayonetta, Vanquish and Bayonetta.
 

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Holy predictably, predictable award shows Yatzeman, a main stream organization was unable to understand games well enough to put together a proper awards show?!?!?!?!?...sorry i could not resist. Hey at least BAFTA acknowledges that video games exist. As far as I know the American ATAS does not even talk about them.
 

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What the fuck happened to Red Dead in there? It had far more artistic value than GoW, the score was good and the story brilliant. That's not my only issue though; I agree that most of these awards were bullshit :p
 

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Yahtzee, I totally feel for you when it comes to Super Mario Galaxy 2.
 

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Odegauger said:
Black Ops? Fucking really?
Eh think about it. These awards are NEVER how good a game was really. They take the top grossers of the selling charts. Then just plug them for free air time.

Take the MTV music awards. The entire equation of "Viewers choice" was request line requests and sales. So the most over hyped piece of crap tinnie boppers listen to, and the sick 12 year old girl requesting Justins Beaver (yeah not a mistype) can knock out a song that created world peace and ended hunger.

Why? Marketing. And when the money pit games/music/anything is in the lime light you care not for its real worth but what it can make you.

And if the sheep bahhhh Black ops, then every Black ops fan tunes into your show. If you put up Ultra indie game of win up, no one wants to watch.
 

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Dammit.

I should've known really, but the exact moment I saw Black Ops in that last award, I should've known not to go into the comments thread.

Yeah, BO is populist. So? Get the fuck over it. People enjoy it. People got more enjoyment out of it then other titles in the year.

I love it how Yahtzee complains about none of the games he had "fun" with are nominated for anything, yet clearly disregards the fact that most people probably found Black Ops the most fun this year.

And, this comments thread. It's just fucking great. Nothing substantiated, nothing uncommon. Just the usual "duh, CoD sucks, CoD can't be nominated because CoD sucks".

Kermi said:
I don't think you were hard enough on Black Ops, Yahtzee. It was not just bland and predictable. It was bad. In every way that matters, it underachieved and in some places was outright unreservedly, inexcusably poor.
Well, then, good thing this is a fact. Why don't you say how fucked the industry is and how little the standards are of those who enjoy it?

You don't have to, though. There's already a thread full of elitism and riding the high horse.
 

Twilight_guy

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Interesting to note the similarities between artistic and video game canon. Popular is detested in both. Funnily enough both sides are quiet antagonistic games for not being recognizes and art for being ask to recognize. Other then that, stop trying to rarify games into a one notion of fun, such linear judging aspect encourage myopic views blah blah soap box soap box. I really want to know what drives human to create arbitrary labels of best and then try to force those labels on the entire world, that's more interesting.

Edit: screw your "first" I'm 100th!!
 

geckoguy18

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anyone else notice how the technical innovation consisted of almost nothing but sequels? Doesn't that sort of imply, you know, the same shit but just expanding the story?
 

Autofaux

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The sales numbers of Call of Duty Black Ops can't be trumped by the next Modern Warface-by committee game. Having more than one company designing elements of the same game, is like getting different architects to design parts of the same house; they're not building a hotel, this is a game that, if nothing else, is cohesive.

The bubble will burst, and it'll burst sooner rather than later.

At any rate, I'm ready to ridicule the Call of Duty fanatics that go out and buy Modern Warfare 3 on day one.
 

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Cleril said:
FallenMessiah88 said:
Its things like this that really makes me wonder if a career in the games industry is the best choice for me...
Huh, then maybe it isn't. Pardon me for logic here, but if you base what the best career choice for you is based on a voting of what games are good....are you really choosing the career for yourself? I'd think you're choosing it to be recognized by others. I'm not trying to be a downer, just pointing out what I see.
Im choosing this career because, as long as I can remember, I've wanted to work with video games. I simply love video games, from old school platformers to modern shooter giants like Call Of Duty. But lately it seems to me like the industry is taking a turn for the worse. But to be fair, in relation to my previous post, it has more to do with me really really really disliking Activision, so perhaps i should have worded it differently.
 

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I'm just shocked/appalled that people still think BlackOps is 'the shit' enough to vote for it in an otherwise decent awards ceremony.
 

Rano

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"as hollow and vacant as the eyes of a child prostitute." wow, nice one. Geography is pointless in a world where we have GPS in everything and google maps. hell i could point out most places in Azeroth faster than i could find the capital of Spain
 

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bushwhacker2k said:
BarbaricGoose said:
Heavy Rain had plot holes? This is news to me.
Lol, sarcasm ftw.
Actually, it wasn't sarcasm. I thoroughly enjoyed the game and didn't remember any plot holes. Some were pointed out to me earlier in the thread, however.

Still really enjoyed the game, though. Plot holes and all.

Rano said:
Geography is pointless in a world where we have GPS in everything and google maps. hell i could point out most places in Azeroth faster than i could find the capital of Spain
This is so true it's scary...