Fans Protest Tera's Censorship

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Kargathia

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DVS BSTrD said:
If the European mainstream has such an aversion to blood, it's no wonder your women don't shave.

Okay show of hands: Who else thought this would be related to the dress-code?
Sadly my hopes of Tera's dress-code abandoning the creepy and face-palm worthy chainmail bikinis were instantly dashed.

Buretsu said:
According to their backstory, the Elin form a physical body around a fragment of their divine being. So it's really just a shell or construct.
And subsequently they picked scantily clad pre-pubescent girls with cat ears as their physical representation. Not creepy at all.
 

FallenMessiah88

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I completely agree. To hell with censorship! I have never played the game myself and I don't plan to, but it's a matter of principle.

As far as sexualization goes, I'm not against games having sexual content, but I still personally feel that things such as the age of consent should be taken into consideration. Therefore I think changing the Elin outfits was the right decision because as far as I understand, this was an internal decision.
 

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Neonsilver said:
However, in Europe, Tera was given a much lower 12+ rating by PEGI.
I don't really understand this, the game already got a low rating and they still want to cut the blood out?

I understand it if they would do this to get a lower rating.
It really doesn't make a lot of sense. Best explanation I can come up with is that PEGI ratings can be given under the condition that the developer changes X, i.e. "you'll get a PEGI12 for your game if you remove the blood, otherwise it's gonna be PEGI15".
Also, I doubt the Germans are at fault here (at least this time :p), as a) we don't even use the PEGI ratings, we have our own USK ratings, and b) similar games got comparable ratings without cutting anything. WoW, SW:TOR and Warhammer Online for example all got a USK12 rating while being completely unaltered in the level of violence.
 

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WMDogma said:
"We, as members of the Tera community, feel that this time you have crossed the line," reads the petition's statement, which is titled "Bring Blood Back to Tera EU!". "The community was patient for a very, very long time with your incompetence and childish games. You have played with the boundries [sic] of how much the community can take. Count in all the false information that was given to us."
This statement points to the heart of what I think is wrong with the game community: a total lack of maturity and self-control. If the situation is so bad and intolerable, just stop buying it. It's really that simple, in my opinion. Making this kind of fuss every time a game company consistently does something that is perceived as customer-hostile (taking away game features, over-charging for games, rip-off DLC, online access codes, special accounts, DRM, excessively buggy games, poor quality games, improper or illogical content, etc.), yet gamers continue buying into the games from them just makes the community look like whiny, petulant electronic-crack/cocaine junkies. And almost every time, the only thing it takes to quiet the fervor is to show the next, upcoming shallow, hyper-violent graphics and boobs festival of a game, just like shoving a pacifier in a baby's mouth.

If you have a complaint, at least make a reasoned, civil argument regarding that complaint, rather than launching into a childish tirade. It is quite possible to show anger and displeasure with a company's actions in a manner that makes clear your intolerance for the continuation of the situation without being a screaming kid about it (most people don't take a screaming kid seriously).

Just my opinion. Feel free to flame.
 

Grey Day for Elcia

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This is what you're upset about?

THIS?

Have you not seen the game?



How about a little less "Zomg, I want my bloody deaths," and a little more "Why are there half naked children running around in their panties?"
 

Ishigami

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I find the reaction of the over seas crowd entertaining.
Going ape shit at the sight of nipples yet laughing at the censorship of blood.

That is classic!

Btw. the Elin have been censored already. They now wear hot pants and shirts instead of slips and showing their bellybuttons.
This change of course was done in favour of the US crowd.
Because seeing a 12 year old girl in a swimsuit makes you automatically paedophile... it works that way!

All in all I have to say my fellow Europeans overact. The change is minor and does not impact gameplay at all.
The only regrettable thing in this affair is the lack of proper community information. I think the outcry could have been avoided or reduced if the players would have been informed about the changes and the reasons why this has to be changed before the update hits the server.
 

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Ishigami said:
I find the reaction of the over seas crowd entertaining.
Going ape shit at the sight of nipples yet laughing at the censorship of blood.

That is classic!

Btw. the Elin have been censored already. They now wear hot pants and shirts instead of slips and showing their bellybuttons.
This change of course was done in favour of the US crowd.
Because seeing a 12 year old girl in a swimsuit makes you automatically paedophile... it works that way!

All in all I have to say my fellow Europeans overact. The change is minor and does not impact gameplay at all.
The only regrettable thing in this affair is the lack of proper community information. I think the outcry could have been avoided or reduced if the players would have been informed about the changes and the reasons why this has to be changed before the update hits the server.
12? Try 7. More importantly, why would anyone want to see a child of no more than 7 in their panties? Pretend violence is cathartic. Fantasy is escapist. I get that. But barely clothed children? I don't even want to know why someone would want that or what it is they are getting out of it.

Every time this issue comes up, I find a whole new batch of people I want the government to track and keep a close eye on.

/shudder
 

MC K-Mac

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FYI to "Tera community": People take you more seriously when you're able to write a paragraph without making spelling and grammar mistakes.

Entitled immature assholes demanding things from a corporation while simultaneously buying their product makes me giggle.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
If the European mainstream has such an aversion to blood, it's no wonder your women don't shave.

Okay show of hands: Who else thought this would be related to the dress-code?
*raises hand*

I didn't think blood was going to be an issue here. Seriously.
 

Ishigami

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Why don't you ask that the guys who produce this:



And you complain about some unrealistic polygons and pixels that resemble some kind of girl...


I don't need 3 years (while we are at why not push this beyond ridiculous?) old in underwear for my gaming enjoyment.
For gods sake I argue that companies should drop the ?chain-mail-bikini? stereotype altogether.
But why should they? Look some of the most downloaded Skyrim Mods up...

The point is it does not automatically makes players paedophiles. Sex is normal or should be normal, violence is not or should not be considered normal.
 

draythefingerless

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Ragnellus said:
draythefingerless said:
i would not censor anything. the dressing in tera is very good looking, my only complaint is that the males should share of the same greco-roman style approach to clothing. that is, barely any at all. no that is not sexual, i just find the dress code beautiful, if a bit on the erotic.
I respectfully disagree. From what I've seen, eroticism seems to be the ENTIRE POINT of the female dress code in TERA - The worst thing males get is an unbuttoned shirt, while almost everything the demon females wear looks like an Ivy cosplay.

Also, the elfin are disgusting - sexualizing little girls is NEVER okay.
The defence "Oh, but they're not human! That makes it okay!" doesn't work either, as ideas are never made in a vacuum - the Elfin are SUPPOSED to look like prepubescent girls.
wether or not that was the intent, the dressing in TERA is beautiful, i meant I, MYSELF, dont find it erotic. as for the elin...i can see why some people would get all creeped out imagining pedophiles and such, but i dont share of that thought, specially if you realize how this style of character is entrenched in asian culture. the bikini thongs are too much thou. the only thing i agree is that males dont share of the same treatment, wich is what you get from asian mysoginistic societies...oh well.
 

Moffman

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Not a big enough change to stop me playing tbh :p... I get to control a little pot bellied panda beaver thing, what's not to like? All though loads of blood would have made me laugh even more as the pot bellied panda beaver carves up his enemies :p
 

AngelOfBlueRoses

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And here I thought the censorship would be about those pedo-bait little animal girls, but the TERA fans seem to be okay with that. Silly me.
 

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Slayer_2 said:
DVS BSTrD said:
If the European mainstream has such an aversion to blood, it's no wonder your women don't save.

Okay show of hands: Who else thought this would be related to the dress-code?
Seconded. Although, Europe is more sane than the US. If you're gonna get up in arms about a game containing mature content, why the fuck would you go after nudity and sex when the game contains tons of violence? See: GTA or Mass Effect "scandals".
True on the Mass effect part though GTA has gotten more heat for its violence than its sexual content in the past over in the US.
 
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Ishigami said:
Why don't you ask that the guys who produce this:


And you complain about some unrealistic polygons and pixels that resemble some kind of girl...


I don't need 3 years (while we are at why not push this beyond ridiculous?) old in underwear for my gaming enjoyment.
For gods sake I argue that companies should drop the ?chain-mail-bikini? stereotype altogether.
But why should they? Look some of the most downloaded Skyrim Mods up...

The point is it does not automatically makes players paedophiles. Sex is normal or should be normal, violence is not or should not be considered normal.
deleted that pic for quote.. what the hell that's legal in america??
 

MPerce

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This thread is the perfect example of how North American and European audiences' priorities differ.

But yeah, the Elin have been censored, too. If you really want your blood and lolis, there are mods for that. Nobody's stopping you.
 

Naqel

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I'm not playing this anyway since it's subscription based... but I've got to know: dose Europe get the original korean Elin outfits, or the "censored" US ones?

Cause if the US ones, I totally get the outrage over the lack of blood.